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quotison
RealPoor Sensei
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 Posted: 11/29/03 - 18:17 Post subject: Mob rankings list
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I was bored, so I decided to try to do this for PoP encounters. Its a work in progress, considering that many encounters, especially Time, were ranked based on what I heard from other people, instead of actual experience. So here it is, debate, discuss, whine, moan, whatever 
This list is seperated into Time/Elementals/Tier 1-3
Vallon Zek, Plane of Time
Innoruuk, Plane of Time
Quarm, Plane of Time
Tallon Zek, Plane of Time
Rallos Zek, Plane of Time
Cazic Thule, Plane of Time
Terris Thule, Plane of Time
Saryrn, Plane of Time
Bertoxxulous, Plane of Time
The Rathe Council/Avatar of Earth, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Coirnav the Avatar of Water, Reef of Coirnav
Xegony the Queen of Air, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Warlord Gintolaken, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Fennin Ro the Tyrant of Fire, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Sigismond Windwalker/Avatar of Dust, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
A Mystical Arbitor of Earth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
General Reparm, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Blazzax the Omnifiend, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Ofossaa the Enlightened, Reef of Coirnav
A Perfected Warder of Earth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Krziik the Mighty, Reef of Coirnav
Hydrotha, Reef of Coirnav
Magmaton, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Derugoak Bloodwalker, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
A Monsterous Mudwalker, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
War Chieftan Awisano, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
War Chieftan Birak, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
War Chieftan Galronar, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Arch Mage Yozanni, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Babnoxis the Spider Queen, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Grioihin the Wise, Reef of Corinav
Tantisala Jaggedtooth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Peregrin Rockskull, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
General Durav Flamesinger, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
An Elemental Masterpiece/Avatar of Mist, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Quavnois Firetail, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Melernil Faal'Armanna/Avatar of Smoke, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Jaxoliz Dawneyes/Criare Sunmane, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Pyronis, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Phelondien Clawpike/Avatar of Wind, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Rallos Zek the Warlord, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Bertoxxulous, Ruins of Lxanvom
Lord Mithaniel Marr, Temple of Marr
Solusek Ro, Tower of Solusek Ro
Rydda'Dar, Halls of Honor
Agnarr the Stormlord, Torden, the Bastion of Thunder
High Priest Ultor Szanvom, Ruins of Lxanvom
Manaetic Behemoth, Plane of Innovation
Saryrn, Plane of Torment
Aerin'Dar, Plane of Valor
Tallon Zek, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Vallon Zek, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Grummus, Plane of Disease
Terris Thule, Lair of Terris Thule
Xanamech Nezmirthafen, Plane of Innovation
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The Time list includes all eight gods and Quarm. The elemental list contains all gods, mold droppers and certain minis that are harder then the easiest mold droppers (i.e I put Wise on this list, but not Queen Silandria). The tier 1-3 list contains all flag mobs, excluding Sol Ro minis.
I didn't include any of the named from PoEB (excluding Ginto, since I've been told by several he's Fennin-difficulty), due to lack of information. The time rankings is based roughly on Catranizi's post on pg 204 of the guild rankings thread.
I'd like to integrate these lists to make one single list, but its difficult. No one would doubt that RZTW is easier then Fennin, but is RZTW easier then certain elemental mold droppers? I'd say yes, but its hard to gauge exactly where to put an encounter like RZTW on the list. Also its somewhat irrelevant because you're not going to get a shot at Reparm, etc unless you beat RZ.
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Silvermouse
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
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Posted: 11/29/03 - 19:07 Post subject:
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You were indeed bored, but where is Velketor and Klandicar on this list??1
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Mogling
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Posted: 11/29/03 - 19:53 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | You were indeed bored, but where is Velketor and Klandicar on this list??1 |
THE BOTTEM SIR!
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/29/03 - 22:57 Post subject:
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Phelondien Clawpike/Avatar of Wind, Doomfire the Burning Lands
wtehfux0r
Move Quarm lower down the time list.. maybe after Saryrn =P
Tallon Zek/RZ completely depend on your tanks hp and how own your clerics are =p So it can either be really easy, or really hard!
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Derringer
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Posted: 11/29/03 - 23:59 Post subject:
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We haven't yet fought in Time, but I will take your Ele list and add/change some things:
Move Coirnav above The Rathe Council, imo. At least they are 'tied' in difficulty, in my opinion. They are difficult in different ways, but at least equally difficult, and my personal nod goes to Coirnav for most difficult.
Good call on Warlord Gintolaken being harder then Fennin... I believe he absolutely is.
After that it gets kind of sketchy. Reparm has more DPS then A Mystical Arbitor of Earth, but I'll roll with your order on that since its close. And, you ditched the mob that we all love to hate.. General Druav Flamesinger is harder then you have him listed. This is neat considering his asstastic loot-table, go SoE ! =p
On your pre-elemental list, I would move Solusek Ro way down the list. He is the very definition of a gimp. I also think Rydda'Dar is harder then Mithaniel Marr, but maybe that is debatable.
I have no commentary on Plane of Time mobs... yet.
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Brael
RealPoor Guru
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 00:11 Post subject:
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Quarm after Time Saryrn Meeatsu? Please... I would put him under Xanamech. Or atleast under Rythor of the Undead (which isn't listed) if you wanna stick with time only mobs. The thing with Time mobs is almost all of them vary depending on who wears the loot in your guild. I might agree with that list for a learning curve on the mobs but the actual difficulty is pretty different.
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 14:02 Post subject:
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True Brael, but we've only killed Quarm once. The attempt we killed em we had like 3 deaths period and he did seem super f*****g easy after we got the positioning perfected. I'm sure after we have a few more kills he will seem like the easiest mob in PoP period.. But like Brael said.. PoTime is completely dependant on who wears the loot. If your MTs have suckass hp (cough Hi Pak! Your warriors need to buy my book on Loot Whoring, its right next to the Bible of Cockblocking for long periods of time), your going to have problems, especially on the higher DPS mobs.
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Varon-Pak
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 14:41 Post subject:
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I would buy your book Meeat, but Derr said no  And then they made me tank some long, mundane raid , and then Grom comes in and tanks the named and takes the glory as always  So much abuse.
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Rasil_Sabishi
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 15:23 Post subject:
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Shut up! At least you're playing again.
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Varon-Pak
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 15:28 Post subject:
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Not just yet, a couple more weeks and I should be back for good, I just played for the rathe so we would win /nod 
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quotison
RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 15:31 Post subject:
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Lots of things have less DPS then Reparm, but there is a certain simplicity to Reparm. You lose a tank? Okay, start healing another one. You wipe? Okay, try again.
With Arbiter you're killing him after you've done 1-4 of the PoE rings, which may or may not be very late in the evening Plus you have the time limit, and the PITA clear, and the adds, etc.
Durav can be a PITA as well, but I put him low because I don't think we've ever wiped to him and I don't hear about many other guilds wiping to him either. Once you get used to him and other mobs, I think you're more likely to have a messy kill on Durav though. Oddly enough I think we've did Reparm once with a single death, but I don't think we can claim the same for Durav Although looking at it, perhaps he deserves to be put in front of the other two Air avatars.
I like Sol Ro where he is now. RZTW makes Sol Ro look easy. Consider when a guild tries each respective mob. We made a token attempt or two on Rydda Dar in April and lost, eventually beat him in June. Sol Ro we didn't attempt until late August, after we beat RZTW.
With regards to Coirnav and Rathe.. I realize that the Coirnav event has been made more difficult, yet I've heard people say even in the past that Coirnav is harder then the Rathe. Yet 90% of the guilds it seems in Time now beat Coirnav before Rathe. Some guilds, like TA killed Coirnav as their second elemental god.
I'd like more input on that, since I haven't experienced either encounter of course. Is the deal with Rathe that its a PITA encounter more then Coirnav, therefore guilds save it for last? Win or lose, Coirnav takes 30 minutes, right?
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Mianya
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 16:00 Post subject:
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It's not so much that the Rathe event itself is hard, it's that the damn thing is stupifying long and boring - and it's hard to maintain concentration for that long.
Corny gives you your 15 minutes or whatever it is of action.
Xegony is boring too, but at least she only takes 40 minutes or whatever.
FR gives you a bunch of shit to kill, a few mini's that can drop some decent stuff, and a decent fight at the end.
10k+ tanks help in Time, but it's all down to the clerics baby (and the necro's that feed them  )
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 16:09 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | With regards to Coirnav and Rathe.. I realize that the Coirnav event has been made more difficult, |
From experience from lastnight.. The event is still the same difficulty it was before the "nerf". I saw no difference at all other then the enforced 15min timer..
Coirnav and Rathe aren't hard at all...
Only thing hard about Rathe is the 11th Tikiman, he's a evil sob.
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Rasil_Sabishi
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 18:14 Post subject:
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| Meeatsu wrote: | | Quote: | | With regards to Coirnav and Rathe.. I realize that the Coirnav event has been made more difficult, |
From experience from lastnight.. The event is still the same difficulty it was before the "nerf". I saw no difference at all other then the enforced 15min timer.. |
Correct, it's basically been changed back to the pre-nerf version but just inforcing the 15 min. Those handful of attempts at the insane version were fun and I'm kind of dissapointed they didn't leave it in for a bit longer, we woulda had it  .
The learning curve for coirnav is harder then rathe, that's why I like coirnav about rathe.
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 18:36 Post subject:
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That crazy insane version was fun as hell and complete chaos the few attempts we tried it lol
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Snasty
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Posted: 11/30/03 - 21:41 Post subject: quarm
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Quarm difficulty is also dependent on how long you have been fighting that day. When you are on your 7th hour in time b that first 50% of him can be difficult. Also the random number generator can make this a very different fight.
Bertox doesn't really belong in phase 5 he needs to go level up some before he gets to play with the big boys.
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quotison
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 01:06 Post subject:
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Added the war chieftans to the list after talking to someone about them. Moved Durav up a few steps as per Derringer's input
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 03:00 Post subject:
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ah dude.. War Chieftains are hands down easiest mobs in the eles =p
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 03:01 Post subject:
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Well other then that Clawpike guy.. but he shouldn't even count!
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 03:04 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Tantisala Jaggedtooth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands |
Move this lower too! We've had druids MT this thing before
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narby
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 09:02 Post subject:
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meeatsu speaks the truth!
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Dagar
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 11:23 Post subject:
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| Mianya wrote: | | 10k+ tanks help in Time, but it's all down to the clerics baby (and the necro's that feed them ) |
Whats a Necro?
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quotison
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 11:41 Post subject:
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omgz, Whoresu is a pain in the ass.
I put the War chieftans there after talking with one of your own guildmates. And if I moved the croc any lower, he'd be easier then the air avatars.
And since when can druids tank?
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Catranizi
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 11:47 Post subject: Re: Mob rankings list
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Innoruuk, Plane of Time
Vallon Zek, Plane of Time
Rallos Zek, Plane of Time
Quarm, Plane of Time
Tallon Zek, Plane of Time
Terris Thule, Plane of Time
Saryrn, Plane of Time
Cazic Thule, Plane of Time
Bertoxxulous, Plane of Time
Coirnav the Avatar of Water, Reef of Coirnav
The Rathe Council/Avatar of Earth, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Xegony the Queen of Air, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Warlord Gintolaken, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Sigismond Windwalker/Avatar of Dust, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Fennin Ro the Tyrant of Fire, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
A Mystical Arbitor of Earth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
General Reparm, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Blazzax the Omnifiend, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Arch Mage Yozanni, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Krziik the Mighty, Reef of Coirnav
Ofossaa the Enlightened, Reef of Coirnav
A Perfected Warder of Earth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Magmaton, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Babnoxis the Spider Queen, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Grioihin the Wise, Reef of Corinav
A Monsterous Mudwalker, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Derugoak Bloodwalker, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Hydrotha, Reef of Coirnav
General Druav Flamesinger, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
War Chieftan Awisano, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
War Chieftan Birak, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
War Chieftan Galronar, Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve
Tantisala Jaggedtooth, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
Peregrin Rockskull, Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands
An Elemental Masterpiece/Avatar of Mist, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Quavnois Firetail, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Melernil Faal'Armanna/Avatar of Smoke, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Jaxoliz Dawneyes/Criare Sunmane, Doomfire, the Burning Lands
Pyronis, Doomfire the Burning Lands
Phelondien Clawpike/Avatar of Wind, Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind
Rallos Zek the Warlord, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Bertoxxulous, Ruins of Lxanvom
Solusek Ro, Tower of Solusek Ro
Rydda'Dar, Halls of Honor
Agnarr the Stormlord, Torden, the Bastion of Thunder
Lord Mithaniel Marr, Temple of Marr
Manaetic Behemoth, Plane of Innovation
High Priest Ultor Szanvom, Ruins of Lxanvom
Saryrn, Plane of Torment
Aerin'Dar, Plane of Valor
Tallon Zek, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Vallon Zek, Drunder, Fortress of Zek
Terris Thule, Lair of Terris Thule
Grummus, Plane of Disease
Xanamech Nezmirthafen, Plane of Innovation
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 12/01/03 - 12:06 Post subject:
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Narby tanks fine We was gonna have him tank FR but Garshu was whining cuz he wanted to get to bed =/
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Juwel
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Posted: 12/02/03 - 08:09 Post subject:
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Where is the fishlord ring from plane of water on your list quotison?
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Aluaeia
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Posted: 12/02/03 - 13:32 Post subject:
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| Juwel wrote: | | Where is the fishlord ring from plane of water on your list quotison? |
Over in the "No one cares" corner.
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Catranizi
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Posted: 12/02/03 - 15:45 Post subject:
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| Aluaeia wrote: | | Juwel wrote: | | Where is the fishlord ring from plane of water on your list quotison? |
Over in the "No one cares" corner. |
Say, anyone got 100pp handy?
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narby
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Posted: 12/02/03 - 16:23 Post subject:
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die cat!!
you are prolly the one that started fishlord event on us the other day while we were moving down to coirnav!
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Catranizi
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Posted: 12/02/03 - 16:41 Post subject:
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Surprisingly enough, that was probably the only time I didn't start it.
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