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Herbgotti
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Sweet, 4 more years for bush.
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Confused
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 16:28 Post subject:
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| Oogie wrote: | Naw doesn't bug me. 
He became president...he wasn't elected president. It's an important difference although one I don't expect someone of your inferior intelligence and blind ignorance could comprehend. It's ok though, there is hope. If you have children, one of their future descendants might have evolved your bloodline to the point of being able to comprehend such things.
Keep hope alive! |
I can't believe after hundreds of recounts that indicated Bush won in EVERY SINGLE legal recount that people still think like this.
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 16:31 Post subject:
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| Oogie wrote: | Naw doesn't bug me.
He became president...he wasn't elected president. It's an important difference although one I don't expect someone of your inferior intelligence and blind ignorance could comprehend. It's ok though, there is hope. If you have children, one of their future descendants might have evolved your bloodline to the point of being able to comprehend such things.
Keep hope alive! |
What color is the sky in your world?
Idiot.
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Oogie
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 16:52 Post subject:
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Dumbasses. Of course on recounts they're going to say everything was legit.
FOX news had went and proclaimed Bush the winner in Florida before the original count WAS EVEN DONE. Get the media to pull a stunt like that and you've already won over the majority of public opinion.
Also if you remember (which you probably don't because you most likely never read the paper and didn't know in the first place), 6 days after the election, the Democrats called for a recount and Katherine Harris DENIED them. Any recounts you speak of were well after the fact and easily manipulated to keep things 'consistent'.
Also, the US Supreme Court ordered a HALT on the recount on December 9 of that year.
Anywho, back to some facts which you people seem to be sorely lacking.
So you have Katherine Harris who was both George W. Bush's presidential campaign cochairwoman and the Florida secretary of state in charge of elections.
I really hope none of you need help to see the problem inherent in that.
Katherine Harris goes and pays $4 million to Database Technologies (with the blessing of Governor Jeb Bush) to go through Florida's voter rolls and remove anyone "suspected" of being a former felon.
The law states that ex-felons cannot vote in Florida. That means 31 percent of all black men in Florida are prohibited from voting because they have a felony on their record. Harris and Bush knew that removing the names of ex-felons from the voter rolls would keep thousands of black citizens (who are historically Democratic voters) out of the voting booth.
Also, Bush, Harris, and company not only removed thousands of black felons from the rolls, they also removed thousands of black citizens who had never committed a crime in their lives -- along with thousands of eligible voters who had committed only misdemeanors, because Harris's office told Database Technologies (which has Republican ties) to be very lenient in their scrutiny of names by also rendering people with similar names of convicted felons ineligible.
So tell me, if all of these are easily researchable facts, how can they be wrong?
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Confused
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 17:00 Post subject:
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| Oogie wrote: | Dumbasses. Of course on recounts they're going to say everything was legit.
FOX news had went and proclaimed Bush the winner in Florida before the original count WAS EVEN DONE. Get the media to pull a stunt like that and you've already won over the majority of public opinion.
Also if you remember (which you probably don't because you most likely never read the paper and didn't know in the first place), 6 days after the election, the Democrats called for a recount and Katherine Harris DENIED them. Any recounts you speak of were well after the fact and easily manipulated to keep things 'consistent'.
Also, the US Supreme Court ordered a HALT on the recount on December 9 of that year.
Anywho, back to some facts which you people seem to be sorely lacking.
So you have Katherine Harris who was both George W. Bush's presidential campaign cochairwoman and the Florida secretary of state in charge of elections.
I really hope none of you need help to see the problem inherent in that.
Katherine Harris goes and pays $4 million to Database Technologies (with the blessing of Governor Jeb Bush) to go through Florida's voter rolls and remove anyone "suspected" of being a former felon.
The law states that ex-felons cannot vote in Florida. That means 31 percent of all black men in Florida are prohibited from voting because they have a felony on their record. Harris and Bush knew that removing the names of ex-felons from the voter rolls would keep thousands of black citizens (who are historically Democratic voters) out of the voting booth.
Also, Bush, Harris, and company not only removed thousands of black felons from the rolls, they also removed thousands of black citizens who had never committed a crime in their lives -- along with thousands of eligible voters who had committed only misdemeanors, because Harris's office told Database Technologies (which has Republican ties) to be very lenient in their scrutiny of names by also rendering people with similar names of convicted felons ineligible.
So tell me, if all of these are easily researchable facts, how can they be wrong? |
It's very simple, but apparently not simple enough for you. The Democrats demanded ILLEGAL RECOUNTS. The 100% democratically appointed florida court decided it would redefine state law to get Gore into office. Katherine Harris said rightfully said no. Then the supreme court had to step in to prevent the florida court from illegally changing the law. And FYI, fox news wasn't the only station that proclaimed Bush the winner. So did ABC. Of course they also proclaimed Gore the winner...then Bush...then Gore. Moron.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 17:01 Post subject:
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| Oogie wrote: | Dumbasses. Of course on recounts they're going to say everything was legit.
FOX news had went and proclaimed Bush the winner in Florida before the original count WAS EVEN DONE. Get the media to pull a stunt like that and you've already won over the majority of public opinion.
Also if you remember (which you probably don't because you most likely never read the paper and didn't know in the first place), 6 days after the election, the Democrats called for a recount and Katherine Harris DENIED them. Any recounts you speak of were well after the fact and easily manipulated to keep things 'consistent'.
Also, the US Supreme Court ordered a HALT on the recount on December 9 of that year.
Anywho, back to some facts which you people seem to be sorely lacking.
So you have Katherine Harris who was both George W. Bush's presidential campaign cochairwoman and the Florida secretary of state in charge of elections.
I really hope none of you need help to see the problem inherent in that.
Katherine Harris goes and pays $4 million to Database Technologies (with the blessing of Governor Jeb Bush) to go through Florida's voter rolls and remove anyone "suspected" of being a former felon.
The law states that ex-felons cannot vote in Florida. That means 31 percent of all black men in Florida are prohibited from voting because they have a felony on their record. Harris and Bush knew that removing the names of ex-felons from the voter rolls would keep thousands of black citizens (who are historically Democratic voters) out of the voting booth.
Also, Bush, Harris, and company not only removed thousands of black felons from the rolls, they also removed thousands of black citizens who had never committed a crime in their lives -- along with thousands of eligible voters who had committed only misdemeanors, because Harris's office told Database Technologies (which has Republican ties) to be very lenient in their scrutiny of names by also rendering people with similar names of convicted felons ineligible.
So tell me, if all of these are easily researchable facts, how can they be wrong? |
so due to massive voter fraud on the democratic side people who were not suposed to be able to vote did not have their votes counted.. and then you go on about other crap that has no proof, pls research the definition of fact for me because it doesnt me google search for conspiracy theory articles containing some facts but also much opinion and conjecture. The media has called elections wrong in the past and they dont just change it for convenience later on to make themselves right.
But I doubt any of this makes sense to you because if katherine harris had told them to go through and remove people who were dead you would be up in arms about how most of the dead voters were democrats and she was out to s***w you over.
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 17:15 Post subject:
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| Oogie wrote: | Dumbasses. Of course on recounts they're going to say everything was legit.
FOX news had went and proclaimed Bush the winner in Florida before the original count WAS EVEN DONE. Get the media to pull a stunt like that and you've already won over the majority of public opinion.
Also if you remember (which you probably don't because you most likely never read the paper and didn't know in the first place), 6 days after the election, the Democrats called for a recount and Katherine Harris DENIED them. Any recounts you speak of were well after the fact and easily manipulated to keep things 'consistent'.
Also, the US Supreme Court ordered a HALT on the recount on December 9 of that year.
Anywho, back to some facts which you people seem to be sorely lacking.
So you have Katherine Harris who was both George W. Bush's presidential campaign cochairwoman and the Florida secretary of state in charge of elections.
I really hope none of you need help to see the problem inherent in that.
Katherine Harris goes and pays $4 million to Database Technologies (with the blessing of Governor Jeb Bush) to go through Florida's voter rolls and remove anyone "suspected" of being a former felon.
The law states that ex-felons cannot vote in Florida. That means 31 percent of all black men in Florida are prohibited from voting because they have a felony on their record. Harris and Bush knew that removing the names of ex-felons from the voter rolls would keep thousands of black citizens (who are historically Democratic voters) out of the voting booth.
Also, Bush, Harris, and company not only removed thousands of black felons from the rolls, they also removed thousands of black citizens who had never committed a crime in their lives -- along with thousands of eligible voters who had committed only misdemeanors, because Harris's office told Database Technologies (which has Republican ties) to be very lenient in their scrutiny of names by also rendering people with similar names of convicted felons ineligible.
So tell me, if all of these are easily researchable facts, how can they be wrong? |
I didn't even read this.
I just hit the quote button:)
You idiot.
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Syke
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 18:37 Post subject:
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ahhh the idiot remark....never gets old.
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Kin
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 19:11 Post subject:
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i'm aware of how our presidents are elected. The electoral college is a dated idea that needs to get the heave ho. Why should the vote of someone in wyoming count more than someone in california? Answer me that
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Confused
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 19:18 Post subject:
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| Kin wrote: | | i'm aware of how our presidents are elected. The electoral college is a dated idea that needs to get the heave ho. Why should the vote of someone in wyoming count more than someone in california? Answer me that |
Because we live in a Republic. States elect the President, not the people. If you want to change the electoral college, pass an amendment. Of course your leftist judges will more than likely decide that the elctoral college as spelled out in the constitution is unconstitutional soon.
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 19:24 Post subject:
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| Kin wrote: | | i'm aware of how our presidents are elected. The electoral college is a dated idea that needs to get the heave ho. Why should the vote of someone in wyoming count more than someone in california? Answer me that |
because direct democracy in a large area does not work, a republic makes everyones voice heard and makes sure its equalized a bit so that wyoming doesnt feel left out. This isnt the United Empire of California, New York, Ohio, and Florida we live in you know. Cutting the voice from the people of the small states will lead to revolution and the break up of our country. Why? Because the guys in Wyoming dont have the same views as the guys in california and to tell them hey your votes dont count anymore cause there arent enough of you will make them say "hey f**k you, we are breaking away and making our own country where we can have proper representation" (coincidently the very thing this country was founded upon!) And after that you have 2 outcomes, 1 is the large states use military force via a civil war to force the small states to become conquered territories (because without any real reps thats what they would be) or 2 they let them break away and the USA we know is gone.
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Kin
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 19:38 Post subject:
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I just find it odd that wyoming has 151, 196 people per electoral vote and california has 551, 111 people per electoral vote. Based on the 1990 census.
so for every 1 wyoming voter, you need 3.6 californian voters to balance.
I will agree that we need to make sure the small states aren't steamrolled, though there has to be a better way to do it (not that I'm claiming to know what that way is)
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Tura
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 20:37 Post subject:
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A terrorist attack wont help Kerry.
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mkopec
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 21:10 Post subject:
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Bush will be just like his daddy, a one termer.
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Tura
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 21:13 Post subject:
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remember that you said that in 8 months.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/17/04 - 21:57 Post subject:
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| Kin wrote: | I just find it odd that wyoming has 151, 196 people per electoral vote and california has 551, 111 people per electoral vote. Based on the 1990 census.
so for every 1 wyoming voter, you need 3.6 californian voters to balance.
I will agree that we need to make sure the small states aren't steamrolled, though there has to be a better way to do it (not that I'm claiming to know what that way is) |
there isnt a better way, the electoral college balances it, california does get more attention though because it has more votes but because of the balancing wyoming is not steamrolled. Theres no better way to handle it, sometimes the system doesn't work perfectly, sometimes it doesnt work the way people would like, but its the best option out there. Other than lowering the ratio so wyoming is steamrolled I really dont see any way to handle it, even at 4 to 1 its not nearly as influential as california.
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Brael
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 04:25 Post subject:
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Kerry: I voted for the bill before I voted against it.
I feel sorry for anyone that listens to someone like that and would actually vote for them.
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anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit.
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| ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
Asswind!
GRAMMAR NOW!!!!!!
Teathc us, you know you wna two.
Idiot.
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| Kbarr wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
Asswind!
GRAMMAR NOW!!!!!!
Teathc us, you know you wna two.
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Your post had no relevance to mine. I know you're posting like a 12 year old girl who listens to brittany spears in an attempt to irritate me, but even drunk I can still see you for who you really are. In other words, your pathetic attempts remain futile. Please find a new hobby or get Paco to help you out with your free time.
See, my post actually related to the topic at hand whereas your post was a serious attempt to hurt my feelings. One day you will learn, and that's the day you will make over minimum wage and realize taking out your aggression on those you arrest was just misplaced anger you felt towards yourself for becoming a nothing in life. Go back to college, get a degree, make something of yourself. Then I'll allow you to flame me. Have a happy St. Patty's Day regardless because everyone deserves that at least
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 05:31 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
Asswind!
GRAMMAR NOW!!!!!!
Teathc us, you know you wna two.
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Your post had no relevance to mine. I know you're posting like a 12 year old girl who listens to brittany spears in an attempt to irritate me, but even drunk I can still see you for who you really are. In other words, your pathetic attempts remain futile. Please find a new hobby or get Paco to help you out with your free time.
See, my post actually related to the topic at hand whereas your post was a serious attempt to hurt my feelings. One day you will learn, and that's the day you will make over minimum wage and realize taking out your aggression on those you arrest was just misplaced anger you felt towards yourself for becoming a nothing in life. Go back to college, get a degree, make something of yourself. Then I'll allow you to flame me. Have a happy St. Patty's Day regardless because everyone deserves that at least |
ASSwind!
You mean you are beyond correcting my english? We have reached a new lv in our relationship?
I wonder, should I be happy or sad? I felt very special when you took the time out of your very busy day to share a little bit of your oh so advanced english skills with me.
Wait, your kiddn right?
Yeah...I know you are. You can't stop being the grammar police just like that. You need to correct, need, need, need.
Its part of who you are.
Idiot.
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 05:35 Post subject:
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Stop it you two!
It's making me sleepy. =/
Go do something useful! 
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 05:36 Post subject:
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its been a while since we had a p*****g contest.
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Actually, if there'll be anything on the terrorist front that can affect american elections, that would be Osama's capture or death. It strikes me as odd how he hasn't been dealt with yet, U.S. definitely has the resources to find him, the morale blow on terrorism will be tremendous when he'll be taken out of the picture, not to mention the benefits for the Bush administration. I expect there will be a huge and probably succesful campaign to find him the months just before the election. =)
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:09 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
He has every right. Freedom of speech, remember? Leftists are just scared that people might remember 9/11 in the election booth.
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:25 Post subject:
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| ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
He does have every right because he was the president at the time. He made the decision to go to war thankfully and bring these people to justice. The democrats would have used the 911 ad too if they were in office. The only difference is they would have never got on the ball with it and ultimately had no voting power behind it. All talk no action.
Now ill tell you who has no right:
Ok....remember the 3or4 911 victims who came foward basked in the liberal media claiming that Bush's campaign ads were wrong and that they were 'deeply offended by them'? If you think about it, it was all arranged within HOURS of Bush airing his 911-ad. Thats kinda quick dont you think?
Heres another interesting fact. That same lady who was protesting the ads is a LEADER of a hate-bush website. Another lady helps support funding for Kerry's campaign! I mean what the f**k people. You've got these people who lost family members and all they can do is foam at the mouths and rave about how much they hate Bush. Now those same ladies are hearing from people who also lost their family members and how sick they are to see these ladies use their deceased as a political tool. Thats why theres going to be no competition here. American's will open up their eyes soon enough and see that Kerry's campaign is driven by nothing but hate. Thats all we hear about anymore. "Remember Florida!!" "Anyone but Bush!!" "Dont let Bush murder our soldiers!"
I dont see why this is even an election.
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Celestra
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | ashwynd wrote: | | anyone who uses 9/11 to further their campaign can blow me. If it affected you in any way and you still vote for this tool of a president, you're just another hypocrite. Have you seen those 9/11 commercials? He really has no right to pull that shit. |
He has every right. Freedom of speech, remember? Leftists are just scared that people might remember 9/11 in the election booth. |
Ya I don't get that either.
The purpose of election campaigns is showing what you're all about. Bush's response to 9/11 is what he is all about the last 4 years. It's just that simple.
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Tura
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My question is, why is Kerry talking to foreign leaders ?
His answer is: Its none of our business.
Just watch: The next few weeks the media will slowly start to pressure him about it. And he will be devoured by his own hyenas 
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:41 Post subject:
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Prediction:
Unless an economic miracle occurs, Osama gets captured or Kerry doesn't pick someone from the South as his running mate, yet another Bush incumbent most assuredly will get kicked out of office once again. This time however, the American public will learn from their mistakes and will not put another Bush in the White House. Poor, poor Jeb. =/. On a happy note, it will be reported that Bush sycophants such as WhereNws and Kbarr will immediately shoot themselves in the face after Kerry is inaugurated. Being pro-gun has it's advantages ya know.
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:46 Post subject:
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| KapnKimchi wrote: | Prediction:
Unless an economic miracle occurs, Osama gets captured or Kerry doesn't pick someone from the South as his running mate, yet another Bush incumbent most assuredly will get kicked out of office once again. This time however, the American public will learn from their mistakes and will not put another Bush in the White House. Poor, poor Jeb. =/. On a happy note, it will be reported that Bush sycophants such as WhereNws and Kbarr will immediately shoot themselves in the face after Kerry is inaugurated. Being pro-gun has it's advantages ya know.
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Economic miracle? lol. Pay attention to the news, d*****s. A survey last week showed that hiring this spring will be at a pace not matched for close to 4 years.
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