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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 08:17    Post subject: Predictions? Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/06/21/suborbital.test/index.html
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 09:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

i predict the paul allen one crash and burns due to computer error because he uses windows. Laughing
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 12:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

I predict the wrath of Mothra
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 12:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans.

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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 12:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the biggest thing in Aviation since the Wright Brothers if you ask me. These people are going to be entering space without government funding. Think I read that it cost 20 million for the project? Amazing what it costs NASA to do their shit.

Truly amazing though, It's a sure bet that I will enter space one day as a tourist, and that is a really cool prospect.
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 12:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alerik wrote:
It is the biggest thing in Aviation since the Wright Brothers if you ask me. These people are going to be entering space without government funding. Think I read that it cost 20 million for the project? Amazing what it costs NASA to do their shit.

Truly amazing though, It's a sure bet that I will enter space one day as a tourist, and that is a really cool prospect.

They DID enter space.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040621/ap_on_sc/private_rocket_29

Yay!
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 12:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's incredible. It's a very exciting prospect.

I may be celebrating my 50th birthday in space Smile

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 13:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

AWESOMENESS 1000%!
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 14:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope to die in space, staring out the window into infinity as we run out of air.
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 18:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 mill, a little elbow grease and an America is in space again, minus government.

I'm not sure, but I don't think the combined might of europe has put a man in space yet.

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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 18:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
20 mill, a little elbow grease and an America is in space again, minus government.

I'm not sure, but I don't think the combined might of europe has put a man in space yet.

Rolling Eyes


Yeah.. the mere fact this was a privately funded venture already puts it leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else. Like you mentioned, no other government has managed to put any person in space, much less with the consistency with which the American space program can, and even far less on a privately funded scale that's opening up the market for civilian space travel.

I find this odd, somehow... I always imagined the Japanese to be the first producing civilian-class space travel.. I dunno why it just strikes me as odd that the Japanese might prefer to build the parts and supply the service rather than spearhead their own space programs.

Do you think they could rival the US if they really wanted to?

edit : please don't bother bringing Sputnik into this. Please don't go there.

-Nah-


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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 18:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweetness!!

"You can see the curvature of the Earth," he said. "You got a hell of a view from 60, 62 miles."
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 19:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
20 mill, a little elbow grease and an America is in space again, minus government.

I'm not sure, but I don't think the combined might of europe has put a man in space yet.

Rolling Eyes


Yeah.. the mere fact this was a privately funded venture already puts it leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else. Like you mentioned, no other government has managed to put any person in space, much less with the consistency with which the American space program can, and even far less on a privately funded scale that's opening up the market for civilian space travel.

I find this odd, somehow... I always imagined the Japanese to be the first producing civilian-class space travel.. I dunno why it just strikes me as odd that the Japanese might prefer to build the parts and supply the service rather than spearhead their own space programs.

Do you think they could rival the US if they really wanted to?

edit : please don't bother bringing Sputnik into this. Please don't go there.

-Nah-


They could I think, and while you're up there in space in a Japanese shuttle they'll make sure you have all the niftiest electronic gadgets and video games.

Really though I find this entire prospect very cool. I want to see space personally, and the fact that these guys did it on approx 20 million vs the billions that NASA costs is amazing. Yeah it's a low earth orbiting altitude, but I'm sure that it will be easy for them at this point to reach higher levels, longer flights, etc.

Now if they'd just figure out some sort of warp/hyperspace/jump engine that can travel insane amounts of space in a short amount of time, but that's a bit off still unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 19:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now if they'd just figure out some sort of warp/hyperspace/jump engine that can travel insane amounts of space in a short amount of time, but that's a bit off still unfortunately.


It's not a matter of figuring it out. It's all been figured out already.

It's about having the right materials and technology to compensate for it. For example Dr Chang-Diaz, 7 time shuttle pilot and Mr Smartypants has a design for a proton acceleration engine that would run on pennies a day and get us to Mars in a couple of weeks. The problem? No known metal or currently produced material can withstand the heat that's generated. Even now we can't work with plasma engines on earth because we can only control plasma with magnetic fields. This isn't practical or possible in space where a magnetic field can warp and bend.

The space elevator? Doable provided we can build the polymer chain cables for it in quantities bigger than a micron at a time.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 19:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Nictathan wrote:


Now if they'd just figure out some sort of warp/hyperspace/jump engine that can travel insane amounts of space in a short amount of time, but that's a bit off still unfortunately.


It's not a matter of figuring it out. It's all been figured out already.

It's about having the right materials and technology to compensate for it. For example Dr Chang-Diaz, 7 time shuttle pilot and Mr Smartypants has a design for a proton acceleration engine that would run on pennies a day and get us to Mars in a couple of weeks. The problem? No known metal or currently produced material can withstand the heat that's generated. Even now we can't work with plasma engines on earth because we can only control plasma with magnetic fields. This isn't practical or possible in space where a magnetic field can warp and bend.

The space elevator? Doable provided we can build the polymer chain cables for it in quantities bigger than a micron at a time.

-Nah-



damn nah got all scientific and shit....
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 19:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Nictathan wrote:


Now if they'd just figure out some sort of warp/hyperspace/jump engine that can travel insane amounts of space in a short amount of time, but that's a bit off still unfortunately.


It's not a matter of figuring it out. It's all been figured out already.

It's about having the right materials and technology to compensate for it. For example Dr Chang-Diaz, 7 time shuttle pilot and Mr Smartypants has a design for a proton acceleration engine that would run on pennies a day and get us to Mars in a couple of weeks. The problem? No known metal or currently produced material can withstand the heat that's generated. Even now we can't work with plasma engines on earth because we can only control plasma with magnetic fields. This isn't practical or possible in space where a magnetic field can warp and bend.

The space elevator? Doable provided we can build the polymer chain cables for it in quantities bigger than a micron at a time.

-Nah-


That's what I'm talking about Nah. I know the possibility is there, it's the technology to do it that is what needs to be figured out.
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

going into space would be a dream come true for me, and hopefully I will get to do it in my lifetime.
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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 20:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yabden wrote:
going into space would be a dream come true for me, and hopefully I will get to do it in my lifetime.


Soccer players don't have the "right stuff".

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PostPosted: 06/21/04 - 21:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a google for "first european in space" and I got this.

http://www.esa.int/export/esaCP/ESAOGOGBCLC_Life_0.html

It seems we took a guinea, Umberto Guidoni, up to cook on the space station.



I hopa he maka a good a gravy(sauce).

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