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PostPosted: 08/23/04 - 14:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Chris Matthews wants Bush "to stop saying that John Kerry declared himself the anti-war candidate, which is clearly not what he said because I used the word anti-war candidate and I referred to a number of them? "

Bush claims Kerry said this: "I am the anti-war candidate."
Kerry actually said: "I am in the group of people who don't approve of the way the President went to war."

This is all b******t anyway. Do any of you actually believe Kerry would stop the war?


Uh...Why did you quote Bush as saying something he never said? Bush's statement are completely in line with Kerry's self-description.

Words mean something.


Bush wrote:
And now almost two years after he voted for the war in Iraq, about 220 days after switching positions to declare himself the anti-war candidate, my opponent has found a new nuance.


I was paraphrasing Bush's statement, not quoting him.
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PostPosted: 08/23/04 - 14:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulez wrote:
Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Chris Matthews wants Bush "to stop saying that John Kerry declared himself the anti-war candidate, which is clearly not what he said because I used the word anti-war candidate and I referred to a number of them? "

Bush claims Kerry said this: "I am the anti-war candidate."
Kerry actually said: "I am in the group of people who don't approve of the way the President went to war."

This is all b******t anyway. Do any of you actually believe Kerry would stop the war?


Uh...Why did you quote Bush as saying something he never said? Bush's statement are completely in line with Kerry's self-description.

Words mean something.


Bush wrote:
And now almost two years after he voted for the war in Iraq, about 220 days after switching positions to declare himself the anti-war candidate, my opponent has found a new nuance.


I was paraphrasing Bush's statement, not quoting him.


And yet you used quotation marks prefixed with "Bush claims Kerry said this:"

BTW, "paraphrasing" repeats what someone said in the same context using different words. "Rephasing" changes what they said. Words mean something.
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PostPosted: 08/23/04 - 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Chris Matthews wants Bush "to stop saying that John Kerry declared himself the anti-war candidate, which is clearly not what he said because I used the word anti-war candidate and I referred to a number of them? "

Bush claims Kerry said this: "I am the anti-war candidate."
Kerry actually said: "I am in the group of people who don't approve of the way the President went to war."

This is all b******t anyway. Do any of you actually believe Kerry would stop the war?


Uh...Why did you quote Bush as saying something he never said? Bush's statement are completely in line with Kerry's self-description.

Words mean something.


Bush wrote:
And now almost two years after he voted for the war in Iraq, about 220 days after switching positions to declare himself the anti-war candidate, my opponent has found a new nuance.


I was paraphrasing Bush's statement, not quoting him.


And yet you used quotation marks prefixed with "Bush claims Kerry said this:"


Right. Were I quoting Bush, it would've looked like "Bush said: "<me quoting Bush>"

Confused wrote:

BTW, "paraphrasing" repeats what someone said in the same context using different words. "Rephasing" changes what they said. Words mean something.


Right. I repeated what Bush said in the same context using different words.
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PostPosted: 08/23/04 - 14:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulez wrote:
Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Confused wrote:
Fabulez wrote:
Chris Matthews wants Bush "to stop saying that John Kerry declared himself the anti-war candidate, which is clearly not what he said because I used the word anti-war candidate and I referred to a number of them? "

Bush claims Kerry said this: "I am the anti-war candidate."
Kerry actually said: "I am in the group of people who don't approve of the way the President went to war."

This is all b******t anyway. Do any of you actually believe Kerry would stop the war?


Uh...Why did you quote Bush as saying something he never said? Bush's statement are completely in line with Kerry's self-description.

Words mean something.


Bush wrote:
And now almost two years after he voted for the war in Iraq, about 220 days after switching positions to declare himself the anti-war candidate, my opponent has found a new nuance.


I was paraphrasing Bush's statement, not quoting him.


And yet you used quotation marks prefixed with "Bush claims Kerry said this:"


Right. Were I quoting Bush, it would've looked like "Bush said: "<me quoting Bush>"

Confused wrote:

BTW, "paraphrasing" repeats what someone said in the same context using different words. "Rephasing" changes what they said. Words mean something.


Right. I repeated what Bush said in the same context using different words.


Wrong and wrong. You intentionally misquoted Bush to try and support your argument. I'm smarter than you, though, so it didn't work.
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