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Squished
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Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: 04/26/08 - 13:59 Post subject: Never should have had increased the level gap
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I miss the old days where the highest lvl was 60. I think they should have of just kept adding new instances and new spells. Now a new patch is coming out its made me not want to play again. F Blizzard lol
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subumbral
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Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: 04/26/08 - 17:10 Post subject: Re: Never should have had increased the level gap
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| Squished wrote: | | I miss the old days where the highest lvl was 60. I think they should have of just kept adding new instances and new spells. Now a new patch is coming out its made me not want to play again. F Blizzard lol |
personally i didn't like the grind to 70, but it was pretty awesome hitting the trainer again every 2 levels.
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MisterNova
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Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: 04/26/08 - 17:29 Post subject:
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I didn't play pre 70, but people say I missed the best of WoW
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Squished
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Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: 04/26/08 - 20:00 Post subject: Yupp
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Well yeah you did it was more fun i think. everyone takes the game to serious now days, back at 60 everyone had fun during raids now its hard to find those guilds that cut up the whole time
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WoW4Rune
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Posted: 05/04/08 - 13:50 Post subject:
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I agree like everyone that played alot at 60, back when level max was 60 pvp was more defined mages had 3k and wars had 5k there was non of this every1 has 10k stuff and epics were a sign of skill and experience now days any1 can get a epic within 1 minute of being 70 its stupid how easy it is to get epics now days. back then everything took skill to win in pvps and some had a big advantage over others now some classes own all and some suck and it all about gear rather then how u use it.
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primalkido
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Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 14
Location: Texas
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Posted: 05/04/08 - 15:58 Post subject:
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I like post-70 WoW. Except for the dailies screwing up the in-game economy, the complete imbalance between classes, the utter lack of class definition, and the apparent gluttony of account hacking.
Hmm, ok, so yeah, pre-70 might have been a little better.
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sunshine37876
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Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 20
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Posted: 05/04/08 - 17:16 Post subject:
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/agree
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AgainstEvil
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Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 17
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Posted: 05/04/08 - 18:03 Post subject:
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Id have to disagree, the grind from 60-70 wasn't that bad.. and it was pretty easy if you where there when everyone was doing it.. people to group with/run instances with... was kind of like a race
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exrec
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Joined: 08 May 2008 Posts: 15
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Posted: 05/08/08 - 18:25 Post subject:
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80 will be a b***h. Think about how much exp each level will be!
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mahepulk
30-Day suspension. Rules Violation.

Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: 05/09/08 - 12:48 Post subject:
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Albedo
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Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 12
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Posted: 05/09/08 - 18:10 Post subject:
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The 70 cap isn't bad. I played when 60-cap was in existance, and it was all good.. and i still play... and everything's still all good. Not much of a difference in my opinion
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jackslack
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Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 12
Location: Ontario
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Posted: 05/10/08 - 10:39 Post subject:
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i played at 60 for about a year and was really looking forward to the grind to 70, wasnt too bad imo. what blizz should stop doing is offering t6 equivalent gear through badges. i miss the old days when getting an epic was awesome. now its "meh, another epic for my collection"
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Rav
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Joined: 10 May 2008 Posts: 127
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: 05/10/08 - 11:50 Post subject:
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If people started becoming more powerful with new T4-T6 at level 60 people would have became way too overpowered and completely dominate battlegrounds. To be honest, I'm glad they didn't make anything above Naxxramas, but I'd have liked it to stay how it was after Naxxramas was added for a few years. I never got past Molten Core.
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Killhappy
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Joined: 10 May 2008 Posts: 12
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Posted: 05/11/08 - 09:37 Post subject:
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i deffinitely like wow better pre bc the game lost alot when expac came
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Rav
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Posted: 05/11/08 - 13:36 Post subject:
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The game lost alot when BC came out, yeah. The ranks system is missed by thousands of people, including me. An epic was hard to get, unless you farm MC BWL AQ40 and Naxx every week.
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poppycock
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Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: 05/11/08 - 15:01 Post subject:
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If the level cap stayed at 60, people would have grown tired of the game even faster than they are now. Leveling to 70 gave people something new to do, instead of just "new instances and new gear."
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Rav
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Posted: 05/14/08 - 04:38 Post subject:
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What I hated was the fact when the Burning Crusade came out in the first place, it was hard to get epics. I couldn't ever get good enough groups to get my Karazhan attunement done, and neither could I be able to get into a decent arena team (at the time, S1 was from arenas) It was quite hard for people to get epics, since Karazhan was new, and no one knew what to do.
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thedoktorisin
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Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 13
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Posted: 05/14/08 - 09:22 Post subject:
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Rav, I liked that aspect, it basically leveled the playing field so there wasn't a huge gear and experience gap between the person who just started and the seasoned raider. Sure, the raider had more experience of what to do in certain situations, but it was like a huge equalizer, where anyone could go join the best guild on the server, given that they were good enough. Now, it's if you're good enough and have the best gear there is to offer, which you can't get unless you're in that guild. Catch 22?
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Xx_muzzy_xX
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Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 55
Location: Connecticut
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Posted: 05/14/08 - 09:42 Post subject:
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Ugh I agree the grind to 70 was painful, I dont dare to imagine the grind to 80 =/
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Pert
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Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 37
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Posted: 05/14/08 - 11:26 Post subject:
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I think you're all looking at pre-BC WoW through rose-tinted glasses.
First of all, fun raids? Maybe for you, but everyone I knew called our weekly MC raids Molten Bore for a reason. It was long, it was tedious, and it was balanced around a raid of 40 people. Know how hard it is to find 40 competent people?
Not to mention how poorly tuned the place was. In order to really clean the place out you needed to amass sets of otherwise worthless fire resist gear. Furthermore, the only real way to do so was to run the instance. So you're running it to get the stupid Fiery Cores / Core Leather / etc just so you can make this gear that you'll never use outside of a raid, so you can maybe eventually kill Ragnaros.
As a Rogue, most of the gear was BAD, I'm talking back when Blizzard thought Str and Dodge were stats Rogues wanted on their gear. Not to mention there were a couple fights in MC where my entire job was to shoot my bow and bandage people. Oh man was THAT fun...
As for the level grind from 60-70, I've done it three times now, and I find it infinitely easier than 1-60. There's quests everywhere, TONS of them, with mostly useful gear as rewards. There's dungeons galore, with reputations attached which will help you once you're 70, it's almost perfect. My first two chars dinged 70 halfway through the BEM quests. My third 70 wasn't even done with Nagrand, but I ran a lot of instances to level with that one. For 1-60 I remember a lot of slow spots, the low 50s for example, and the high 20s.
On Rav's comment on the difficulty of obtaining epics when BC came out... give me a break! Were you playing when WoW came out? The first and only (for awhile) endgame boss was Onyxia. Molten Core didn't even come out until later, and then it was another wait for BWL after that. I will admit they eventually started getting it right with the new honor system and AQ20/ZG, but that took a long time. There's no way you can say that the Karazhan attunement was anywhere near the difficulty of the Onyxia attunement (actually, I've heard the Alliance Ony attunement was ezmode...). And getting 10 people for Kara is so much easier than it used to be to fill a 40-man MC/Ony raid. Heck, I do Kara PUGs 2-3 times a week now. Not to mention Blizzard's practically throwing epics at us. Epics from heroics, epics from badges, epics from raiding, epics from crafting, epics from PvP, epics from arena.
The game is much better than it used to be. I sometimes miss the old days too, I'll admit, the first few times in MC were by far the most epic experience I've ever had playing this game. I'd run it again just to see Rag rise from the middle of that lava pool and say "TOO SOON, EXECUTUS...", but I'd never want to give up all the things they added in BC and go back to being level 60.
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fwaokda
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Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: 05/14/08 - 16:15 Post subject:
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WoW was great before the expansion... TBC kinda ruined the game. It was too much and seemed too rushed. It gave someone too too much to do instead of being able to play casually because there was only so much to grind out for and play for. But even with its limits there was always instances to keep trying to "conquer". I miss the early days. It'll never be the same. Too many factions and instances that dont matter now. Not to mention the way the old lands are only useful for relvling and ah. wtf is up with that. They screwed the game up.
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Veritas
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Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 15
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 14:55 Post subject:
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Outdating past zones and past accomplishments is the stupidest thing blizzard has ever done. Burning Crusade was a horrible let down and I expect Wrath of the Lich King to be no better, hence why I am getting out now.
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MrOfTw
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Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 16:01 Post subject:
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I liked he journey from 60-70 and ill probably like it from 70-80
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thetick
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Posted: 05/15/08 - 16:58 Post subject:
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well i think that BC killed wow's hardcore raiding guilds, 25 man is a lot easier to fill than 40, and with the pvp weapons, people just get those for pve, the badge vendors for t6 equivalent items...i kno they are caturing to the majority of people that will never, or would never have been able to complete the BT attunement, heck maybe not even the SSC/TK attunement honestly
but /shrug, what can you do
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gatecrasher1
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Posted: 05/19/08 - 18:36 Post subject:
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I liked both PRE-bc and BC..
They're almost completely different games.
Have had great fun with both.
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zdrok
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Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: 05/22/08 - 13:55 Post subject:
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I miss the 40 man raids...
The expansion wasn't too bad... but they keep making it easier and easier.. no attunement needed for kara or anything anymore is completely worthless
I wish they would make there be a large step to get into the end game stuff.. other than just being 70 and having people willing to take you into kara as soon as you hit it.
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