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 Posted: 01/26/06 - 13:53 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | | Who has a better military is debatable on so many different levels. The US military is like The Syndicate (to break it down into EQ terms). They have the most, therefore they must be the best? |
Wouldn't China be the Syndicate then???
| Quote: | | Canadian pilots are some of the best trained in the world, yet our airforce is weaker than the states due to sheer numbers. |
Don't forget technology. Numbers is part of military strength, so how does that make the point mute?
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Bono
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 13:54 Post subject:
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| Zimzulu wrote: | No you are our neighbors. We own Canada, we just rent it out. We've let you have it for so long that you think you actually own it. Please don't make us evict you  . |
| Quote: | | The War of 1812 is one of the forgotten wars of the United States. The war lasted for over two years, and while it ended much like it started; in stalemate; it was in fact a war that once and for all confirmed American Independence. The offensive actions of the United States failed in every attempt to capture Canada. |
History doesn't lie. 
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Zimzulu
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 13:56 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | Who has a better military is debatable on so many different levels. The US military is like The Syndicate (to break it down into EQ terms). They have the most, therefore they must be the best?
Canadian pilots are some of the best trained in the world, yet our airforce is weaker than the states due to sheer numbers.
You can argue back and forth which is better 'til you're blue in the face, the correct answer is there is no "best" military in the world, just different levels of training, recruitment, and/or preparedness. |
I almost stopped reading your post after the first sentence because you lost all credibility. We don't have the most, not even close. Even though you have proved you're an idiot I kept reading (yes it hurt).
Canada has the best trained pilots in the world. Cool I can go to all the training classes on any subject I want to, it won't make me an expert it'll just make me overly trained.
Until you are in dogfights or dropping bombs and running sortis you cant prove shit. You can have really cool air show tho, NEAT. America hasn't lost a plane in a dogfight since I believe Korea (it could be farther back, correct me if I'm wrong), and don't think countries haven't tried to fight for the sky. They do but it is futile.
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Bono
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 13:58 Post subject:
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China is larger based on population, not people enlisted in military service. The discussion was military power, not population.
As for numbers, I won't disagree. But, on a 1 to 1 level, our pilots are better trained, it's a fact. But, in a you versus us fight, we would lose due to the numbers game. Like I said, it's a trade off.
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Zimzulu
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 13:58 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | | Zimzulu wrote: | | No you are our neighbors. We own Canada, we just rent it out. We've let you have it for so long that you think you actually own it. Please don't make us evict you . |
| Quote: | | The War of 1812 is one of the forgotten wars of the United States. The war lasted for over two years, and while it ended much like it started; in stalemate; it was in fact a war that once and for all confirmed American Independence. The offensive actions of the United States failed in every attempt to capture Canada. |
History doesn't lie. |
Since you want to relate shit back to EQ. Everyone starts out the same level on a new server. Canada isn't hard core. US is, we joined ED; you became a crafter.
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RealPoor Guru
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 14:01 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | | The War of 1812 is one of the forgotten wars of the United States. The war lasted for over two years, and while it ended much like it started; in stalemate; it was in fact a war that once and for all confirmed American Independence. The offensive actions of the United States failed in every attempt to capture Canada. |
Correct, we couldn't capture Canada, which was being defended by the British Military, the world power at the time. It's not like today's french-Canadians were defending it, b/c we all know how that would have ended.
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 14:04 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | China is larger based on population, not people enlisted in military service. The discussion was military power, not population.
As for numbers, I won't disagree. But, on a 1 to 1 level, our pilots are better trained, it's a fact. But, in a you versus us fight, we would lose due to the numbers game. Like I said, it's a trade off. |
.........doesn't China have a million man standing army??
No where did anyone here at any time mention a 1 on 1 fight. Thats not how militarys fight wars. Your point is mute.
edit: just found this on google
| Quote: | China is continuing the process of reducing the size of its army. The 500,000-man force reduction currently underway will streamline the force and facilitate funding to equip its "core" infantry, airborne, mechanized and aviation units with more advanced weapons. The army is supported by a large reserve-militia force numbering more than 1.5 million personnel and a one million man armed police force.
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Zimzulu
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 14:06 Post subject:
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| Pags wrote: | | Bono wrote: | | The War of 1812 is one of the forgotten wars of the United States. The war lasted for over two years, and while it ended much like it started; in stalemate; it was in fact a war that once and for all confirmed American Independence. The offensive actions of the United States failed in every attempt to capture Canada. |
Correct, we couldn't capture Canada, which was being defended by the British Military, the world power at the time. It's not like today's french-Canadians were defending it, b/c we all know how that would have ended.
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1776 We become a Country. We are getting shit settled, making a country takes work and time. Thats why people who say LOOK AT IRAQ ITS SO BAD THERE are idiots. Yet still in 1812 The country we beat is p****d at us but we still go after them, sure we dont win but neither do they. To prove our country was in strife and still managed to won britian lets look forward. 1860's we had an in house brawl to settle that shit. From then on its just domination, except where we made ethical choices not to blow azns off the map.
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Ishmael
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 14:24 Post subject:
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This is the most retarded f*****g thread I've ever read. I just got done reading "who r u ppl" for christs sake. C'mon, you facgs can do better than this.
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 15:35 Post subject:
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| Zrazzt wrote: | We still have less crime per capita...
Who's system works better? The one with more crime, or the one with less.
It's not about guns, its about social upbringing, deterents, and attitude. |
LOL
How stupid are you?
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 15:37 Post subject:
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| Zrazzt wrote: | Khrath,
America is like the queen for sure, but more like the queen at the gay parade who makes the specticle of themselves.
America isn't the star of planet earth, only americans think that.
You have the best military, that's it (and even that is debateable). China could ruin your country in 20 minutes without ever launching a single nuke, or fire a single bullet.
Once BRIC or any other of the big global alliances start becoming established, the fact that you've p****d off a lot of other countries will flex their muscle. Karma always goes 360. |
LOL
Amazing.
How stupid are you again?
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 15:40 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | Who has a better military is debatable on so many different levels. The US military is like The Syndicate (to break it down into EQ terms). They have the most, therefore they must be the best?
Canadian pilots are some of the best trained in the world, yet our airforce is weaker than the states due to sheer numbers.
You can argue back and forth which is better 'til you're blue in the face, the correct answer is there is no "best" military in the world, just different levels of training, recruitment, and/or preparedness.
As for the border guards, well, they abandoned their post, I'd probably write them up, and likely suspend them. They knew that this kind of situation could happen when they were on duty, no matter how unlikely, they needed to keep their heads about them and do their jobs. Yes, it turned into a debacle, and yes, the Washington state law enforcement handled it swiftly. It's over now, and the only shame involved is if nothing is learned from it. |
canada is a joke.
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 15:41 Post subject:
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| Bono wrote: | China is larger based on population, not people enlisted in military service. The discussion was military power, not population.
As for numbers, I won't disagree. But, on a 1 to 1 level, our pilots are better trained, it's a fact. But, in a you versus us fight, we would lose due to the numbers game. Like I said, it's a trade off. |
Idiot.
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Occulis
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 15:44 Post subject:
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n-e-wun seen that horze in the jake movie w/ the oil rigs n shit
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Desaitar
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 16:48 Post subject:
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lol i was just about to ask wheres kbarr, but he came in at the end =p
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 16:49 Post subject:
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| Desaitar wrote: | | lol i was just about to ask wheres kbarr, but he came in at the end =p |
All he did was say what I did, in fewer words.
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 19:52 Post subject:
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| Pags wrote: | | Desaitar wrote: | | lol i was just about to ask wheres kbarr, but he came in at the end =p |
All he did was say what I did, in fewer words. |
17, give or take.
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 20:12 Post subject:
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| Zimzulu wrote: | | except where we made ethical choices not to blow azns off the map. |
So true. If i was in charge back then we would still own germany and japan. Russia would have been left for Patton.
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Yellow Journalist
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Posted: 01/26/06 - 23:07 Post subject:
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Bono Said,
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Canadian pilots are some of the best trained in the world, yet our airforce is weaker than the states due to sheer numbers.
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As for numbers, I won't disagree. But, on a 1 to 1 level, our pilots are better trained, it's a fact. But, in a you versus us fight, we would lose due to the numbers game. Like I said, it's a trade off.
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The Israeli airforce is the top notch airforce as far as skilled pilots goes. Who trained them????? The United States did.Who fueled their military/Air assets? The United States did.
and Zrazzt you have so many misconceptions about American history and the American military I wouldnt know where to begin.
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Exalted
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 00:48 Post subject:
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[quote="kbarr"] | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should.[/quo
PUNK!!!!
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 01:34 Post subject:
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[quote="Exalted"] | kbarr wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should.[/quo
PUNK!!!! |
haha, a canadian
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 02:14 Post subject:
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lol, ex cops.
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 02:19 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | | lol, ex cops. |
No such thing really.
When you get down to it.
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Exalted
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 02:28 Post subject:
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[quote="kbarr"] | Exalted wrote: | | kbarr wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should.[/quo
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haha, a canadian |
And proud to be one thanks.
PUNK !!!
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 02:47 Post subject:
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[quote="Exalted"] | kbarr wrote: | | Exalted wrote: | | kbarr wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should.[/quo
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haha, a canadian |
And proud to be one thanks.
PUNK !!! |
No one accused you of being smart.
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Samiam
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 03:18 Post subject:
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| kbarr wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should. |
Why, because you say I should? Their being hispanic and arabic affects this how? They become unamerican gun-toting dumbfucks driving from the U.S. to Canada obviously because they brought their guns from hispania and arabia to the U.S. first?
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kbarr
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 04:35 Post subject:
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| Samiam wrote: | | kbarr wrote: | | Samiam wrote: | I agree. It is pretty ridiculous that Canadian customs agents don't really have the means to protect their country from the lawless "I have the constitutional right to bear an automatic weapon", gun-toting dumbfucks that are being manufactured by the millions south of the border.
The Canadian border guards are "armed" with pepper spray and batons. If they'd have been issued hockey sticks, who knows, they might have stuck around. |
Um....the perps were hispanic and arabic. Both are suspected of being illegal aliens. They were wanted for the murder of a cab driver.
The only people there with legal guns were the sheriffs that saved the wimp canadians lives.
Who knows, maybe they jumped the border from canada...
Now, don't you feel stupid?
You should. |
Why, because you say I should? Their being hispanic and arabic affects this how? They become unamerican gun-toting dumbfucks driving from the U.S. to Canada obviously because they brought their guns from hispania and arabia to the U.S. first?
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Yes, because I said you should.
Think it over.
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Maharat RakAshir
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Canadians follow the US lead to conservatism
| Quote: | TORONTO - President Bush telephoned Canada's Prime Minister-designate Stephen Harper on Wednesday to congratulate him on his victory in parliamentary elections as ties between the world's largest trading partners were expected to improve
The Conservative leader's win in Monday's vote ended nearly 13 years of Liberal Party rule that saw strained U.S.-Canadian relations as outgoing Prime Minister Paul Martin and his predecessor, Jean Chretien, opposed the war in Iraq and other Bush administration positions.
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| Quote: | | Harper criticized his country for not joining the United States and Britain in the Iraq war and his ideology runs parallel to that of the Bush administration. But the 46-year-old economist failed to win a majority and will be constrained in his policies by the need for an alliance to push through legislation, which could limit his ability to move Canada to the right. |
So, where will the poor liberals run to now? I guess they could all go to France where they can also b***h about independant charaties serving Pork Soup
It's about time our territory in the north gets itself together and follow's their masters lead.
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Zrazzt
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 10:01 Post subject:
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Kbarr,
You calling me an idiot, does not make it so.
I know for a fact that I'm smarter than you, I'm more than likely more attractive than you, and frankly, you're primitive views about the world outside your bubble are limited, and quite hilarious. It's unfortunate that you didn't die in a parachuting accident so your glory days would be remembered in song in that garbage military of yours. It amuses me that you pride yourself on such a trivial accomplishment.
Yellow Jacket,
I don't care about the US military, nor any military. Wow, it takes a lot of skill to fire a gun, or to run around killing people. Hoorah. See, I can be a marine as well.
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Zrazzt
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Posted: 01/27/06 - 10:07 Post subject:
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Maharat,
The conservatives won a narrow victory, and are a minority government, meaning that they will have a tight leash.
Religion will still be outlawed from school (most Canadians are non-religious... rightfully so, religion is the refuge of the feeble minded)
We won't go to war, since that would spell the end of the conservative reign instantly.
Gay Marriage will still be legal, or again their reign would end.
So what are the conservatives going to do differently in the next 4 years to keep in government? Anything society says, and since we're a liberal society, they aren't going to go all "bush" on us... or they'll be out in 6 months.
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