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Celestra
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 Posted: 02/25/04 - 06:54 Post subject: Question for grammar nazi's
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'They were fundamentally and mutually inconsistent, and on occasion this problem became public, confusing those who were not privy to internal Provisional politics and Adams’s need for careful management.’
This is part of a quote I'm using in my paper...
Isn't Adams's wrong?
Shouldn't that be: 'Adams' need for careful management' ?
Without the extra s?
Is this a new trend? Or normal English? (or maybe just American English)?
It's bugging the hell out of me because it looks incorrect to me.
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khrath
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:07 Post subject:
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well are ya talking about a guy named adam or someones last name which is adams
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:09 Post subject:
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last name Adams
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:11 Post subject:
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If it's a guy named Adams, then Adams's is right.
You only use the ending apostrophe without the 's' if the word is plural.
For example, the cars' motors needed to be repaired. But the bus's motor did not.
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:13 Post subject:
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| Nuldaan wrote: | If it's a guy named Adams, then Adams's is right.
You only use the ending apostrophe without the 's' if the word is plural.
For example, the cars' motors needed to be repaired. But the bus's motor did not. |
Ahhh, it's different in Dutch. If we get the s's, we leave the second s off, and just do the '
Thx, it's still an eyesore to me, but at least it's a correct eyesore!
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:15 Post subject:
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Damn New Zealanders can't do anything right. 
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:20 Post subject:
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Haha 
Inside jokes are funny ;p
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Spink
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:28 Post subject:
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fyi it's nazis without a '
and on the other thing I think it's Adams' but am not sure.
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:29 Post subject:
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I think you're wrong on both counts Spink
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Spink
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:35 Post subject:
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| Celestra wrote: | | I think you're wrong on both counts Spink |
I have an image somewhere, let me go and find it. I agree that I am wrong on the second count, I wrote that post before anyone else had replied but forgot to hit submit for like 30 min :/
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Spink
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:37 Post subject:
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Here's hoping this is it since the edit button doesn't work...
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:51 Post subject:
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| Celestra wrote: | Haha
Inside jokes are funny ;p |
haha. I KNOW! It's like a secret message but it's out in the open! :p
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:52 Post subject:
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Is it the same for British English and American English?
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:55 Post subject:
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Not a clue, Cel. I would assume so. Most rules are the same I believe. Although they do tend to add a 'u' to words when they shouldn't be there. 
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Celestra
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 07:59 Post subject:
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| Nuldaan wrote: | | Not a clue, Cel. I would assume so. Most rules are the same I believe. Although they do tend to add a 'u' to words when they shouldn't be there. |
It's the other way around ;p
You Americans are forgetting the 'u' where they should be there.
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atarom
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 08:23 Post subject:
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LOL BTAF is teh win
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sinrakin
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 08:57 Post subject:
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I might still be wrong. From the "THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS WRITERS' GUIDE":
| Quote: | Possessives
Plural nouns not ending in s, add ’s: the alumni’s newsletter, the children’s playground.
Plural nouns ending in s, add only an apostrophe: the girls’ locker room, the students’ newspaper.
Nouns that are the same in singular and plural are treated as plurals – chassis, corps, deer.
Singular nouns not ending in s, add ’s: the book’s pages, the pen’s ink.
Singular common nouns ending in s, add ’s unless the next word begins with s: the witness’s chair, the witness’ seat.
If a singular proper noun ends in s, add an apostrophe: The University of Texas at Dallas’ campus.
Pronouns: Personal interrogative and relative pronouns have several forms for the possessive that do not involve an apostrophe: mine, ours, your, yours, his, hers, its, theirs, whose. If you are using an apostrophe with a pronoun, make sure that the meaning calls for a contraction: you’re, it’s, there’s, who’s. |
By the second last rule, since Adams is a proper noun ending in s, you just add an apostrophe. There seems to be a lot of dispute about the more obscure variants of these rules though.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 08:58 Post subject:
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First sentence was supposed to be "It might still be wrong", not "I might still be wrong".
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