|
|
| Author |
Message |
Guest
|
 Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:12 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: | | Kin wrote: | anyone else notice this pattern?
A bush was elected, and we had a war and a recession. Then his son is elected, and we have a bigger war and a bigger recession.... lets hope bush Jr's daughters never become the president  |
You missed the boat. The recession started under Clinton and ended under Bush. We have greater economic prosperity right now than in the past 25 years. |
Lol republicans passing the buck.
Clinton brought us nothing but prosperity, regardless of right wing spin.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
 |
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:17 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Kin wrote: | anyone else notice this pattern?
A bush was elected, and we had a war and a recession. Then his son is elected, and we have a bigger war and a bigger recession.... lets hope bush Jr's daughters never become the president |
You missed the boat. The recession started under Clinton and ended under Bush. We have greater economic prosperity right now than in the past 25 years. |
Lol republicans passing the buck.
Clinton brought us nothing but prosperity, regardless of right wing spin. |
Uh...huh? The recession began in his term. It turned around under Bush's term. I don't understand what you're saying.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:20 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | Dude, you either completely misunderstood my point or you just don't want to listen to anything I said after I agreed (one time!)with what Jack Crow said, even though I probably don't agree with his motivations for saying it.
I will repeat again: I don't think Bush is stupid, but I do think sometimes he avoids situations that make him appear as such, since he IS a poor public speaker. He has said dumbsounding stuff in the past, there is no denying this. That doesn't mean I think he is dumb and everything he does is dumb, nor have I EVER said this. Smart people say dumb stuff all the time.
Frankly I'm offended that you throw me on the lot of 'closeminded' people from RP, because I'm simply not. I think you overreacted because I said one thing you didn't like or maybe because you misunderstood what I meant, but hey I'm not forcing ya to respond to me. /shrug. |
Seems to me a president should come across as poised, intelligent and eloquent.
Or at least not look stupid 
Youre not closed minded , Cel and neither am I.
The great thing about America is you can call b******t when you see it. |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Clinton could speak without looking like he was about to board the Shortbus, yes. |
So that's the best you've got? You don't like Bush so you try to claim he sounds retarded? You overlook the fact that Clinton bombed our economy and destroyed to dignity of the presidency and you complain that you don't like Bush's accent because you're a bigot? Not to mention you belong to a party that now officially endorses the assassination of cabinet officials?? Wow.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:26 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Kin wrote: | anyone else notice this pattern?
A bush was elected, and we had a war and a recession. Then his son is elected, and we have a bigger war and a bigger recession.... lets hope bush Jr's daughters never become the president |
You missed the boat. The recession started under Clinton and ended under Bush. We have greater economic prosperity right now than in the past 25 years. |
Lol republicans passing the buck.
Clinton brought us nothing but prosperity, regardless of right wing spin. |
Uh...huh? The recession began in his term. It turned around under Bush's term. I don't understand what you're saying. |
Like I said, right wind spin
Clinton balanced the budget, brought jobs and prosperity.
And he kept his head held high even though the right wing viscously attacked him, wasting precious resoucres and time over who sucked his d**k.
He was a good president.
Like it or not the Clinton administration was a success.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:27 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | Dude, you either completely misunderstood my point or you just don't want to listen to anything I said after I agreed (one time!)with what Jack Crow said, even though I probably don't agree with his motivations for saying it.
I will repeat again: I don't think Bush is stupid, but I do think sometimes he avoids situations that make him appear as such, since he IS a poor public speaker. He has said dumbsounding stuff in the past, there is no denying this. That doesn't mean I think he is dumb and everything he does is dumb, nor have I EVER said this. Smart people say dumb stuff all the time.
Frankly I'm offended that you throw me on the lot of 'closeminded' people from RP, because I'm simply not. I think you overreacted because I said one thing you didn't like or maybe because you misunderstood what I meant, but hey I'm not forcing ya to respond to me. /shrug. |
Seems to me a president should come across as poised, intelligent and eloquent.
Or at least not look stupid
Youre not closed minded , Cel and neither am I.
The great thing about America is you can call b******t when you see it. |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Clinton could speak without looking like he was about to board the Shortbus, yes. |
So that's the best you've got? You don't like Bush so you try to claim he sounds retarded? You overlook the fact that Clinton bombed our economy and destroyed to dignity of the presidency and you complain that you don't like Bush's accent because you're a bigot? Not to mention you belong to a party that now officially endorses the assassination of cabinet officials?? Wow. |
Rofl shut up dumb tool.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
themy
Sir Postalot
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1153
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON!
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Kin
Luke Warm
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 388
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:30 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Kin wrote: | anyone else notice this pattern?
A bush was elected, and we had a war and a recession. Then his son is elected, and we have a bigger war and a bigger recession.... lets hope bush Jr's daughters never become the president |
You missed the boat. The recession started under Clinton and ended under Bush. We have greater economic prosperity right now than in the past 25 years. |
Lol republicans passing the buck.
Clinton brought us nothing but prosperity, regardless of right wing spin. |
Uh...huh? The recession began in his term. It turned around under Bush's term. I don't understand what you're saying. |
nope, the slowdown in GDP growth didn't start untill 2000... which seems to me to be under bush's term...
check it out
http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/home/gdp.htm
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:41 Post subject:
|
|
|
| themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Dont even start the monday morning quartebacking on osama.
Bush was well in office when the attacks hit and that f****r had a heads up and chose to ignore it.
That shit happened on Bush's watch, not Clintons.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:44 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Kin wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Kin wrote: | anyone else notice this pattern?
A bush was elected, and we had a war and a recession. Then his son is elected, and we have a bigger war and a bigger recession.... lets hope bush Jr's daughters never become the president |
You missed the boat. The recession started under Clinton and ended under Bush. We have greater economic prosperity right now than in the past 25 years. |
Lol republicans passing the buck.
Clinton brought us nothing but prosperity, regardless of right wing spin. |
Uh...huh? The recession began in his term. It turned around under Bush's term. I don't understand what you're saying. |
nope, the slowdown in GDP growth didn't start untill 2000... which seems to me to be under bush's term...
check it out
http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/home/gdp.htm |
Actually the slowdown began 8 months before Bush took office. The recession began a month before he was sworn in.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:45 Post subject:
|
|
|
| themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Clinton was more concerned with image. That's why when Bush took office he actually had to deal with all this shit. Too bad Clinton put up rules that, if not in place, would have prevented 9/11!
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
themy
Sir Postalot
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1153
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:49 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Dont even start the monday morning quartebacking on osama.
Bush was well in office when the attacks hit and that f****r had a heads up and chose to ignore it.
That shit happened on Bush's watch, not Clintons. |
negative, go look up some sources besides democratic propoganda and come on back.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:57 Post subject:
|
|
|
| themy wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Dont even start the monday morning quartebacking on osama.
Bush was well in office when the attacks hit and that f****r had a heads up and chose to ignore it.
That shit happened on Bush's watch, not Clintons. |
negative, go look up some sources besides democratic propoganda and come on back. |
Yep he had a heads up and it DID happen on his watch.
Sorry, but its true.
I havent critisized Bush on this until now in response to your comment because I think going back and placing a blame on 911 is wrong, even if that blame were to fall on Bush I still say its wrong.
The thing to do now is look ahead and learn from 911, not point fingers.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 12:59 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Dont even start the monday morning quartebacking on osama.
Bush was well in office when the attacks hit and that f****r had a heads up and chose to ignore it.
That shit happened on Bush's watch, not Clintons. |
negative, go look up some sources besides democratic propoganda and come on back. |
Yep he had a heads up and it DID happen on his watch.
Sorry, but its true.
I havent critisized Bush on this until now in response to your comment because I think going back and placing a blame on 911 is wrong, even if that blame were to fall on Bush I still say its wrong.
The thing to do now is look ahead and learn from 911, not point fingers. |
Wrong. He had no heads up. Why? Because of organizational restrictions placed on the FBI and CIA by Clinton. I sure wish Clinton didn't do that. 9/11 would have never happened. That's what happens when you put a Democrat in office, though. Even worse will happen under Kerry.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:03 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Dont even start the monday morning quartebacking on osama.
Bush was well in office when the attacks hit and that f****r had a heads up and chose to ignore it.
That shit happened on Bush's watch, not Clintons. |
negative, go look up some sources besides democratic propoganda and come on back. |
Yep he had a heads up and it DID happen on his watch.
Sorry, but its true.
I havent critisized Bush on this until now in response to your comment because I think going back and placing a blame on 911 is wrong, even if that blame were to fall on Bush I still say its wrong.
The thing to do now is look ahead and learn from 911, not point fingers. |
Wrong. He had no heads up. Why? Because of organizational restrictions placed on the FBI and CIA by Clinton. I sure wish Clinton didn't do that. 9/11 would have never happened. That's what happens when you put a Democrat in office, though. Even worse will happen under Kerry. |
Everything you say is utter shit.
No offense, changing your name to Confused is fitting tho
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
themy
Sir Postalot
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1153
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Gravelbeard
Luke Warm
Joined: 21 Oct 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Port Saint Lucie Florida
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:11 Post subject:
|
|
|
There is no question that each side spins propaganda in ways to make both sides look like idiots; in a sense it’s the American way.
I just find it humorous that people are willing to elect someone as liberal as Kerry just because they don’t like Bush or his party, even if they don’t agree with Kerry’s track record or platform.
That in a nutshell is one of the most f****d up aspects of this countries political system in my own opinion.
The second most f****d up thing is how much we let the news media influence most people’s political views. It is almost like common sense and facts are not even a factor in generating “News”. It now has become how much “Drama” can we get out of this story of that and how much drama can we generate by promoting this issue or person over that.
We as a society are letting “Spin” become the driving force for the news media and not the facts. Something is wrong with that picture.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:16 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Gravelbeard wrote: | There is no question that each side spins propaganda in ways to make both sides look like idiots; in a sense it’s the American way.
I just find it humorous that people are willing to elect someone as liberal as Kerry just because they don’t like Bush or his party, even if they don’t agree with Kerry’s track record or platform.
That in a nutshell is one of the most f****d up aspects of this countries political system in my own opinion.
The second most f****d up thing is how much we let the news media influence most people’s political views. It is almost like common sense and facts are not even a factor in generating “News”. It now has become how much “Drama” can we get out of this story of that and how much drama can we generate by promoting this issue or person over that.
We as a society are letting “Spin” become the driving force for the news media and not the facts. Something is wrong with that picture. |
Kerrys gonna get us out of this mess, and the republicans can get back to accusing him of boinking the Hooters waitress and shout IMPEACH HIM!!!!
As far as 911, Themy
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner,
Seems to me there should be some major changes in airline security at this point.
OH WAIT BUSH WAS ON VACATION!!!
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Gravelbeard
Luke Warm
Joined: 21 Oct 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Port Saint Lucie Florida
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:20 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: |
OH WAIT BUSH WAS ON VACATION!!! |
yeah he for sure has no one making any decisions for him and being on vacation for sure means that the country is at a standstill when it comes to security.
/boggle
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:25 Post subject:
|
|
|
It is public record that he got out of town and took a month-long vacation even knowing of the Al Qaeda threat.
Bush nor his administration took it seriously and two towers fell.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Gravelbeard
Luke Warm
Joined: 21 Oct 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Port Saint Lucie Florida
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:28 Post subject:
|
|
|
oh and Clinton did?
we can play the blame game all f*****g day, what it comes down to is how are we going to fix it so it never happens again.
Bottom line.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Celestra
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 6929
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:29 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | Dude, you either completely misunderstood my point or you just don't want to listen to anything I said after I agreed (one time!)with what Jack Crow said, even though I probably don't agree with his motivations for saying it.
I will repeat again: I don't think Bush is stupid, but I do think sometimes he avoids situations that make him appear as such, since he IS a poor public speaker. He has said dumbsounding stuff in the past, there is no denying this. That doesn't mean I think he is dumb and everything he does is dumb, nor have I EVER said this. Smart people say dumb stuff all the time.
Frankly I'm offended that you throw me on the lot of 'closeminded' people from RP, because I'm simply not. I think you overreacted because I said one thing you didn't like or maybe because you misunderstood what I meant, but hey I'm not forcing ya to respond to me. /shrug. |
Seems to me a president should come across as poised, intelligent and eloquent.
Or at least not look stupid
Youre not closed minded , Cel and neither am I.
The great thing about America is you can call b******t when you see it. |
Well I dunno about that. It's not the MOST important thing but it does help your international image.
Bush is not a good public speaker, and yes, it would help his image if he was. But I usually judge people on their deeds (which is why I wanted him to explain himself more in that Q&A segment I saw on tv), not the way they can smoothtalk people. I would hope others do the same, in that way I can understand why Nuldaan gets upset over people just dismissing everything Bush says as dumb, just because of the way he delivers it sometimes, without giving it more thought. (I do feel his comments to me were misplaced at best though)
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Guest
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:35 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Celestra wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Celestra wrote: | Dude, you either completely misunderstood my point or you just don't want to listen to anything I said after I agreed (one time!)with what Jack Crow said, even though I probably don't agree with his motivations for saying it.
I will repeat again: I don't think Bush is stupid, but I do think sometimes he avoids situations that make him appear as such, since he IS a poor public speaker. He has said dumbsounding stuff in the past, there is no denying this. That doesn't mean I think he is dumb and everything he does is dumb, nor have I EVER said this. Smart people say dumb stuff all the time.
Frankly I'm offended that you throw me on the lot of 'closeminded' people from RP, because I'm simply not. I think you overreacted because I said one thing you didn't like or maybe because you misunderstood what I meant, but hey I'm not forcing ya to respond to me. /shrug. |
Seems to me a president should come across as poised, intelligent and eloquent.
Or at least not look stupid
Youre not closed minded , Cel and neither am I.
The great thing about America is you can call b******t when you see it. |
Well I dunno about that. It's not the MOST important thing but it does help your international image.
Bush is not a good public speaker, and yes, it would help his image if he was. But I usually judge people on their deeds (which is why I wanted him to explain himself more in that Q&A segment I saw on tv), not the way they can smoothtalk people. I would hope others do the same, in that way I can understand why Nuldaan gets upset over people just dismissing everything Bush says as dumb, just because of the way he delivers it sometimes, without giving it more thought. (I do feel his comments to me were misplaced at best though) |
Nuldaans mad at you because you agreed with me on the one little point I made about Bush keeping his mouth shut to stay off the daily show.
hahah nice little hissy fit he had too!
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Syke
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
Posts: 2976
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 13:39 Post subject:
|
|
|
Nuldaan pussed out. How can you be so selfish Nuldaan?
If you know better, why not use that knowledge to let people know whats right and whats wrong, and not be an a*****e about it? Oh wait, if you disagree with this request, can I call you an a*****e and not get shit about it?
Fact is, you probably don't know any better, and you just hate to argue. Why not admit that instead of knocking Celestra's point of view down just because it isn't the same as yours?
Don't be lame man.. Listen to what she is saying instead of disregarding it, because you have a personal affront with some anonymous person named "Jack Crow" that happens to agree with the opposing side of the argument. That's all I can see at this point, and it seems pretty pathetic.. :\
This may be Realpoor, but that doesn't mean you need to act like a jerkoff, it's not a requirement.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Haroun Zehra
Sir Postalot
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 1235
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:14 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Confused wrote: |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Right... because white trash get scholarships to Oxford ALL the time.
Clinton was probably the most eloquent president since at least Kennedy. If you don't agree, I suggest you go look up the word, as it may not mean what you think it means.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:22 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Jack Crow wrote: | It is public record that he got out of town and took a month-long vacation even knowing of the Al Qaeda threat.
Bush nor his administration took it seriously and two towers fell. |
Look, we conservatives were very polite about not placnig the blame on Clinton where it belongs. Bush was nice enough not to point fingers. But now you leftists wanted a political 9/11 commission and we now have no choice but to expose the truth. Clinton was responsible for 9/11.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:23 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Right... because white trash get scholarships to Oxford ALL the time.
Clinton was probably the most eloquent president since at least Kennedy. If you don't agree, I suggest you go look up the word, as it may not mean what you think it means. |
lol...Kennedy.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Gravelbeard
Luke Warm
Joined: 21 Oct 2002
Posts: 203
Location: Port Saint Lucie Florida
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:24 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Right... because white trash get scholarships to Oxford ALL the time.
Clinton was probably the most eloquent president since at least Kennedy. If you don't agree, I suggest you go look up the word, as it may not mean what you think it means. |
No question he was eloquent. Ran the best self promotion campaign the 8 years he was president ever. I don't even deny he did some good things for the country but it all comes down to image and he was a master at polishing his.
I think the democrats have painted themselves into a corner with Kerry though as far as image and electability go.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Syke
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
Posts: 2976
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:25 Post subject:
|
|
|
|
If by polishing you mean, having a woman suck you off in the oval office..then yes..yes indeed.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
Posts: 6730
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:30 Post subject:
|
|
|
| Gravelbeard wrote: | | Haroun Zehra wrote: | | Confused wrote: |
Clinton was white trash who ran around on his wife eating McDonalds and making more verabl faux-pas than one can count. was he "eloquent"? |
Right... because white trash get scholarships to Oxford ALL the time.
Clinton was probably the most eloquent president since at least Kennedy. If you don't agree, I suggest you go look up the word, as it may not mean what you think it means. |
No question he was eloquent. Ran the best self promotion campaign the 8 years he was president ever. I don't even deny he did some good things for the country but it all comes down to image and he was a master at polishing his.
I think the democrats have painted themselves into a corner with Kerry though as far as image and electability go. |
He wasn't particularly eloquent. What made him a good public speaker was the fact that he was colloquial. That's why he got a lot of votes from poor uneducated people.
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
wellspoken
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Posts: 7137
|
|
Posted: 04/16/04 - 14:36 Post subject:
|
|
|
| themy wrote: | | you say that clinton had no problems, well of course he had no "problems" because he let osama go when he debated going after him a few times (which could have stopped 9/11) and also his policy on N korea was to give them oil and 2 light water reactors. In return from N korea they were supposed to stop using their 2 nuclear plants and their fuel rod processing. instead we now have a possibility of terrorists recieving enriched uranium. GO CLINTON! |
Just shut up, idiot. :\
|
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
