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Abi
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 Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:31 Post subject: OMFG... I'm gagging here.. Kerry has no shame..
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The Lulu E — a white ferry decorated with red, white and blue bunting — lumbered across Boston's inner harbor, flanked by Coast Guard speed boats mounted with machine guns as it cruised past the FleetCenter convention site to the Charlestown Navy Yard.
Kerry snapped salutes and gave thumbs-up to a crowd of roaring supporters, as he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with his fellow crewmates at the ferry's rails. Bruce Springsteen's "No Surrender" blared from speakers as the ferry pulled into the dock.
"Bruce Springsteen has it right. No retreat. No surrender. We are taking this fight to the country, and we are going to win back our democracy and our future," Kerry said.
His running mate, John Edwards, headlined the third night of the convention with a speech that Kerry said would preview "a vision of how we're going to make this country stronger."
As his plane made its way to Boston, the Massachusetts senator told reporters, "Welcome home. Welcome to the Super Bowl." Pumping his fist, Kerry said he felt great. "Ready to go. Pumped!"
Minutes later, he bounded down the steps of his plane at Boston's Logan Airport, greeted by 13 veterans, some of whom had served with him aboard a naval swiftboat in Vietnam's Mekong Delta 35 years ago. The men hugged and slapped backs.
One of the greeters was Jim Rassmann, a Special Forces officer whose life Kerry saved a generation ago.
Wounded himself, Kerry plucked Rassmann from a river in Vietnam while under fire. Their emotional public reunion last winter set the stage for Kerry's upset victory in Iowa's caucuses two days later.
After swapping war stories with the old gang Wednesday, Kerry boarded the Lulu E and made the brief trip across the harbor, once a political symbol of its own. In 1988, then-Vice President George H.W. Bush visited to criticize the pollution — and the leadership of his presidential rival, Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis.
The Charlestown Navy Yard helped supply and maintain the nation's naval fleet from 1800 to 1974. It is now home to the USS Constitution, the oldest commissioned warship afloat in the world.
According to tradition, the ship, known as "Old Ironsides," earned its nickname by deflecting cannon balls off its hull during an 1812 battle with a British ship.
Kerry hopes to be as agile with Republican barbs, particularly the charge that he is not fit to be commander in chief. With every image and speech during the four-day convention, Kerry is trying to convince voters that he is a safe alternative to the wartime incumbent, President Bush.
A lineup of retired generals and admirals were to appear at the convention Wednesday night to promote Kerry's foreign policy credentials.
Retired Army Gen. John Shalikashvili, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President Clinton, was addressing delegates. He was to be introduced by retired Lt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy, the only woman ever to become a three-star general in the Army.
Ten of 12 retired generals and admirals who are publicly backing Kerry appear in a convention video, expressing their concern with the current state of the military.
Fred Short, a former crewmate, said he's honored to spread word of Kerry's wartime exploits.
"I want, I need, to get out and tell what he won't tell people, as to his unbelievable courage," Short said. "No one wants someone thumping his chest saying, 'I'm a hero.' And it will be a cold day in Hades when John Kerry does that."
LET IT BE KNOWN .. If Bush pulls a stunt like this at the RNC I will NOT vote for him....
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:36 Post subject:
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What part exactly did you find objectionable? And whatever it was, could it have come anywhere NEAR the embarassment of Bush's "landing" on the aircraft carrior in his flight suit costume during the "Mission Accomplished" debacle?
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Reebo
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:38 Post subject:
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Just to be fair the banner that said "Mission Accomplished" was not made by bush or told to be put up by anyone on the bush team it was done by the troops.
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:42 Post subject:
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What Part?
THE WHOLE DAMN THING .. give me a f*****g break... It's a shameless publicity stunt.. geared to pull on our heartstrings... and draw correlations to his time in Vietnam ...
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:45 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | What Part?
THE WHOLE DAMN THING .. give me a f*****g break... It's a shameless publicity stunt.. geared to pull on our heartstrings... and draw correlations to his time in Vietnam ... |
Well, OK, but isn't that what conventions are about? Do you remember some conventions that didn't try to maximize publicity and appeal to people's emotions and patriotism? I sure don't. Every political convention in history has been a shameless publicity stunt. What next, are you going to complain if he makes a speech that he's trying to attract to much attention?
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:49 Post subject:
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He can f*****g show up like any normal person ... He's JUST a man ... I mean give me a break .. machine guns mounted on the boat .. Yea .. Boston is a REAL war zone ... f*****g stupid...
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Maldek
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:50 Post subject:
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This thread is done, Sin wins
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:51 Post subject:
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| Quote: | Fred Short, a former crewmate, said he's honored to spread word of Kerry's wartime exploits.
"I want, I need, to get out and tell what he won't tell people, as to his unbelievable courage," Short said. "No one wants someone thumping his chest saying, 'I'm a hero.' And it will be a cold day in Hades when John Kerry does that." |
Ummm he's BEEN doing that since day one....
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Frax
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 14:58 Post subject:
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Reebo
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 15:00 Post subject:
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I hope Abi you are just a critical if the GOP does something similar at their convention. I do agree all that love love rar rar stuff getting old I dont care who is doing it but lets be fair both sides, hell all sides do it.
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 15:01 Post subject:
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You obviously missed the last sentence in my post Reeb's...
| Quote: | | LET IT BE KNOWN .. If Bush pulls a stunt like this at the RNC I will NOT vote for him.... |
I will even take a pic of my ballot (I vote absentee) and post it here for proof...
Nader will be getting my vote if they pull this shit...
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Reebo
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 15:12 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | You obviously missed the last sentence in my post Reeb's...
| Quote: | | LET IT BE KNOWN .. If Bush pulls a stunt like this at the RNC I will NOT vote for him.... |
I will even take a pic of my ballot (I vote absentee) and post it here for proof...
Nader will be getting my vote if they pull this shit... |
Ya I did Abi sorry.
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Frehya
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 16:35 Post subject:
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a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, so ...
*pom pom shake*
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 18:26 Post subject:
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| Frehya wrote: | a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, so ...
*pom pom shake* |
YAY 4 RHETORIC!!!
Frey.. I expect more from you.. this makes baby jesus cry 
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Frehya
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 18:29 Post subject:
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Good! baby jesus could use a good cry now and again.
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Frehya
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 18:32 Post subject:
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a white fairy decorated with red, white and blue bunting — lumbered across Boston's inner thigh flanked by Coast Guard speed freaks mounted with machine guns as they cruised past the FleetCenter convention site to the Charlestown Navy Yard.
I am starting to understand things better ...
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Abi
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Posted: 07/28/04 - 18:36 Post subject:
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OMG!!!!
ROFL
that .. was .. f*****g.. funny.. 
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 02:23 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | What Part?
THE WHOLE DAMN THING .. give me a f*****g break... It's a shameless publicity stunt.. geared to pull on our heartstrings... and draw correlations to his time in Vietnam ... |
Oh and Bush hasnt pulled the same shit?
Even if the sign wasnt there he still lands on a carrier in flight gear for the perfect photo ops.
At least Kerry saw action in the war, and as you guys hate to admit has multiple decorations for it.
Bush sat in Texas while his peers died in the Nam
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Reebo
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 10:19 Post subject:
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I think the real problem is that both sides won't see the full story. The truth is it was a photo opt but it was a thank you for the troops as well.
The troops were glad to see him, he was glad to be there, the party was glad for the photo opt. Every side does it.
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Obmar
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 12:28 Post subject:
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This doesn't suprise me
I fully expect this from both sides - the conventions are always over the top
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Desaitar
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 13:49 Post subject:
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quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass.
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Reebo
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:13 Post subject:
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| Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
Well I look less at if he is a "war hero" or not but more compare the two's military records.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:26 Post subject:
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| Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives?
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:26 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives? |
For that matter, how many does Bush have.
And seriously wtf is with the editing?
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:27 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives? |
For that matter, how many does Bush have.
And seriously wtf is with the editing? |
I meant to put a smiley after the "wtf" to show I didn't mean it in a bad way, so here it is: 
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:28 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives? |
For that matter, how many does Bush have.
And seriously wtf is with the editing? |
I meant to put a smiley after the "wtf" to show I didn't mean it in a bad way, so here it is: |
Actually a wink would be more appropriate 
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:28 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives? |
For that matter, how many does Bush have.
And seriously wtf is with the editing? |
I meant to put a smiley after the "wtf" to show I didn't mean it in a bad way, so here it is: |
Actually a wink would be more appropriate |
nah, the wink looks like I'm being flip, go back to the smile
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sinrakin
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 14:29 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | quit the crap about kerry, he f*****g put himself in for nominations and left after like 4 months, not even a full term. war hero my ass. |
How many guys do you have who are willing to testify in public that you saved their lives? |
For that matter, how many does Bush have.
And seriously wtf is with the editing? |
I meant to put a smiley after the "wtf" to show I didn't mean it in a bad way, so here it is: |
Actually a wink would be more appropriate |
Jesus!, the wink looks like I'm being flip, go back to the smile |
God damn it I didn't f*****g say Jesus!; I said "n" "a" "h".
Change it to "nope".
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Bait Masterson
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 19:41 Post subject:
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People say so and so was brave in war etc etc
From my experience int he military, they hand out medals for farting upwind. This is in peacetime, im sure anyone here who was int he military has a few pieces of cabbage to show off. Now in wartime I imagine that wopuld be magnified tenfold, you didnt fall asleep on guard duty? here is a medal.
Now im not takign away from the truly brave souls in wartime, but there are many who get medals for doing jack shit and thats the truth. Put it into perspective fellas.
Kerry was conscripted to go, he had no choice, he could only choose what branch he joined.
I asked my friend who was in vietnam and was in the navy.
Why did you join the navy when you went to vietnam? His answer? "Because I had the least chance of seeing combat being in the navy" . So kerry rolled some unlucky dice and ended up on a pt boat in the delta, he did what he had to do, it was bravery im sure there were thousands of men who would have done the same thing..
Now if Kerry had joined the military voluntarily and joined some groundpounders like the army or marines, it might be something to talk about, as it stands now its only a shining point to people who dont know any better.
Love,
Bait.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 07/29/04 - 19:45 Post subject:
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| Obmar wrote: | This doesn't suprise me
I fully expect this from both sides - the conventions are always over the top |
yep ! That's pretty much what it's all about.
-Nah-
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