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Aviger
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 Posted: 11/01/05 - 20:26 Post subject: Occulis, and other smart Wow people, char question.
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Friend of mine is playing Human Paladin and on and off a G-nome mage.
around lvl 20's
what you guys think would be best character to pair either of those with , i'm debating either a priest or a druid.
Would be leveling up togheter and sometimes solo.
I figured a good druid can heal about as good as a cleric and put out some nice damage..
But i never really played either class much so need input input!
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Gethy
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Posted: 11/01/05 - 20:31 Post subject:
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Paladin/Warrior is good for PVE. Paladin/Rogue and Paladin/Hunter rule for PVP. That is if they know how to play well together.
If they're in a PVE server, just go Paladin/Warrior. It's easy, way too easy. The Paladin could be a slack-jawed moron and still succeed so long as he knew what Holy Light did.
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/01/05 - 20:36 Post subject:
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True on the warrior thing.
But i've played a warrior/hunter/rogue and i'm quite bored.
I've not played a spellcaster other then a mage myself so i would really like to do either a priest / druid.
Kinda incling to the druid since it's a bit more offensive and i played a cleric to tears in EQ, but if you guys have a really good reason for going priest i just might 
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Gethy
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Posted: 11/01/05 - 21:03 Post subject:
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CHAIN MOONFIRE IS HOT SHIT DPS
always remember that
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/02/05 - 14:57 Post subject:
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Druid is a great choice. In fact, I think if I weren't playing my warlock I'd be on a druid full-time. Right now, my pets = my versatility. I work best against mages when I have the felhunter out, best against rogues when I have the succubus (rogue ignores pet - spends all his time stopping me from casting - i eat potions and use my wand - pet kills him).
Good advantages of druid:
* If you're bored of tanking, go cat form. 
* You can port to Moonglade (or whatever) at level 10 for repairs, armor, training and an Air Bus.
* Crazy survivability. If you die as a druid, I hope there were at least 4 reds beating on you.
* Not too many of them. Unlike rogues taking up 50% of each server, druids are few in number and can also stealth!
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 11/02/05 - 21:08 Post subject:
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Yeah, for the mage, Druid is the way to go. It's pretty good for the pally as well. You won't be sad with that choice.
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/02/05 - 21:12 Post subject:
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thanks guys, i was leaning towards druid to but you made some good points that make it a done deal )
MOONKIN HERE I COME 
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 11/02/05 - 21:26 Post subject:
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nonono, f**k moonkin. Go with something less gay.
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Gethy
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 01:28 Post subject:
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Druid or Paladin--you can't go wrong.
Personally, I like Paladins? Why? Because nine out of ten people play them to do damage, the rest of them realize their support role.
Fact is, a druid would be a lot more fun to play. Period. No question in my mind. You can take up different roles and be somewhat decent at them, even if you're not specced in Feral.
The key to both classes is to never, ever forget that you have the ability to heal. A failure of a Druid is one that stays in a form and watches someone die; a failure of a Paladin is one that begins or continues to melee while he could take the role of a healer. Just because you can be doing damage doesn't mean you should be doing damage. A rogue that lives ten seconds longer will probably do more damage than you do in twenty (or even more).
I like both classes, but I prefer the Paladin. Cleanse and Blessing of Freedom can make some classes weep, especially when you're coupled with a warrior or a rogue. I like throwing low-mana, quick buffs on people in BGs. I like shielding and having 12 seconds to freely heal whom I choose without interruption.
But druids rule, too. I can't go on about them as much as I could paladins (I only scratched the surface of paladins) but I like a well-played druid more than most other classes.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 02:03 Post subject:
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On a side note I got a bonereaver's edge a few days ago I'll probably never use aside from the occasional duel 1h/Shield and Holy/Prot is the way to go. Throwing freedoms on tanks, healing, stunning healers, BoPing casters (with that ever so lovely 2 minute BoP Talent), divining and throwing heals on everyone but yourself (remember you're immune during divine shield kids, wait till the last few seconds to heal yourself) Smacking casters in the face with Seal of Justice to f**k their casting up if you have a moment to melee, you're the cleric bard of Warcraft that brings the group together letting them f**k shit up.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 05:16 Post subject:
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Before you port to Moonglade as a druid, be aware that it is literally a 10 minute flight path back to Thunder Bluff (for horde).
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 07:15 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Before you port to Moonglade as a druid, be aware that it is literally a 10 minute flight path back to Thunder Bluff (for horde). |
yeah, luckily i'm playing alliance
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 11:43 Post subject:
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But that's 10 minutes you're immune to level 60's raping you! At least until they find a way to hax and shoot you off the Air Bus.
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 11:45 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | | But that's 10 minutes you're immune to level 60's raping you! At least until they find a way to hax and shoot you off the Air Bus. |
I play on a PVE server..i hate PVP and frankly with waiting 2-3 hours for BG's when my friends coerced me into going totally f****d my enjoyment of it even if there was any
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 12:45 Post subject:
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pve is for p*****s 
Also, moonkin is *slightly* less gay on pve servers. However you're still stupid if you get it!
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 13:10 Post subject:
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| Aviger wrote: | | Occulis wrote: | | But that's 10 minutes you're immune to level 60's raping you! At least until they find a way to hax and shoot you off the Air Bus. |
I play on a PVE server..i hate PVP and frankly with waiting 2-3 hours for BG's when my friends coerced me into going totally f****d my enjoyment of it even if there was any |
Battlegrounds are not PvP. Battlegrounds are 1 cloth bag full bag of red zerg in one hand smacking a cloth bag full of blue zerg. There's no catching anyone unaware or vulnerable, there are no opportune moments, there is only mass zerg.
PvP is chasing down a gnome 4 levels higher than you and killing him in front of his friends.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 15:01 Post subject:
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| Aviger wrote: | | Occulis wrote: | | But that's 10 minutes you're immune to level 60's raping you! At least until they find a way to hax and shoot you off the Air Bus. |
I play on a PVE server..i hate PVP and frankly with waiting 2-3 hours for BG's when my friends coerced me into going totally f****d my enjoyment of it even if there was any |
I've never been a huge PvP fan either, Aviger, but WoW has a good enough system that it was actually fun for me! I think it's the fact that you can't be sent annoying tells from the opposing faction that makes it great. You can just rape someone and they can't say anything about it!
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 15:14 Post subject:
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I agree. Getting messages like, "u no u f****n f****t ur dead i have friends in blacklist ur a fufkin DEAJI0 SDIPJ ASSHOEL{" is weird
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Kurel
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 16:46 Post subject:
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Druid + Paladin is going to be rather slow going, the same with Priest. I suggest playing a class that put outs a stupid amount of damage.
Warlock would be the best choice to pair with a Paladin or Mage because of their damage and versitality. Healthstones, Soulstones, Pets, Fear, the list goes on and on.
Of course the above advice doesn't apply if you're hellbent on playing either a Druid or Priest, but I can hope you have an open mind.
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Aviger
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 17:07 Post subject:
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| Kurel wrote: | Druid + Paladin is going to be rather slow going, the same with Priest. I suggest playing a class that put outs a stupid amount of damage.
Warlock would be the best choice to pair with a Paladin or Mage because of their damage and versitality. Healthstones, Soulstones, Pets, Fear, the list goes on and on.
Of course the above advice doesn't apply if you're hellbent on playing either a Druid or Priest, but I can hope you have an open mind. |
heh, i am hellbent on druid really.
I played a warlock to 60 on the US server so
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 18:09 Post subject:
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| Aviger wrote: | | Kurel wrote: | Druid + Paladin is going to be rather slow going, the same with Priest. I suggest playing a class that put outs a stupid amount of damage.
Warlock would be the best choice to pair with a Paladin or Mage because of their damage and versitality. Healthstones, Soulstones, Pets, Fear, the list goes on and on.
Of course the above advice doesn't apply if you're hellbent on playing either a Druid or Priest, but I can hope you have an open mind. |
heh, i am hellbent on druid really.
I played a warlock to 60 on the US server so |
Be aware that druid DPS is abyssmal. You won't just run up to someone and kill them. Druids win in patient PvP, and it can be frustrating.
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 18:33 Post subject:
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Na, they get closer than bows can shoot, and chain root you while they nuke/DoT you down. It's really really gay.
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halfbent
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 18:38 Post subject:
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The dead zone rocks. (Unless it's you on the receiving end.)
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Gethy
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 19:28 Post subject:
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| Xarpolis wrote: | | Na, they get closer than bows can shoot, and chain root you while they nuke/DoT you down. It's really really gay. |
It pays to make friends with someone who can dispell.
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Trebel
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 21:05 Post subject:
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The best combination I know of PvP and PvE is paladin/warrior. In PvP, the warrior owns everyone while the paladin heals him and can actually take damage. In PvE the paladin can melee decently and heal the warrior. I personally am a lvl 60 warrior w/ earthshaker, and my good friend IRL is a pally w/ full Lawbringers and Aurastone Hammer and whatnot, and we don't lose to anyone really 2 on 2... and have even taken up to 5 on 2.
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General-Lund
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Posted: 11/03/05 - 23:11 Post subject:
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| Trebel wrote: | | The best combination I know of PvP and PvE is paladin/warrior. In PvP, the warrior owns everyone while the paladin heals him and can actually take damage. In PvE the paladin can melee decently and heal the warrior. I personally am a lvl 60 warrior w/ earthshaker, and my good friend IRL is a pally w/ full Lawbringers and Aurastone Hammer and whatnot, and we don't lose to anyone really 2 on 2... and have even taken up to 5 on 2. |
Plus it's bad ass when a pally pops Blessing of Freedom or Blessing of Protection on a warrior. It is just sick and wrong!
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Trebel
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Posted: 11/04/05 - 01:48 Post subject:
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| General-Lund wrote: | | Trebel wrote: | | The best combination I know of PvP and PvE is paladin/warrior. In PvP, the warrior owns everyone while the paladin heals him and can actually take damage. In PvE the paladin can melee decently and heal the warrior. I personally am a lvl 60 warrior w/ earthshaker, and my good friend IRL is a pally w/ full Lawbringers and Aurastone Hammer and whatnot, and we don't lose to anyone really 2 on 2... and have even taken up to 5 on 2. |
Plus it's bad ass when a pally pops Blessing of Freedom or Blessing of Protection on a warrior. It is just sick and wrong! |
BoP owns when you are about to die, but it stops you from hitting back, and spells can still kill you, so its very situational. Freedom however is the own in PVP. It basically makes it so no one can get you off of their ass because fear is no issue w/ berserker rage. Its nice though when I am in a group of 3 warriors/2 pallies or 3/2 the other way, because then I get freedom, might, and light and the heals hit for more, and my DPS goes way up w/ might.
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Kin
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Posted: 11/04/05 - 09:23 Post subject:
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Druid damage outside of cat form = teh suck
Druid damage in cat form = teh win if you are feral spec
In feral gear, a druid can stay up close to a rogue in DPS (notice I didn't say BEAT the rogue, but they can come close).
My level 25 druid averages around 40 DPS in cat form. But it drops down to a sucktacular 19 in caster form.
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/04/05 - 11:54 Post subject:
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| Kin wrote: | Druid damage outside of cat form = teh suck
Druid damage in cat form = teh win if you are feral spec
In feral gear, a druid can stay up close to a rogue in DPS (notice I didn't say BEAT the rogue, but they can come close).
My level 25 druid averages around 40 DPS in cat form. But it drops down to a sucktacular 19 in caster form. |
Not trying to depress you too much, but a 14 rogue does 40DPS.
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Tura
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