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Majy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:24 Post subject: Kerry by a landslide?
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An interesting article that explains a lot of things I've been discussing with teachers and friends alike better than I can:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.todd.html
| Quote: | | The historical pattern may strongly suggest that if Kerry wins, it will be by large margins--but that is hardly fated. It will only happen if Kerry successfully highlights Bush's failings while showing himself to be an appealing alternative. Otherwise, the senator could see himself losing an electoral rout, not winning in one |
As an added personal note, I think Kerry has certainly done a good job showing where Bush has failed, and there is no doubt that many consider him an appealing alternative. My personal prediction is we'll see a lot of Republican senators and the like heading into the booth, voting Kerry, and walking out saying "Yup, I voted Bush." Also, this article doesn't mention anything about the younger, unpolled population. Check with colleges and you'll find the vast majority eager to vote, and to vote for Kerry. Lastly, all educated teachers, police, and firemen will certainly go Kerry, along with probably all unions.
Kerry may very well win by a landslide... of course as the article states it could go either way, but I just find a lot of you thinking it's a close race, and it may very well not be. Read up though, it's good stuff.
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Frax
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:25 Post subject:
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This poll, says no: Kerry Vs Bush
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Majy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:34 Post subject:
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The polls are skewed you retard. Why don't you educate yourself and do some research on how the polls are done.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:36 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | The polls are skewed you retard. Why don't you educate yourself and do some research on how the polls are done. |
But..the realpoor poll? Our vocal people are pretty well 50/50 on here.
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Majy
RealPoor Sensei

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:38 Post subject:
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I don't think he was talking about the realpoor poll. I wouldn't exactly Realpoor a fair representation of registered voters.
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Scrabler
RealPoor Guru

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:39 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | I don't think he was talking about the realpoor poll. I wouldn't exactly Realpoor a fair representation of registered voters. |
Well he linked the realpoor poll. shrug.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:42 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | I don't think he was talking about the realpoor poll. I wouldn't exactly Realpoor a fair representation of registered voters. |
Well he linked the realpoor poll. shrug. |
Indeed, didn't catch that. Well my point still stands.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:48 Post subject:
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I just don't think Kerry presents himself as an appealing alternative to Bush. I don't think he brings enough to the table to convince America that it's a good time for a regime change.
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Frax
RealPoor Master of Posts

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:59 Post subject:
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Mainly because thats really his only message SM. Perhaps we do need a new president, but Hanoi John isn't it.
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Merican
Sir Postalot

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 18:19 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Mainly because thats really his only message SM. Perhaps we do need a new president, but Hanoi John isn't it. |
this made me lol irl
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themy
Sir Postalot

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 19:07 Post subject:
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you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:04 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:08 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
He clearly doesn't give a shit about alot of things going on.
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Scrabler
RealPoor Guru

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:10 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
Teachers don't hate Bush; most (all but 1) of the teachers I know are voting Bush again this year. Most teachers in the country tend to be liberals though but thank God I live in a 70%+ Republican state(85%+ county I believe).
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Majy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:15 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
Teachers don't hate Bush; most (all but 1) of the teachers I know are voting Bush again this year. Most teachers in the country tend to be liberals though but thank God I live in a 70%+ Republican state(85%+ county I believe). |
Thank god for the uneducated South.
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Scrabler
RealPoor Guru

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:18 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
Teachers don't hate Bush; most (all but 1) of the teachers I know are voting Bush again this year. Most teachers in the country tend to be liberals though but thank God I live in a 70%+ Republican state(85%+ county I believe). |
Thank god for the uneducated South. |
It must suck knowing that the uneducated AWM runs the world huh?
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Manuva
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 22:41 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
With 2 parents, 2 siblings, 1 cousin and 4 aunts/uncles being teachers, I can vouch for this.
All of them are voting for Kerry because they feel f****d by Bush and the "No Child Left Behind" act, except for my sister. She's only voting for Bush because she thinks she's some kind of f*****g born again Christian (whose holy water is Natural Light...) and she's afraid that if Kerry wins that gays will be free to get married.
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Majy
RealPoor Sensei

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Posted: 10/18/04 - 23:44 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
With 2 parents, 2 siblings, 1 cousin and 4 aunts/uncles being teachers, I can vouch for this.
All of them are voting for Kerry because they feel f****d by Bush and the "No Child Left Behind" act, except for my sister. She's only voting for Bush because she thinks she's some kind of f*****g born again Christian (whose holy water is Natural Light...) and she's afraid that if Kerry wins that gays will be free to get married. |
lol @ your sister... and yea, I've talked to all my University teachers and my friends who have parents as teachers and they all say that Bush is a douche bag when it comes to education, which just happens to be a concern to them (surprise).
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themy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 23:45 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
no d*****s, teachers are democrats. this is a known fact. you have proven yourself to be a j*****s a thousand times, so i don't really give a shit what you think. also i do know politics, just that all the facts are against your ideas so you get all bitchy. go to the bathroom and change your plug, your p***y is leaking.
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themy
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 23:50 Post subject:
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not to mention, you created a post saying kerry by a landslide...and hrmm you say that i have proven myself to not be versed in politics. that's just funny. if anything the race will be close, but if people actually read into kerry's background it will be a landslide for bush.
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 23:53 Post subject:
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The great grey slug that mates while hanging from a line of its own mucous is cooler than you Themy
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Manuva
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 23:58 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
no d*****s, teachers are democrats. |
And?
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Rennol
RealPoor Guru

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Posted: 10/19/04 - 00:12 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
You have continuously proven that you're incompetent and not versed in politics at all. I don't even want to go into detail on why you're an idiot.
P.S. Teachers hate Bush, they hate his worthless "leave no child behind" crap, and his constant lies about how he cares about education when he clearly doesn't give a shit. |
With 2 parents, 2 siblings, 1 cousin and 4 aunts/uncles being teachers, I can vouch for this.
All of them are voting for Kerry because they feel f****d by Bush and the "No Child Left Behind" act, except for my sister. She's only voting for Bush because she thinks she's some kind of f*****g born again Christian (whose holy water is Natural Light...) and she's afraid that if Kerry wins that gays will be free to get married. |
lol
don't forget the restoration of Israel so the rapture or whatever can occur and they can go to heaven!!
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Qaldyin
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 01:02 Post subject:
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All those No Child Left Behind and state tests are a bunch of b******t. They don't help the kids one single bit, they are just used to rank schools. The higher the school's ranking the more money they get, which isn't much ANYWAY. Regardless, the good schools get more money to become even better, and the schools that actually NEED the improvement get shafted because the good schools sucked up most of the money with their high test grades.
I'd have to say though, the major problem with education in this country, especially in the south, is the quality of teachers. The more south you go, the shittier the schools get because the wages are low and noone wants to be a teacher when you are paid shit.
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Majy
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 01:03 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | not to mention, you created a post saying kerry by a landslide... |
Thanks for reading the article, it happens to be the title, douche.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 01:30 Post subject:
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| themy wrote: | | you are saying the polls are skewed, but your stupid article is not? umm have you even listened to anything going on about the politicians? if you had then you could obviously see that kerry has no platform whatsoever and that he is not reliable at all. even a hardcore democrat wouldn't actually want to vote for kerry, they just have to because they don't like bush. and seriously...you sit there and talk to f****n teachers abotu politics... of course they are going to say kerry will win, cause they are teachers. the only smart teachers anyways teach econ, and most of them vote repub. |
Not true. My English professor is absolutely brilliant.
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Manuva
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 08:27 Post subject:
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As was my astrology prof, who went to teaching at Kent State after retiring from 20+ years in the USMC.
When we had class Sept 12th, 2001, he showed up in camos. Was a riot.
My current calculus prof is brilliant as well, he's a retired air force pilot.
Actually it's funny, my most brilliant teachers all have one thing in common, careers in the military before they turned to teaching.
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themy
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
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| Jack Crow wrote: | The great grey slug that mates while hanging from a line of its own mucous is cooler than you Themy
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it takes 2 slugs to mate like that, and they are pretty cool. they spiral on the way down and then one flops down and the other climbs back up the mucus (that's actually how you spell it).
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themy
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 12:30 Post subject:
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| Majy wrote: | | themy wrote: | | not to mention, you created a post saying kerry by a landslide... |
Thanks for reading the article, it happens to be the title, douche. |
i don't read propoganda, sorry gimp. anything titled kerry by a landslide is not worth reading, but on a msg board you are just asking to be shit on. so, <plop>
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themy
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 12:31 Post subject:
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i was making a joke by saying only econ teachers are smart. of course the sciences and math depts will have some insanely brilliant people in them ;p
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