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merdocc
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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 Posted: 09/21/04 - 01:53 Post subject: Just curious how many people used a 3rd party program in EQ
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A lot of people on our server seemed to be ahead of the curve artificially.... I am just curious how many people actually use or used it. ShowEQ, Macroquest whateva!
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Merican
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 01:55 Post subject:
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i used ShowEQ for about a year and a half, then about 10months ago started to use MQ. I like ShowEQ better for a mobchecker but MQ has the EQplaynice thingy that makes it run smoother in it as well. so either way. Never ran macros, tried a couple, but was too hard for me hehe.
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Desaitar
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 02:02 Post subject:
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i used showeq a couple years ago
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Fanelien
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 02:14 Post subject:
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Yes, but I was doing programming at the time as well, so I was essentially customising MQ to my specifications, my MQ was always working, except for about 10 minutes after patches while I used my 3 pcs to find memory offsets.
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merdocc
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 02:21 Post subject:
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Yeah i figured out how to warp to places near the end.
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khrath
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 02:36 Post subject:
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Ashran = tarew marr, of course alot of f*****g people used 3rd party shit here =p
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Baha
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 04:39 Post subject:
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I don't but I know a lot of people that do
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Kurel
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Location: Cali
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 04:54 Post subject:
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I used ShowEQ for a while as a pull monk. Helped me with splitting mobs and knowing whats around the corner.
I also used radar in DAoC as an Infiltrator to pharm the l33t RP's.
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Merican
Sir Postalot
Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 05:09 Post subject:
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I was curious how to warp... how did u do that?
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Kintheris
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 05:15 Post subject:
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| Merican wrote: | | I was curious how to warp... how did u do that? |
There was/is a mod/plug-in wtf ever you want to call it that is by any other name essentially called megawarp. If you can find an updated .CPP you might be able to get it to work, I normally had someone compile it for me, and send me the DLL's and what not, and all you would do was in your MQ window was:
/mega y,x,z <that would take you to a location
/mega t <warp you to your target
/mega s <I believe was how to warp to succor spot in the zone
I enjoyed using MQ for the longest time playin a mage, made CoHing a breeze for the most part heh, warp to a loc, leave someone at Zone in as anchor, voila insta-CoH chain.
When I played Kinth, I used ShowEQ on occasion to hunt out mobs, or watch my pulling.
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Sabalo
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 05:24 Post subject:
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anyone from rp actually get banned for using 3rd party shit?
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khrath
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 05:48 Post subject:
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uglar =ppp
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Catranizi
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 07:43 Post subject:
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Every guild that are in the elemental planes are at least using ShowE. Too much time wasted if you don't use it, thanks stupid developer design team.
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Occulis
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:26 Post subject:
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| Kintheris wrote: | I enjoyed using MQ for the longest time playin a mage, made CoHing a breeze for the most part heh, warp to a loc, leave someone at Zone in as anchor, voila insta-CoH chain.
When I played Kinth, I used ShowEQ on occasion to hunt out mobs, or watch my pulling. |
If you went to the trouble of installing MQ and doing a very obvious warp exploit, why wouldn't you just /target across the zone? No need to leave an anchor.
I ran MQ, even without macros. The /face command is invaluable for facing, well, anything. In melee against 4+ mobs, chasing KEI'ers, finding rare spawns etc.
Other useful macros for at-present playing involved summoning 20 food and drink, making hotbuttons that would only cast Mind Wrack or drain mana type spells on caster NPCs (versus wasting 0.1 seconds seeing the "Your target has no mana to affect" msg), etc.
There are all sorts of things you can do with just a couple extra tools, none of which interfere with other players.
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Occulis
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:27 Post subject:
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I'd also like to add there wasn't 1 moment in ~50 hours of WoW playing I wished I had MQ.
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Frax
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:55 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | | Kintheris wrote: | I enjoyed using MQ for the longest time playin a mage, made CoHing a breeze for the most part heh, warp to a loc, leave someone at Zone in as anchor, voila insta-CoH chain.
When I played Kinth, I used ShowEQ on occasion to hunt out mobs, or watch my pulling. |
If you went to the trouble of installing MQ and doing a very obvious warp exploit, why wouldn't you just /target across the zone? No need to leave an anchor.
I ran MQ, even without macros. The /face command is invaluable for facing, well, anything. In melee against 4+ mobs, chasing KEI'ers, finding rare spawns etc.
Other useful macros for at-present playing involved summoning 20 food and drink, making hotbuttons that would only cast Mind Wrack or drain mana type spells on caster NPCs (versus wasting 0.1 seconds seeing the "Your target has no mana to affect" msg), etc.
There are all sorts of things you can do with just a couple extra tools, none of which interfere with other players. |
You still need to warp the mage to the COH spot or clear to there, which means you might as well not bother COHing:P
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Occulis
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:02 Post subject:
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Huh... If the /mega or whatever command would really warp you, you could transport anyone in the zone like this:
/mega X Y Z
/target Frax (from across the zone)
/cast "Call of the Hero"
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:15 Post subject:
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| Catranizi wrote: | | Every guild that are in the elemental planes are at least using ShowE. Too much time wasted if you don't use it, thanks stupid developer design team. |
was so much easier when it was only /pet attack soandso to see if it was up =(
Personally i never used anything but eqw.. did alot of ingame exploits but never 3rd party shit... ya tm is ahead cause we got volx and ashran here, really need to be usin seq to be even =/... not like it really matters, soe should have stopped making it retardedly hard and time consuming to check mobs if they didnt want people to exploit.
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Frax
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:27 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | Huh... If the /mega or whatever command would really warp you, you could transport anyone in the zone like this:
/mega X Y Z
/target Frax (from across the zone)
/cast "Call of the Hero" |
Yeah i know. But not having an anchor kind of implies that you are using MQ 
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:34 Post subject:
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its to bad soe is so dumb as to intentially put warping code like that into their game.
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Isriam
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 10:33 Post subject:
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MQ should have been installed into EQ. what the f**k, it was the best program ever created for EQ. aside from creating macro's to level yourself, it was invaluable.
buff timers, DPS logs, taunt/kick/slam/bash macro's, it rocked.
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Catranizi
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 10:45 Post subject:
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I don't think it's exactly a warp code...
If I remember correctly, the client send the coordinate where you are moving your character. Technically, items like doors, portals, walls and such are supposed to "stop" your character and need a server check to use them (can you open door, use portal, etc.). However, MQ tricks the server in letting it think that you validly moved your character as if there was no door, wall, z axis, etc.. Warping to different points in zone is just an extension of the server failing to make checks on the validity of a character movement.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 13:00 Post subject:
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| Catranizi wrote: | I don't think it's exactly a warp code...
If I remember correctly, the client send the coordinate where you are moving your character. Technically, items like doors, portals, walls and such are supposed to "stop" your character and need a server check to use them (can you open door, use portal, etc.). However, MQ tricks the server in letting it think that you validly moved your character as if there was no door, wall, z axis, etc.. Warping to different points in zone is just an extension of the server failing to make checks on the validity of a character movement. |
which is a direct offshoot of their patch fix on mob exploits like the pof tunnel spectres, when they added the code to let mobs warp i bet any money thats what lets players warp..
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Xieroth
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 13:06 Post subject:
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Guides and GM's can warp as well.
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Meeatsu
Sir Postalot
Joined: 10 Nov 2002
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Location: St. Louis, Mo
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 14:49 Post subject:
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ShowEQ and EQW here =x
ShowEQ I could of lived without but it was damn near neccessary for PoP, unless you enjoyed clearing to the PoAir/Earth mob triggers only to find out they arent up. Also playing EQ w/o EQWindows was like torture =/
Heh, warping mobs is fun. One time during one of TA's first AOW raids we didn't have a monk or SK on to pull vindi so we could get to Statue. So me and Vord did the monk-warp-pull-vindi thing. Vord pulled Vindi and his pets out past the icewall. When the pets warped back to the bridge I tagged Vindi solo off Vord's corpse it was neat =P
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Ruben
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 15:01 Post subject:
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I used ShowEQ for a while, EQW always, and MQ whenever Teh Fane would compile it for me since I fail at that ;(
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Starks
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 19:08 Post subject:
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3 of my friends just got banned for using MQ. They all got caught because of the targetting across the zone and the /face command.
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NinjaBurger
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 20:40 Post subject:
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| Starks wrote: | | 3 of my friends just got banned for using MQ. They all got caught because of the targetting across the zone and the /face command. |
I mean, don't make it f*****g blatant, christ.
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Zab
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 21:00 Post subject:
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Used ShowEQ for a long while. It was invaluable for finding mobs to raid and to see how far we had to go to a certain mob etc etc. Never really did MQ just out of laziness to figure it out. Ran SEQ on the laptop so never had to use EQW. Was really nice when looking for mobs to do on offnights when we werent raiding.
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Someone
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 22:36 Post subject:
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Nope.
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