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Jakanden
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:27 Post subject: Law would ban smoking in cars with kids

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NinjaBurger
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:28 Post subject:

Just ban cigarettes and stop pussyfooting around it. Geez.

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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:31 Post subject:

Nah, just charge all smokers 100% of their own health-care costs, and make them refund any premiums their employers pay on their behalf.

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Jakanden
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:31 Post subject:

NinjaBurger wrote:

Just ban cigarettes and stop pussyfooting around it. Geez.

Works for me =)

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:47 Post subject:

More tree huggin hippy crap!

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Zwadrich
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 11:52 Post subject:

This is one of those useless trying to discuss topics. Give up on the smoking topics! smoking is good Mmmmm, its good for you and doesnt give u cancer! irl

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compusmack
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 12:39 Post subject:

NinjaBurger wrote:

Just ban cigarettes and stop pussyfooting around it. Geez.

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khrath
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 12:44 Post subject:

As an ex smoker of 10 years, I think banning smoking around children in any confined space is a good law. Forcing harmful side effects on children, from your bad habbit that is age restricted to begin with, is not a good thing. No smoker who is also a parent will argue this one bit.

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NickPSH
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 12:45 Post subject:

Tobacco companies are some meaaan sonofabitches.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 12:52 Post subject:

Impossible to enforce.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 13:38 Post subject:

[evil]Khrath wrote:

As an ex smoker of 10 years,.

b*******t, you smoked at Fan Faire!

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Zwadrich
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 13:55 Post subject:

Smoking around your children is a choice. You cant write down in a law how you should raise them. Its a parents choice. If they think its ok, good. Its their choice. Noone will care because the kids are probally gonna grow up being the same retards their parents are. So its better to have the kids die young, making them inable to reproduce their stupidity. Case closed Last edited by Zwadrich on 02/05/04 - 14:05; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 14:00 Post subject:

/agree on smoking around children, period. It's bad news. While they are at it, maybe they could actually ENFORCE the law that says that children should be in child-restraint seats up til a certain age? I cringe when I see a mother driving with a kid on her lap, or three toddlers standing up in the back seat waving at me through the rear window..I am always SO tempted to say something but I haven't yet

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 14:03 Post subject:

principessa wrote:

/agree on smoking around children, period. It's bad news.

While they are at it, maybe they could actually ENFORCE the law that says that children should be in child-restraint seats up til a certain age? I cringe when I see a mother driving with a kid on her lap, or three toddlers standing up in the back seat waving at me through the rear window..I am always SO tempted to say something but I haven't yet Sad

Again, impossible to enforce. In a lot of states the cops can and do pull you over for not wearing a seat belt, but 99% of the time you won't get caught, and cops have more important things to do than looking in every car on the freeway to see if there is an un-belted child in it. You can't legislate good parenting.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 14:11 Post subject:

AFK -- gonna go downstairs for a smoke =D

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 14:37 Post subject:

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No smoker who is also a parent will argue this one bit.

My father was a PoS and smoked heavily in the house and car. Would not let me open a window in the car or house because he was to cheap to pay a little extra in the heat or electric bill for the ac.

I got used to breathing the smoke but never got used to it burning my eyes. My eyes are sensitive to bright light and smoke. I can breath like normal in a room full of tear gas but the pain it causes my eyes is enough to put me on the ground.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 14:39 Post subject:

I r hate cigarettes, been trying to quit forever..

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Dyers
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:38 Post subject:

Ban car exhaust. Ban hair spray. Ban jet Chemtrails. Ban Toothpaste. Ban chemical additives in food. Ban Polution alltogether. (living in the heart of LA is like smoking 2 packs of smokes a day) Ban

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NickPSH
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:42 Post subject:

eqchanter wrote:

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No smoker who is also a parent will argue this one bit.

My father was a PoS and smoked heavily in the house and car. Would not let me open a window in the car or house because he was to cheap to pay a little extra in the heat or electric bill for the ac.

I got used to breathing the smoke but never got used to it burning my eyes. My eyes are sensitive to bright light and smoke. I can breath like normal in a room full of tear gas but the pain it causes my eyes is enough to put me on the ground.

Same here man, cigarette smoke burns the f**k out of my eyes for some reason. I also cough obnoxious like around someone smoking till they stop.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:47 Post subject:

I ski about every weekend - what p**s me off is having a smoke on the chair lift (40' +/- off the ground) and some assfuck behind me starts coughing and asks me to put it out. I told him to shut the fk up. I don't smoke on planes, I don't smoke in restraunts, I don't blow smoke at your non smoking ass, dont f**k with me with I'm on a 2500' high mountian having a cig or I'll shove my foot in your ass sideways...

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:48 Post subject:

I find N-American to be a lot more consious (sp) about the harms of cigarette smoke then Europe is. When I went back for a couple months last year, I was sitting in a "brasserie", having a coffee and crepes with my mom. Both her and I lit a cigarette, and I suddenly noticed there were atleast 10 children in that place, included some babies. This has always been a "normal" thing for me, but suddenly it didn't feel justified anymore. I put my cigarette out, and waited until we were done. I haven't quit yet, still smoke about 4 - 5 cigarettes a day, but I agree it's a nasty, unhealthy habbit. For the last few days I been trying to take an apple every time I feel like one, I'm out right now, and trying to not get another pack. If "will power" doesn't help me this time, I want to try medication.

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NickPSH
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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:50 Post subject:

Uglarbashdemgud wrote:

I ski about every weekend - what p****s me off is having a smoke on the chair lift (40' +/- off the ground) and some assfuck behind me starts coughing and asks me to put it out.

I told him to shut the f**k up. I don't smoke on planes, I don't smoke in restraunts, I don't blow smoke at your non smoking ass, dont f**k with me with I'm on a 2500' high mountian having a cig or I'll shove my foot in your ass sideways...

Man, I bet you started for a real good reason too! How's that badass image going for you?

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 15:54 Post subject:

[evil]Khrath wrote:

As an ex smoker of 10 years, I think banning smoking around children in any confined space is a good law.

Forcing harmful side effects on children, from your bad habbit that is age restricted to begin with, is not a good thing.

No smoker who is also a parent will argue this one bit.

i wouldnt allow people to smoke when they came over either out on the balcony thanks much. my hubby smoked in the car when we werent in it (on his way to work ect) but never with the kids and i in it.

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Posted: 02/05/04 - 16:37 Post subject:

Zwadrich wrote:

Smoking around your children is a choice. You cant write down in a law how you should raise them.

child abuse is a choice too ... if you can put up a good argument as to why filling your childs lungs with toxins which can kill them is somehow not as bad as hitting them id like to hear why. remember this is not a necessary evil like car exhaust . You can choose not to smoke and even more you can choose not to do it around your kids .

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