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I saw Laura on O'Reilly last night... she fekking OWNS!!!
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Oh I am sure that FauxNews gave her a lovely platform to shine in, but one literal 'shove it' from Theresa and she'd be down on her butt.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128013,00.html
| Quote: | O'REILLY: Why do you think the country is so divided? All the polls show that.
FIRST LADY, LAURA BUSH: Well, I think the country has been divided. I mean, obviously, look at the last election. It was very, very close. And I don't know why it is, but I just think that's sort of what our times are. But you know, we just see it every day. We see it in every sort of poll.
I will say, on the other hand, that the country was very united after September 11th. And I think we've stayed united in those ways, united in our pride of our country, and united in patriotism, I really do think so. I think what September 11th taught us, the lessons of September 11th were
how fortunate we are and how many freedoms we have, and we can't take them for granted.
O'REILLY: Your husband ran on a platform of "I'm a uniter, not a divider."
BUSH: And I do think he has really tried to unite.
O'REILLY: But why... this is a very interesting question. I do too. You know, I don't think he went out to polarize the nation. I mean, that's just left wing bomb throwing and it's irresponsible, in my opinion. But it is a fact that the debate now is more intense than I've ever seen in my 30 years in journalism.
BUSH: Well, you don't think it was equally intense at the last?
O'REILLY: No, I think it's more intense now. I think the partisanship and the divisiveness in the United States is more intense now than when your husband took office.
BUSH: And maybe that's also because the Congress is so evenly divided.
O'REILLY: There is political fighting, but I think a lot of it's social. I mean, you've got these issues like gay marriage and pledge of allegiance under god, which split the country, even though the polls say that most Americans come down on the traditional side on all of these issues. The media portrays it as that's not the way it is.
BUSH: You gave me a really great idea. Maybe it is the media that has us divided.
O'REILLY: I don't think that's far out. I mean, I think the media is very polarized itself. Look at the attacks on this network, and you know, we strike back. But the European press is brutal on your husband and it's brutal on America. France is not our friend anymore, I mean, as far as what their actions are. They may say they are. And I'm not sure why that is happening. Is it all about Iraq?
BUSH: Well, no, I don't think it's all about Iraq. I think part of it is envy. I think it's also partly because we are the only superpower left. You know, it's no longer the Russians and us. You know, we have such a preeminent role in the world. And you know, we're affluent. I think they look at that — no, Europe isn't. Europe certainly is too. But I don't think it's Iraq.
O'REILLY: Do you talk policy with your husband?
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: You do.
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: So you get in there and you say — because I know you disagree on issues with him...
BUSH: No, I mean, we don't have debates. I don't really feel like I have to have a debate with my husband over issues. But we talk about issues, we talk about people, we talk about personalities. George is a very good reader of people, and he's very perceptive about people, and you know, that's fine.
I mean, it's fun for us to talk about issues. You know, there's no one issue we spend a lot of time on probably, because he gets to do that all day with somebody else who's a lot more expert at issues than I am.
O'REILLY: Does he ask your opinion on issues?
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: You know, so he says... and so you're like a consigliore.
BUSH: No, I don't think so.
O'REILLY: What do you think about gay marriage, or what do you think about this, or what do you think about that... does he ask you...
BUSH: More of a sounding board, is that what you mean?
O'REILLY: Yeah.
BUSH: Yeah, possibly, sure.
O'REILLY: But you can't ever say, can you?
BUSH: Say publicly if it's different from him?
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: You know, sure, I could. You know, I could say it if I wanted what I thought to be the debate, publicly. But that, you know, he's the one whose name is on the ballot. He's the one who's sitting in the Oval Office, and I'm not. So, you know, I don't really feel like I have to say
what I think about every issue that is different from what he thinks.
O'REILLY: For the first time, your daughters are in the public eye, you know. And I mean, they're stars in the sense of the tabloid press because they're very pretty and people are interested in them. Two-edge sword here, right?
BUSH: It is. And we're actually thrilled. We're thrilled that they want to be involved in this campaign. It's fun for us to have them when we travel, have them with us. Jenna's traveled with me; they've both traveled with their dad. This is the only time they've been old enough in all of
their dad's campaigns to really be involved in.
I think they're actually having a good time. They've traveled with us. They've traveled separately. They've done separate events, separate campaign events in Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and Florida, and then they go to the headquarters. I think they're doing a weekly blog on the Web site about what their events are that week and what they've done. And they've written letters. They've written e-mails to supporters.
O'REILLY: So they're going to be busy in the next three months.
BUSH: So they're busy. They're very busy, and they're having a really good time. And it's been very fun and, actually, relaxing for us to have them on the trail.
O'REILLY: But you've had to sit them down and say, "You'd better behave, because if you do anything..." and they'll make it up even if you don't do it, you know.
BUSH: Well, I mean, if they do anything, like one of them has already done, the sticking out the tongue that Jenna did, you know, that makes the newspaper.
O'REILLY: Sure.
BUSH: And she turned around to her dad and said, "I just stuck my tongue out." And he said, "Well, Jenna, it will be in the paper tomorrow."
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: So they're learning. You know, they know. But there's a lot of scrutiny, and there is a lot of interest. People are interested. They want to know what family members are like.
O'REILLY: Have you given them any advice?
BUSH: Yes, I laughingly said — I told them to keep their hair out of their eyes and stand up straight, which is making me sit up straight.
O'REILLY: That's what you told them, "Keep your hair out of your eyes and sit up straight?"
BUSH: I didn't think to tell them, "Don't' stick your tongue out at the press."
O'REILLY: How about dating and things like that? Have you given them advice there?
BUSH: Not really, not that much. They're great girls. They're very funny, they're very smart, they're fun to be with. They're very lively, as I think people can tell. And you know, they're very confident girls.
O'REILLY: Did you see the Kerry girls at the Democratic Convention?
BUSH: I didn't, but I heard they were great.
O'REILLY: There was a hamster story...
BUSH: I have read the hamster story.
O'REILLY: Did the president ever save a hamster?
BUSH: Did he ever give a hamster mouth to mouth? I don't think so.
O'REILLY: I think people would be very interested in your day, what you do at the White House when you're there. Just go through your day for us if you would.
BUSH: Well, we wake up early. We always get up about 5:30, and George gets up and goes in and gets the coffee and brings it to me, and that's been our ritual since we got married. And we read the newspapers in bed and drink coffee for about an hour probably, read our briefing papers.
And then, we eat breakfast, and he goes to work at seven. And I workout, if I have a chance, if I'm at home at the White House, in the morning. When he leaves, I'll go to the gym upstairs. We have a little gym. And then, I go to work. If I'm just at the White House, I have meetings in my office, I sign letters, I plan different things. Late in the afternoon, I'll quit working and wait for my husband to get home.
O'REILLY: Did you watch Teresa Heinz Kerry's speech at the Democratic Convention?
BUSH: No.
O'REILLY: You didn't. It was an interesting speech. I don't quite know what she said, but she's a very flamboyant woman. Last night, she was confronted with some hecklers, some pro-Bush hecklers that were going, "Four more years," and she said, "Four more years of hell. Do you want four more years of hell?" How would you react to that?
BUSH: Well, of course, I don't like that. But you know, it's not easy when your husband runs for president. I mean, it's not easy for me. I'm sure it's not easy for her. There's a lot of scrutiny on families that isn't always wanted. And I think those sort of reactions, it's not easy to be heckled — you know, no one likes that.
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: And so, I can understand how her reactions would be like they are.
O'REILLY: You don't really like this, do you?
BUSH: I do actually really like it.
O'REILLY: Do you really?
BUSH: I like politics. I like traveling in the United States. Politics is a people business. I like people. I love to hear the stories of different Americans, which I have the opportunity to do if I travel.
O'REILLY: Did you grow into the job, because you're on record as saying, "You know, I really didn't..."
BUSH: Well, you know, what I know about...
O'REILLY: It's pretty dirty.
BUSH: ... I mean, the part you don't like, I mean, that's the only part. That's the part no one likes, and that is the criticisms, and the unfair criticisms, I might add, of my husband. But that's also just a fact of life in politics.
O'REILLY: Now, your mother in law, Barbara Bush, she took that personally, remember? Do you take it personally too when they...
BUSH: Sure, sometimes, absolutely.
O'REILLY: What do you do?
BUSH: Nothing.
O'REILLY: Do you call them up and yell?
BUSH: No.
O'REILLY: No, you just go...
BUSH: Of course not.
O'REILLY: Yeah.
BUSH: You know, I mean, it's just, you really do become — maybe I should say not inured to it, but almost.
O'REILLY: Numb.
BUSH: Because there's so much of it. You know, it's not easy. It's not easy to have the job of president. It's not easy to run for it. And it's not a job for the feint of heart.
O'REILLY: What do you think of the media in America?
BUSH: I mean, I think there are a lot of reasons to be critical of the media in America. I think a lot of times, the media sensationalizes or magnifies things that really shouldn't be, different issues maybe or different opinions more than reporting. I do think there's a big move away
from actual reporting, trying to report facts. And you know, it's in newspapers and everything you read that a lot more is opinion.
And a lot of words... it's very, you know, I'm interested in words, I'm interested in language. I'm a librarian. I'm a big reader and I see words that are actually subjective in a lot of news accounts.
O'REILLY: What do you think of Hollywood? They're taking a great delight in bashing the Bush family.
BUSH: Not every one of them. There are a few...
O'REILLY: About 80 percent of them.
BUSH: Exactly. You know, I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry about that. I don't like that, because there are a lot of people whose works I admire as actors or actresses, or musicians. And you know, I've been a big fan of different musicians or actors.
O'REILLY: When you go out on the campaign trail, you're going to be treated with dignity. I mean, we were talking before the interview and I said, you know, I can't give you a hard time. I mean, it'd cut my own throat. That's ridiculous. You're the first lady. You're entitled to
respect. You're entitled to be treated in a certain way. But they're also going to, you know, criticize...
BUSH: Criticized...
O'REILLY: ... behind your back, never to your face — behind your back. How do you process that?
BUSH: No one likes to be criticized. And, of course, one thing we criticize women about more, I think, or the wives of candidates or the wives of presidents, is the way they look.
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: And that's not really very fair. And, of course, no one likes that.
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I don't know about ownage. She seemed like a perfectly average president's wife. She didn't say anything great; she didn't say anything terrible.
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okay, I read that. Just what does she own? Nothing new or profound there at all. Just a pleasant chat with probably a pleasant woman. But its nice that you got to get your pom poms out for an airing.
BUSH: You gave me a really great idea. Maybe it is the media that has us divided.
whoaaa profound NEW idea. Add that to the fact that politics and religion has the ability to polarize all on its own.
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| Frehya wrote: | okay, I read that. Just what does she own? Nothing new or profound there at all. Just a pleasant chat with probably a pleasant woman. But its nice that you got to get your pom poms out for an airing.
BUSH: You gave me a really great idea. Maybe it is the media that has us divided.
whoaaa profound NEW idea. Add that to the fact that politics and religion has the ability to polarize all on its own. |
I agree with Nahu, I didn't see any owning.
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Hahaha Frehya.
I'd much rather have her as president than her husband! What I don't understand is how any homosexual can be a republican. Isn't that like a black man joining the KKK?
I don't get it.
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That interview seamed avarage, it wasn't like they were playing hard ball.
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| sinrakin wrote: | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128013,00.html
| Quote: | O'REILLY: Why do you think the country is so divided? All the polls show that.
FIRST LADY, LAURA BUSH: Well, I think the country has been divided. I mean, obviously, look at the last election. It was very, very close. And I don't know why it is, but I just think that's sort of what our times are. But you know, we just see it every day. We see it in every sort of poll.
I will say, on the other hand, that the country was very united after September 11th. And I think we've stayed united in those ways, united in our pride of our country, and united in patriotism, I really do think so. I think what September 11th taught us, the lessons of September 11th were
how fortunate we are and how many freedoms we have, and we can't take them for granted.
O'REILLY: Your husband ran on a platform of "I'm a uniter, not a divider."
BUSH: And I do think he has really tried to unite.
O'REILLY: But why... this is a very interesting question. I do too. You know, I don't think he went out to polarize the nation. I mean, that's just left wing bomb throwing and it's irresponsible, in my opinion. But it is a fact that the debate now is more intense than I've ever seen in my 30 years in journalism.
BUSH: Well, you don't think it was equally intense at the last?
O'REILLY: No, I think it's more intense now. I think the partisanship and the divisiveness in the United States is more intense now than when your husband took office.
BUSH: And maybe that's also because the Congress is so evenly divided.
O'REILLY: There is political fighting, but I think a lot of it's social. I mean, you've got these issues like gay marriage and pledge of allegiance under god, which split the country, even though the polls say that most Americans come down on the traditional side on all of these issues. The media portrays it as that's not the way it is.
BUSH: You gave me a really great idea. Maybe it is the media that has us divided.
O'REILLY: I don't think that's far out. I mean, I think the media is very polarized itself. Look at the attacks on this network, and you know, we strike back. But the European press is brutal on your husband and it's brutal on America. France is not our friend anymore, I mean, as far as what their actions are. They may say they are. And I'm not sure why that is happening. Is it all about Iraq?
BUSH: Well, no, I don't think it's all about Iraq. I think part of it is envy. I think it's also partly because we are the only superpower left. You know, it's no longer the Russians and us. You know, we have such a preeminent role in the world. And you know, we're affluent. I think they look at that — no, Europe isn't. Europe certainly is too. But I don't think it's Iraq.
O'REILLY: Do you talk policy with your husband?
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: You do.
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: So you get in there and you say — because I know you disagree on issues with him...
BUSH: No, I mean, we don't have debates. I don't really feel like I have to have a debate with my husband over issues. But we talk about issues, we talk about people, we talk about personalities. George is a very good reader of people, and he's very perceptive about people, and you know, that's fine.
I mean, it's fun for us to talk about issues. You know, there's no one issue we spend a lot of time on probably, because he gets to do that all day with somebody else who's a lot more expert at issues than I am.
O'REILLY: Does he ask your opinion on issues?
BUSH: Sure.
O'REILLY: You know, so he says... and so you're like a consigliore.
BUSH: No, I don't think so.
O'REILLY: What do you think about gay marriage, or what do you think about this, or what do you think about that... does he ask you...
BUSH: More of a sounding board, is that what you mean?
O'REILLY: Yeah.
BUSH: Yeah, possibly, sure.
O'REILLY: But you can't ever say, can you?
BUSH: Say publicly if it's different from him?
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: You know, sure, I could. You know, I could say it if I wanted what I thought to be the debate, publicly. But that, you know, he's the one whose name is on the ballot. He's the one who's sitting in the Oval Office, and I'm not. So, you know, I don't really feel like I have to say
what I think about every issue that is different from what he thinks.
O'REILLY: For the first time, your daughters are in the public eye, you know. And I mean, they're stars in the sense of the tabloid press because they're very pretty and people are interested in them. Two-edge sword here, right?
BUSH: It is. And we're actually thrilled. We're thrilled that they want to be involved in this campaign. It's fun for us to have them when we travel, have them with us. Jenna's traveled with me; they've both traveled with their dad. This is the only time they've been old enough in all of
their dad's campaigns to really be involved in.
I think they're actually having a good time. They've traveled with us. They've traveled separately. They've done separate events, separate campaign events in Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and Florida, and then they go to the headquarters. I think they're doing a weekly blog on the Web site about what their events are that week and what they've done. And they've written letters. They've written e-mails to supporters.
O'REILLY: So they're going to be busy in the next three months.
BUSH: So they're busy. They're very busy, and they're having a really good time. And it's been very fun and, actually, relaxing for us to have them on the trail.
O'REILLY: But you've had to sit them down and say, "You'd better behave, because if you do anything..." and they'll make it up even if you don't do it, you know.
BUSH: Well, I mean, if they do anything, like one of them has already done, the sticking out the tongue that Jenna did, you know, that makes the newspaper.
O'REILLY: Sure.
BUSH: And she turned around to her dad and said, "I just stuck my tongue out." And he said, "Well, Jenna, it will be in the paper tomorrow."
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: So they're learning. You know, they know. But there's a lot of scrutiny, and there is a lot of interest. People are interested. They want to know what family members are like.
O'REILLY: Have you given them any advice?
BUSH: Yes, I laughingly said — I told them to keep their hair out of their eyes and stand up straight, which is making me sit up straight.
O'REILLY: That's what you told them, "Keep your hair out of your eyes and sit up straight?"
BUSH: I didn't think to tell them, "Don't' stick your tongue out at the press."
O'REILLY: How about dating and things like that? Have you given them advice there?
BUSH: Not really, not that much. They're great girls. They're very funny, they're very smart, they're fun to be with. They're very lively, as I think people can tell. And you know, they're very confident girls.
O'REILLY: Did you see the Kerry girls at the Democratic Convention?
BUSH: I didn't, but I heard they were great.
O'REILLY: There was a hamster story...
BUSH: I have read the hamster story.
O'REILLY: Did the president ever save a hamster?
BUSH: Did he ever give a hamster mouth to mouth? I don't think so.
O'REILLY: I think people would be very interested in your day, what you do at the White House when you're there. Just go through your day for us if you would.
BUSH: Well, we wake up early. We always get up about 5:30, and George gets up and goes in and gets the coffee and brings it to me, and that's been our ritual since we got married. And we read the newspapers in bed and drink coffee for about an hour probably, read our briefing papers.
And then, we eat breakfast, and he goes to work at seven. And I workout, if I have a chance, if I'm at home at the White House, in the morning. When he leaves, I'll go to the gym upstairs. We have a little gym. And then, I go to work. If I'm just at the White House, I have meetings in my office, I sign letters, I plan different things. Late in the afternoon, I'll quit working and wait for my husband to get home.
O'REILLY: Did you watch Teresa Heinz Kerry's speech at the Democratic Convention?
BUSH: No.
O'REILLY: You didn't. It was an interesting speech. I don't quite know what she said, but she's a very flamboyant woman. Last night, she was confronted with some hecklers, some pro-Bush hecklers that were going, "Four more years," and she said, "Four more years of hell. Do you want four more years of hell?" How would you react to that?
BUSH: Well, of course, I don't like that. But you know, it's not easy when your husband runs for president. I mean, it's not easy for me. I'm sure it's not easy for her. There's a lot of scrutiny on families that isn't always wanted. And I think those sort of reactions, it's not easy to be heckled — you know, no one likes that.
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: And so, I can understand how her reactions would be like they are.
O'REILLY: You don't really like this, do you?
BUSH: I do actually really like it.
O'REILLY: Do you really?
BUSH: I like politics. I like traveling in the United States. Politics is a people business. I like people. I love to hear the stories of different Americans, which I have the opportunity to do if I travel.
O'REILLY: Did you grow into the job, because you're on record as saying, "You know, I really didn't..."
BUSH: Well, you know, what I know about...
O'REILLY: It's pretty dirty.
BUSH: ... I mean, the part you don't like, I mean, that's the only part. That's the part no one likes, and that is the criticisms, and the unfair criticisms, I might add, of my husband. But that's also just a fact of life in politics.
O'REILLY: Now, your mother in law, Barbara Bush, she took that personally, remember? Do you take it personally too when they...
BUSH: Sure, sometimes, absolutely.
O'REILLY: What do you do?
BUSH: Nothing.
O'REILLY: Do you call them up and yell?
BUSH: No.
O'REILLY: No, you just go...
BUSH: Of course not.
O'REILLY: Yeah.
BUSH: You know, I mean, it's just, you really do become — maybe I should say not inured to it, but almost.
O'REILLY: Numb.
BUSH: Because there's so much of it. You know, it's not easy. It's not easy to have the job of president. It's not easy to run for it. And it's not a job for the feint of heart.
O'REILLY: What do you think of the media in America?
BUSH: I mean, I think there are a lot of reasons to be critical of the media in America. I think a lot of times, the media sensationalizes or magnifies things that really shouldn't be, different issues maybe or different opinions more than reporting. I do think there's a big move away
from actual reporting, trying to report facts. And you know, it's in newspapers and everything you read that a lot more is opinion.
And a lot of words... it's very, you know, I'm interested in words, I'm interested in language. I'm a librarian. I'm a big reader and I see words that are actually subjective in a lot of news accounts.
O'REILLY: What do you think of Hollywood? They're taking a great delight in bashing the Bush family.
BUSH: Not every one of them. There are a few...
O'REILLY: About 80 percent of them.
BUSH: Exactly. You know, I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry about that. I don't like that, because there are a lot of people whose works I admire as actors or actresses, or musicians. And you know, I've been a big fan of different musicians or actors.
O'REILLY: When you go out on the campaign trail, you're going to be treated with dignity. I mean, we were talking before the interview and I said, you know, I can't give you a hard time. I mean, it'd cut my own throat. That's ridiculous. You're the first lady. You're entitled to
respect. You're entitled to be treated in a certain way. But they're also going to, you know, criticize...
BUSH: Criticized...
O'REILLY: ... behind your back, never to your face — behind your back. How do you process that?
BUSH: No one likes to be criticized. And, of course, one thing we criticize women about more, I think, or the wives of candidates or the wives of presidents, is the way they look.
O'REILLY: Right.
BUSH: And that's not really very fair. And, of course, no one likes that.
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I don't know about ownage. She seemed like a perfectly average president's wife. She didn't say anything great; she didn't say anything terrible. |
That makes her smarter than the scumbags wife right there. The scumbags wife is a nut job and will have more influence than the hillary loser did back in the dark years, under clinton
The scumbags wife is a full blown, old money nut job.
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Laura Bush interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. No wonder a conservative would say it "owned".
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 16:30 Post subject:
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| Leilu wrote: | Hahaha Frehya.
I'd much rather have her as president than her husband! What I don't understand is how any homosexual can be a republican. Isn't that like a black man joining the KKK?
I don't get it. |
LOL, you sure don't. The two homosexuals I know and still have contact with since I retired are stone republicans. Whenever we meet up at parties or for drinks, a bunch of retired cops, I bust their balls about their man loving activities. They take it and give bust my chops right back. But, that has nothing to do on where they feel the country would go under the scumbag liberals rule.
Being a homosexual has nothing to do with how smart you are and we all know democrats are overly emotional idiots.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 16:32 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | That makes her smarter than the scumbags wife right there. The scumbags wife is a nut job and will have more influence than the hillary loser did back in the dark years, under clinton
The scumbags wife is a full blown, old money nut job. |
That's quite possible actually. I don't know if she's an actual nut job or not, but some people who have had a lot of money for a long time have a tendency to think they can say whatever they want and people will just deal with it because they have to. She could cost him the election if she gets out of control.
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 16:37 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | That makes her smarter than the scumbags wife right there. The scumbags wife is a nut job and will have more influence than the hillary loser did back in the dark years, under clinton
The scumbags wife is a full blown, old money nut job. |
That's quite possible actually. I don't know if she's an actual nut job or not, but some people who have had a lot of money for a long time have a tendency to think they can say whatever they want and people will just deal with it because they have to. She could cost him the election if she gets out of control. |
Wow, we agree. I spend time with people who could buy and sell me 1000 times over. They are ALL nuts.
The hiltons in particular. I won't even say what happened at the airport the other day and what was not reported:)
The scumbags wife is not good for him, thats great for me.
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 16:50 Post subject:
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I simply find Laura to be a very classy, respectable, strong woman who is NOT a nut-job.
Lulu... Kbarr summed it up nicely.. Who I f**k has nothing to do with my political views. I choose to think for myself instead of just go with what every other gay person does or says.. Sorry for being an independent thinker /shrug
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 17:28 Post subject:
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Although I agree that Laura Bush > Teresa Kerry, I don't really think it matters who the first lady is really, even though Teresa is a trashy low class piece of shit 
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 19:12 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | Who I f**k has nothing to do with my political views. I choose to think for myself instead of just go with what every other gay person does or says.. Sorry for being an independent thinker /shrug |
You know, Abi.... I respect you for your political stance which is admittedly difficult to keep but can you please drop the I'm-a-gay-Republican-therefore-I'm-not-a-sheep attitude?
-Nah-
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Abi
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 19:19 Post subject:
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I would if I felt it wasn't true. I truly believe the majority of Gay Americans blindly follow the Democratic party simply because it's expected. (Hence sheep)
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 22:04 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | Who I f**k has nothing to do with my political views. I choose to think for myself instead of just go with what every other gay person does or says.. Sorry for being an independent thinker /shrug |
You know, Abi.... I respect you for your political stance which is admittedly difficult to keep but can you please drop the I'm-a-gay-Republican-therefore-I'm-not-a-sheep attitude?
-Jesus!- |
LOL, but all republicans are closed minded?
lol, you are all IDIOTS, f*****g DEMOCRATS!
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Posted: 08/04/04 - 23:35 Post subject:
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I will also stipulate to the fact that Laura>Theresa
Won't sway my vote though sorry
beacause i think Kerry's daughters > Bush's
its a draw
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 10:50 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | I would if I felt it wasn't true. I truly believe the majority of Gay Americans blindly follow the Democratic party simply because it's expected. (Hence sheep) |
My point is... They don't accept you. Don't respect you. And sure as hell don't think you should have the same rights as other Americans.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 10:54 Post subject:
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| Leilu wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I would if I felt it wasn't true. I truly believe the majority of Gay Americans blindly follow the Democratic party simply because it's expected. (Hence sheep) |
My point is... They don't accept you. Don't respect you. And sure as hell don't think you should have the same rights as other Americans. |
Don't speak for others, c**t.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:05 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Leilu wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I would if I felt it wasn't true. I truly believe the majority of Gay Americans blindly follow the Democratic party simply because it's expected. (Hence sheep) |
My point is... They don't accept you. Don't respect you. And sure as hell don't think you should have the same rights as other Americans. |
Don't speak for others, c**t. |
Oooo a clever and witty fellow! My favorite.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:07 Post subject:
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| Leilu wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Leilu wrote: | | Abi wrote: | | I would if I felt it wasn't true. I truly believe the majority of Gay Americans blindly follow the Democratic party simply because it's expected. (Hence sheep) |
My point is... They don't accept you. Don't respect you. And sure as hell don't think you should have the same rights as other Americans. |
Don't speak for others, c**t. |
Oooo a clever and witty fellow! My favorite. |
I save my wit for those capable of grasping it. I save "c**t" for you.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:09 Post subject:
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Hey let’s be honest both sides have people that dislike or disapprove of gay Americans and even minorities. But you need to look at what most common American’s see and hear.
They turn on the TV and see more Republicans say they are against gay marriage and their lifestyle does it means most democrats approve? No but they keep it quiet and many even pretend to tolerate it.
Being black I have seen the same thing. You know how many white people, who get to know me say, you’re not like other blacks I know. They think they are paying me a complement but they are not. They are showing me they stereotype blacks and I must be one of the good ones.
The same goes with gays they many speak tolerance and acceptance but say keep it out of my face or don’t come to my club or neighborhood. People with some intelligence can see this and this is why they won’t 100% support any one party.
You must pick and choose as you go along and read and learn as much as you can so you can get the people you want in office regardless of their party affiliation.
This is why neither “side” will win out totally the world will continue to change and progress regardless of who is in office. It will take time but the world moves without boundaries and no party and change its course.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:27 Post subject:
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I don't think "acceptance" comes from being liberal or conservative, or democrat or republican, except for the conservative fringe who's against everything different, and the liberal fringe who are for anything different.
I think it comes down to a question of self confidence. The people I know who are confident and successful really could not give a damn if you're white or black, straight or gay. These are the people who are convinced that you could take away all their money and assets, and they'd make their life all over again, without skipping a beat. They care what you can do, not what you look like or who you sleep with. They don't have time for petty shit; they've got stuff to accomplish.
The people who are insecure, who think that they made their money through luck, or family contacts, or because they just barely beat somebody else out for it but they could lose it at any time and then they'd be screwed, tend to be much less tolerant of people. They're always trying to define groups that include them but exclude others, always trying to be recognized as part of the in crowd or whatever because it gives them that extra margin of security or confidence.
So I don't really see it as a liberal/conservative thing. I see it as a "how do you feel about yourself" thing.
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:27 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | I save my wit for those capable of grasping it. I save "c**t" for you. |
Wow you saved me my very own word! It's kind of like "honey" or "sweetie".
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:42 Post subject:
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| Leilu wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | I save my wit for those capable of grasping it. I save "c**t" for you. |
Wow you saved me my very own word! It's kind of like "honey" or "sweetie". |
Yeah! Or "c**t"!
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:46 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Leilu wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | I save my wit for those capable of grasping it. I save "c**t" for you. |
Wow you saved me my very own word! It's kind of like "honey" or "sweetie". |
Yeah! Or "c**t"! |
Confused is a class act.
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Abi
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 11:46 Post subject:
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First off Confused . Kindly fuckoff and die for calling my lulu a c**t.. She is VERY CLEARLY a b***h and a good un!!! I <3 yew lulu!!!
Reebo summed it up nicely, I think..
Basically I don't feel the Republican party doesn't want me to have the same rights as everyone else, they simply want to protect their own seperate but equal rights. Bush has even said he would support seperate but equal civil unions. The problem is Gay's are so caught up in "fighting for equal rights" they lose site of the big picture. WHO CARES if Gay's can't get "married" in the traditional sense as long as the local, state or federal Gov't provides for an equal civil union. I think the majority of Gays are approaching the entire situation wrong. Focus your energy on establishing a seperate but equal civil union and leave traditional marriage alone and I guarantee the Republican party will support it 100%.
As I've said before. I would prefer to have someone tell me they don't agree with my lifestyle but will fight to the death for my right to live it the way I want to (read: Republicans) than someone pretend to like me but never do ANYTHING to really help me (read: Democrats)
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Posted: 08/05/04 - 12:07 Post subject:
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I see your point Abi but consider this, people thought and some still do that black people aren’t worth a full person what was it 3/5's a person. What if they said that black people could only have civil unions?
People will argue that race and your **** orientation much be considered separately but I can see why some gays would be upset of their bond being called something different than others.
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