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Occulis
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 Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:21 Post subject: Is the Christian God impartial?
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1) According to the King James Bible, Is the Christian God impartial?
This does not mean 'what do you think?' It means, "According to the bible... "
2) Regardless of what the bible says, do you believe the Christian God is impartial?
3) Is being impartial necessary to complete the definition of God?
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:23 Post subject:
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I refuse to do your homework.
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Occulis
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:34 Post subject:
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ur muh boy, bloo!
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gotissues68
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:36 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | | ur muh boy, bloo! |
bloo ur boy muh
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:52 Post subject: Re: Is the Christian God impartial?
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| Occulis wrote: | 1) According to the King James Bible, Is the Christian God impartial?
This does not mean 'what do you think?' It means, "According to the bible... "
2) Regardless of what the bible says, do you believe the Christian God is impartial?
3) Is being impartial necessary to complete the definition of God? |
On what? Everything? Impartial is a hard word to define based on your question. If God is supposed to make a judgement, and if the judgement results in a Pass or Fail. Then he must obviously in favor of people passing. If you're asking if people are judged based purely on pre-defined merits then I don't see how a Supreme Creator could be anything but impartial.
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kireol
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:56 Post subject:
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name 1 god that isnt impartial
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 01:57 Post subject:
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satan, he hates everyone equally.
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Isriam
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:04 Post subject:
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you can change gods mind. infact abraham did.
does that make him impartial?
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:08 Post subject:
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God is fake.
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Owyyn
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:09 Post subject:
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| Fattguyy wrote: | | God is fake. |
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Occulis
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:15 Post subject:
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Thanks for the "God is fake" comments. They're as useful as this conversation in which you are Joe:
Dave: "Hey, Joe. I need your perspective on something."
Joe: "Okay, shoot."
Dave: "Well, I think my brother cheats at tennis. Okay, let's pretend you're my brother and we're playing tennis."
Joe: "But I'm not your brother."
Dave: "Right, but just play along for a sec."
Joe: "I don't even play tennis."
Dave: *mental note: Ignore Joe*
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Owyyn
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:19 Post subject:
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Assuming god is fake, god cannot be impartial... he can't be anything.
The answer was there the whole time.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:27 Post subject:
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According to which testament, Occulis? In the Old Testament he's a very wrathful god who exacts retribution on those who drserve it, and profusely tests those who don't.
In the New Testament he takes a back seat to Jeasus who is quite the opposite.
-Nah-
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 02:34 Post subject:
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God's true name is Aaragornz
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 03:09 Post subject:
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God is fake.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 03:37 Post subject:
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| Isriam wrote: | you can change gods mind. infact abraham did.
does that make him impartial? |
Most religions seem to agree that human beings are allowed to make their own choices.
In specific regards to the Old Testament it seems as if God purposefully gave men free will & chooses not to use his powers to forsee what will happen to them. If both of these were true, then it would be possible to change God's mind, especially if his opinion was about humans.
It's late but the only time I can recall in the Bible where someone changes God's mind is during the plea to not destroy Sodom and Gomorrha.
P.S. What is the purpose of these "God is Fake" posts? His question is about the Christian God. If the Christian God is fake the questions can still be debated just the same. It would have no bearing on the answer.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 03:47 Post subject:
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Religon is just boring 
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Gethy
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 03:51 Post subject:
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You base your statement on opinion alone. In fact, nothing can be further from the truth.
If religion was all that boring, there wouldn't even have been people proclaiming, "God is dead;" if something is all that boring, why think about it in the first place?
Did your teacher just tell you about Sartre? Nietzsche? Camus? Or do none of those even ring a bell?
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Tura
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 03:53 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | | satan, he hates everyone equally. |
satan isn't a god. =p
According to the Bible, God openly rejects gays and lesbians in the old testament(Not to mention he was impartial toward everyone except 1 man and his family at one point*hence the flood*).
The New Testament laws are alot different from old testament though. After Jesus died on the cross that changed everything. If you recall Jesus died, went to hell and set the captives free. There was no more need to sacrafice lambs sheep or oxen seeing as how the ultimate price was paid. All sins before, during and after the crucifixion were covered by Jesus. So I guess the answer is yes for the old testament and no to impartiality in the new.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 04:02 Post subject:
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Nobody has the answers, and until we get a definitive answer we'll just have to sit here wondering.
For me, I hope there is some sort of pleasant afterlife, mostly because the idea of not existing somewhat shakes me, considering I've spent every second for the last 29 years being me! Then again, if there is no afterlife, I'll be dead and I won't care, anyway.
Most people need to believe in Final Justice. The prelate who is held back as his children's skulls are smashed against the wall by cruel centurions, grinds his teeth and spits curses through tears, hoping that they will be avenged somehow in another world. The woman who stares incredulously as her husband's murderer is acquitted can do nothing but pray that they burn for it in some sort of afterlife.
Without some sort of final justice, are life's horrors bearable?
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 04:32 Post subject:
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| Gethy wrote: | You base your statement on opinion alone. In fact, nothing can be further from the truth.
If religion was all that boring, there wouldn't even have been people proclaiming, "God is dead;" if something is all that boring, why think about it in the first place?
Did your teacher just tell you about Sartre? Nietzsche? Camus? Or do none of those even ring a bell? |
Boring.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 05:25 Post subject:
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God favored humans of all his creations. So no, he isn't.
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Tura
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 05:29 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | Nobody has the answers, and until we get a definitive answer we'll just have to sit here wondering.
For me, I hope there is some sort of pleasant afterlife, mostly because the idea of not existing somewhat shakes me, considering I've spent every second for the last 29 years being me! Then again, if there is no afterlife, I'll be dead and I won't care, anyway.
Most people need to believe in Final Justice. The prelate who is held back as his children's skulls are smashed against the wall by cruel centurions, grinds his teeth and spits curses through tears, hoping that they will be avenged somehow in another world. The woman who stares incredulously as her husband's murderer is acquitted can do nothing but pray that they burn for it in some sort of afterlife.
Without some sort of final justice, are life's horrors bearable? |
Well said.
That's what its all about, living, breathing, bleeding on this earth...knowing... that theres something better coming, but at the same time living life to its fullest. Experiencing things, learning for yourself and more importantly: deciding what you truly believe. I for one know there is a God by pure means of the way He has affected my life. Life can still suck at times of course, but its so much more meaningful to know something that many others don't or refuse to accept.
I try not to push it on others who don't want to hear it(mainly here) but this thread is titled right so =p
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Callaren
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 11:35 Post subject:
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| Owyyn wrote: | | Fattguyy wrote: | | God is fake. |
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Don't think he's really impartial if he came down and cast the 7 plagues upon mankind or whatever that shit was. And raining for 40 days and 40 nights. He would have let everyone go on their merry way of hating him if he was.
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Akronn
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 19:20 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | For me, I hope there is some sort of pleasant afterlife... |
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MrGigglePants
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 19:24 Post subject:
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| Akronn wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | For me, I hope there is some sort of pleasant afterlife... |
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Nahualli
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Posted: 03/18/05 - 21:50 Post subject:
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| Tura wrote: | | ATM Banana wrote: | | satan, he hates everyone equally. |
satan isn't a god. =p
According to the Bible, God openly rejects gays and lesbians in the old testament(Not to mention he was impartial toward everyone except 1 man and his family at one point*hence the flood*).
The New Testament laws are alot different from old testament though. After Jesus died on the cross that changed everything. If you recall Jesus died, went to hell and set the captives free. There was no more need to sacrafice lambs sheep or oxen seeing as how the ultimate price was paid. All sins before, during and after the crucifixion were covered by Jesus. So I guess the answer is yes for the old testament and no to impartiality in the new. |
Jesus f*****g christ you sound like a 3rd grade religion book
"Jesus went and set all the captives free"
Do you even KNOW what "impartial" means?
-Nah-
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Tura
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Posted: 03/19/05 - 02:08 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Tura wrote: | | ATM Banana wrote: | | satan, he hates everyone equally. |
satan isn't a god. =p
According to the Bible, God openly rejects gays and lesbians in the old testament(Not to mention he was impartial toward everyone except 1 man and his family at one point*hence the flood*).
The New Testament laws are alot different from old testament though. After Jesus died on the cross that changed everything. If you recall Jesus died, went to hell and set the captives free. There was no more need to sacrafice lambs sheep or oxen seeing as how the ultimate price was paid. All sins before, during and after the crucifixion were covered by Jesus. So I guess the answer is yes for the old testament and no to impartiality in the new. |
Jesus f---ing christ you sound like a 3rd grade religion book
"Jesus went and set all the captives free"
Do you even KNOW what "impartial" means?
-Nah- |
How else should I say it then? Its what happened, and its how it is written in the Bible. Sounds to me like you're taking offense Nah. And yes I do know what impartial means. If you weren't so stuck and offended on my Bible reference then mabey you would have read my post right.
| Quote: | Pronunciation: im-'pär-sh&l
Function: adjective
: not partial or biased : treating or affecting all equally |
After Jesus died the Bible says everyone(Including those who had died before) were under the blood(grace) of Jesus Christ. This means God's "impartiality" shifted after the death and resurrection of His Son.
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Xenden
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Posted: 03/19/05 - 03:25 Post subject:
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I'll take "Fun and games with a bag of soggy dicks" for $400!" Ho yeah!
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brethin
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Posted: 03/19/05 - 03:53 Post subject: Re: Is the Christian God impartial?
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| Occulis wrote: | 1) According to the King James Bible, Is the Christian God impartial?
This does not mean 'what do you think?' It means, "According to the bible... "
2) Regardless of what the bible says, do you believe the Christian God is impartial?
3) Is being impartial necessary to complete the definition of God? |
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14130a.htm
You know why its not there anymore right?
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