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IceIsFun
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 Posted: 05/07/05 - 07:57 Post subject: More Anti-Cellular BS
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/06/phone.iraq/index.html
| Quote: | | The student received the call from Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates during a lunch break at Spencer High School. |
| Quote: | The student knew it was against school policy to use a cell phone on school grounds, he added.
"We try to protect instructional time. We try to make sure the environment in the school is appropriate," Phillips said. "The young man knows what the rules and regulations are." |
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Kilzalot
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 07:58 Post subject:
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Yea I read that yesterday. It's b******t... if I were the kid I'd have told the school to f**k off too...
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Mogling
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 10:42 Post subject:
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He has my phone I think Nokia 6820
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 16:15 Post subject:
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Whatever. Read this part over and over again and tell me who was in the wrong: "The teen did not tell the teacher he was talking to his mother in Iraq."
So the school has to assume that it's mommy in Iraq? Also, did he leave the room when she called or did he chat away during class?
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Someone
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 17:27 Post subject:
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His mother being in Iraq shouldn't be used as a justifier. It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. I don't think the soldiers fighting, serving, or protecting in Iraq should be used as a reason to allow children to talk on cell phones in class.
He should have turned the cell phone in when asked. He should have taken the three day suspension. He should have taken the 10 day suspension and not gone to the press.
What a brave martyr.
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Renork
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 17:39 Post subject:
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| Someone wrote: | His mother being in Iraq shouldn't be used as a justifier. It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. I don't think the soldiers fighting, serving, or protecting in Iraq should be used as a reason to allow children to talk on cell phones in class.
He should have turned the cell phone in when asked. He should have taken the three day suspension. He should have taken the 10 day suspension and not gone to the press.
What a brave martyr. |
You are an idiot, who is at all trying to defend/justify any student talking on a cell phone in class?
Also, didnt the first article about this, which was from the students perspective not the administraions, say that he told the teacher about it being his mother?
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Scrabler
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 17:44 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | Whatever. Read this part over and over again and tell me who was in the wrong: "The teen did not tell the teacher he was talking to his mother in Iraq."
So the school has to assume that it's mommy in Iraq? Also, did he leave the room when she called or did he chat away during class? |
CNN hates the military..
All the other reports on this I have seen say this pretty much:
| Quote: | COLUMBUS, Ga. May 6, 2005 — A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.
The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.
The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.
Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."
Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
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So the school allowed them on campus but not the use of them. He was out of class during lunch and he told them it was his mom.
I would have told them to f**k off too.
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Renork
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 17:48 Post subject:
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I told my teacher off when she tried to turn off the TV when we started the bombing in Iraq.
She turned it off, and when I requested it back on because it was an important historical event she refused and I asked he if anything she thinks she can say to me about "fishes"(yes my biology teacher said fishes /tard and yes I used air quotes to mock her when I said it.) could be at all more important than the events taking place atm.
She was p****d but everyone laughed and I didnt end up in any trouble so its all good.
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Kilzalot
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 17:52 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | Whatever. Read this part over and over again and tell me who was in the wrong: "The teen did not tell the teacher he was talking to his mother in Iraq."
So the school has to assume that it's mommy in Iraq? Also, did he leave the room when she called or did he chat away during class? |
CNN hates the military..
All the other reports on this I have seen say this pretty much:
| Quote: | COLUMBUS, Ga. May 6, 2005 — A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.
The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.
The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.
Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."
Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
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So the school allowed them on campus but not the use of them. He was out of class during lunch and he told them it was his mom.
I would have told them to f**k off too. |
Indeed sir.
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Akimatsu
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 18:24 Post subject:
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It said in the report the young man did NOT tell the teacher who he was speaking with.
So he was told not to use the phone, responded as a d**k w/o explaining "hey its my mom in IRAQ is this cool?" and responded with "I am 17, I can do what I want, step off biatch". f**k him, he needs to learn some respect.
Rules are rules. Sure some rules can be bent, as if he asked if it was ok because it was his mom from Iraq, but he didnt, he wanted to be a c**k so he was treated like a c**k and got f****d.
He deserves it.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 18:28 Post subject:
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| Akimatsu wrote: | It said in the report the young man did NOT tell the teacher who he was speaking with.
So he was told not to use the phone, responded as a d**k w/o explaining "hey its my mom in IRAQ is this cool?" and responded with "I am 17, I can do what I want, step off biatch". f**k him, he needs to learn some respect.
Rules are rules. Sure some rules can be bent, as if he asked if it was ok because it was his mom from Iraq, but he didnt, he wanted to be a c**k so he was treated like a c**k and got f****d.
He deserves it. |
CNN is the only one I've seen so far that has said that. The rest say he told them it was his mom.
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Akimatsu
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 18:31 Post subject:
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Well if he explained the situation that would be a different story. If not f**k him.
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Someone
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 21:22 Post subject:
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| Renork wrote: | | Someone wrote: | His mother being in Iraq shouldn't be used as a justifier. It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. I don't think the soldiers fighting, serving, or protecting in Iraq should be used as a reason to allow children to talk on cell phones in class.
He should have turned the cell phone in when asked. He should have taken the three day suspension. He should have taken the 10 day suspension and not gone to the press.
What a brave martyr. |
You are an idiot, who is at all trying to defend/justify any student talking on a cell phone in class?
Also, didnt the first article about this, which was from the students perspective not the administraions, say that he told the teacher about it being his mother? |
I'm sorry, you probably got confused reading so many words.
| Quote: | | It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. |
It's called prevention. Since they are prohibited in school, he broke the rule. The rule used to prevent students from ever being able to speak in class by defect. I'm sure your normal attitude is defiant, but think outside the box. Furthermore, with something like 3700 students in the district with military families, allowing one rude, pushy individual to use the soldiers in Iraq (even his mother) as an excuse is terrible practice if they don't like the idea of cell phones being used on campus.
-So lets see. We have a person who broke a rule. He was then rude and would not treat the authority figures around him with respect. He could have avoided any trouble, but he felt being defiant would somehow clear the obstacles preventing him from doing what he wanted.
-By the way, don’t call me an idiot if you are going to spell ‘didnt’ and ‘administraions’ as such in the following statement. We all make mistakes, but don’t be too hypocritical.
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Someone
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 21:29 Post subject:
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/sigh, so which article is correct? Are they not allowed on campus or just not allowed during school hours? It really doesn't matter when dealing with the punishment, but having a source that is dependable might be helpful when trying to know the truth.
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kbarr
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 21:40 Post subject:
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LOL, figures.
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Overon
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Posted: 05/07/05 - 22:32 Post subject:
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Why is this in the news?
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Renork
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Posted: 05/08/05 - 01:25 Post subject:
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| Someone wrote: | | Renork wrote: | | Someone wrote: | His mother being in Iraq shouldn't be used as a justifier. It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. I don't think the soldiers fighting, serving, or protecting in Iraq should be used as a reason to allow children to talk on cell phones in class.
He should have turned the cell phone in when asked. He should have taken the three day suspension. He should have taken the 10 day suspension and not gone to the press.
What a brave martyr. |
You are an idiot, who is at all trying to defend/justify any student talking on a cell phone in class?
Also, didnt the first article about this, which was from the students perspective not the administraions, say that he told the teacher about it being his mother? |
I'm sorry, you probably got confused reading so many words.
| Quote: | | It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. |
It's called prevention. Since they are prohibited in school, he broke the rule. The rule used to prevent students from ever being able to speak in class by defect. I'm sure your normal attitude is defiant, but think outside the box. Furthermore, with something like 3700 students in the district with military families, allowing one rude, pushy individual to use the soldiers in Iraq (even his mother) as an excuse is terrible practice if they don't like the idea of cell phones being used on campus.
-So lets see. We have a person who broke a rule. He was then rude and would not treat the authority figures around him with respect. He could have avoided any trouble, but he felt being defiant would somehow clear the obstacles preventing him from doing what he wanted.
-By the way, don’t call me an idiot if you are going to spell ‘didnt’ and ‘administraions’ as such in the following statement. We all make mistakes, but don’t be too hypocritical. |
Your a tool and not only going with a biased source, and quotes from the administration trying to run damage control, buy your using a revamped story as well. It seems you too have trouble with alot of words since you decided not to read the whole damn thread.
| Quote: | COLUMBUS, Ga. May 6, 2005 — A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.
The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.
The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.
Mobile phones are llowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."a
Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
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He prolly had it on vibrate, saw it was his mom and answered. Who wouldnt have done that.
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Qaldyin
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Posted: 05/08/05 - 03:39 Post subject:
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All the people that are saying he's wrong and he should be suspended must have been hiding during high school. A lot of kids use cell phones, and the majority bring them to school. High schools have trouble enforcing those rules because everyone has a cell. I'm surprised they even asked to take it away lol.
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Someone
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Posted: 05/08/05 - 06:17 Post subject:
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| Renork wrote: | | Someone wrote: | | Renork wrote: | | Someone wrote: | His mother being in Iraq shouldn't be used as a justifier. It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. I don't think the soldiers fighting, serving, or protecting in Iraq should be used as a reason to allow children to talk on cell phones in class.
He should have turned the cell phone in when asked. He should have taken the three day suspension. He should have taken the 10 day suspension and not gone to the press.
What a brave martyr. |
You are an idiot, who is at all trying to defend/justify any student talking on a cell phone in class?
Also, didnt the first article about this, which was from the students perspective not the administraions, say that he told the teacher about it being his mother? |
I'm sorry, you probably got confused reading so many words.
| Quote: | | It's against school policy to have a phone because pretentious people will disrupt class as well as have their conversation during the teaching time. He should not have taken the cell phone to school with him, but since he did, and because he got the call, people are flying under the 'his mom is in Iraq' banner. |
It's called prevention. Since they are prohibited in school, he broke the rule. The rule used to prevent students from ever being able to speak in class by defect. I'm sure your normal attitude is defiant, but think outside the box. Furthermore, with something like 3700 students in the district with military families, allowing one rude, pushy individual to use the soldiers in Iraq (even his mother) as an excuse is terrible practice if they don't like the idea of cell phones being used on campus.
-So lets see. We have a person who broke a rule. He was then rude and would not treat the authority figures around him with respect. He could have avoided any trouble, but he felt being defiant would somehow clear the obstacles preventing him from doing what he wanted.
-By the way, don’t call me an idiot if you are going to spell ‘didnt’ and ‘administraions’ as such in the following statement. We all make mistakes, but don’t be too hypocritical. |
Your a tool and not only going with a biased source, and quotes from the administration trying to run damage control, buy your using a revamped story as well. It seems you too have trouble with alot of words since you decided not to read the whole damn thread.
| Quote: | COLUMBUS, Ga. May 6, 2005 — A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.
The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.
The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.
Mobile phones are llowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."a
Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
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He prolly had it on vibrate, saw it was his mom and answered. Who wouldnt have done that. |
Now, this will be my last non-cruel response to you. Perhaps you should read the sequence of posts. I'll save you a little time by outlining it first so it makes sense when you are reading through the posts. You will first notice the thread being created with the CNN link. Four posts later you will notice that I make commentary. There are no other links presented about other articles nor mention of such. You then later make comments about me with faulty premises. Later on I respond back. During the time between our correspondence, further mention is made of other articles and discrepancies. At this point I follow up my second post with a third post expressing dislike for the discrepancies.
Now that you have attempted to side track the argument from "You are an idiot, who is at all trying to defend/justify any student talking on a cell phone in class?" to I am a tool for using a source you don't agree with, you should apologize. You should do so because you were wrong. Furthermore, I still support my previous view about the student. You can attempt to argue that with me.
"Your a tool" should be You're a tool. I only bring this up because you insist on insulting me with such interestingly formed comments.
Finally, if he wasn't supposed to have the phone on campus then he was wrong. If he just wasn't allowed to use the phone on campus, then he was still wrong. He didn't get 10 days suspension for using the phone. He was merely told to turn in the phone. You understand the sequence? I think it's sequences of events that give you trouble.
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Desaitar
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Posted: 05/08/05 - 08:31 Post subject:
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who gives a f**k about one kid and his cellphone?
anyway, id have told the school to f**k off.
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