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Zuldane
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 Posted: 03/19/04 - 09:36 Post subject: NES question
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Why was it that on games that saved data, you had to hold in the reset button while powering off the system. That never made any sense to me.
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Rennol
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 09:49 Post subject:
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i dunno but i think i broke the reset button doing that with zelda like every 5 minutes
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Jakanden
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 10:33 Post subject:
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It really wasn't necessary. I still play my NES from time to time and I never hold down reset. Havent lost any data yet =)
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eqchanter
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 10:49 Post subject:
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It happened to me on Final Fantasy. Lost my save. But only happened once. It is probably something to do with power feedback when you shut off the system. When the nes is running it dose not use the battery for memmory. If you shut off the power it just kills it and the battery might not have kicked on to save memmory. When you hold the reset button there is still some power but the battery is running also so when you turn off the power it already has the battery.
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Zuldane
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:00 Post subject:
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hah did you guys ever blow on the circuit board of a game trying to get it to work? Or slam it in the system? those were the tactics of me and my friends
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Renork
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:06 Post subject:
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Sadly, my NES stopped working. I took it apart to try and find a lose connection or anything but it all apeared to be ok. Figure its just shot.
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eqchanter
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:17 Post subject:
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| Zuldane wrote: | | hah did you guys ever blow on the circuit board of a game trying to get it to work? Or slam it in the system? those were the tactics of me and my friends |
Sometimes I would put it in the freezer for a few minutes. Or use an eraser on the contacts. Slamming only seemed to work on Zelda for me. Sometimes putting it in so the cartridge would just barely clip the back of the door on the way down.
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Cryz
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:21 Post subject:
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putting a game into the nintendo... pressing it all the way down... and sliding another game into it to hold the first game all the way down... after whistling into the game its theme song to blow on it... and tapping the nintendo logo 14 times...
always got our shit working.....
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Jakanden
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:34 Post subject:
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| Zuldane wrote: | | hah did you guys ever blow on the circuit board of a game trying to get it to work? Or slam it in the system? those were the tactics of me and my friends |
Ahh the good old days =)
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compusmack
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 11:58 Post subject: Re: NES question
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| Zuldane wrote: | | Why was it that on games that saved data, you had to hold in the reset button while powering off the system. That never made any sense to me. |
It has to do with the battery in the game pak.
Sudden power off can cause voltage spikes in the circuitry of the unit, and those games have very primitive save mechanisms basically involving keeping ram chips constantly powered so you dont lose data. Those types of save mechanisms have weak tolerances for voltage fluctuations and holding the reset button before power off helps prevent problems. Holding the reset button likely drains capacitance or reduces inductance in the system because its closing (or opening) a circuitry loop that usually remains open (or closed).
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themy
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 13:38 Post subject:
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i did the shoving the game down with another too haha, also had a cleaning kit for them but i blew on em too
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 13:43 Post subject:
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| eqchanter wrote: | | Zuldane wrote: | | hah did you guys ever blow on the circuit board of a game trying to get it to work? Or slam it in the system? those were the tactics of me and my friends |
Sometimes I would put it in the freezer for a few minutes. Or use an eraser on the contacts. Slamming only seemed to work on Zelda for me. Sometimes putting it in so the cartridge would just barely clip the back of the door on the way down. |
Haha, I did all of these things you guys listed, except for the freezer and eraser.
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atarom
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 17:45 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Sometimes putting it in so the cartridge would just barely clip the back of the door on the way down. |
that always worked for me.
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Yanbik
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 17:49 Post subject:
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ah the good ol days of nes
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