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ATM Banana
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no, an idiot like me.
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 02:06 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | | no, an idiot like me. |
Same thing.
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 02:06 Post subject:
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wrong, he's got an educated response, i'm just talking out of my ass.
you sir, are wrong.
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 02:08 Post subject:
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| ATM Banana wrote: | wrong, he's got an educated response, i'm just talking out of my ass.
you sir, are wrong. |
You think an idiot who paid to sit in a class room and an idiot who hasn't are any different?
Dey isn't.
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wellspoken
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I agree that Sadamn Husain and Osama needed to be removed/killed.
Sadamn Husain should have been killed back when the 1st Bush was in office.
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Gutrippar
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 03:40 Post subject:
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*nods*
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Gutrippar
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 03:41 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: |
They hit us with a few planes.
Then we took over 2 countries.
What do you think we will do, if they use a nuke on us?
LOL
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This is *exactly* the reason why the USA will lose this so called war. The only way you know how to respond to threats is to either bomb the shit out of the place, or not start at all.
Its but a small step from fighting commies in vietnam...and now *terrorists* in the middle east.
Some here say iran uses religion to promote their own needs, to keep the population under control.
Have you ever thought that its actually exactly the same. Only with the USA, its not religion.
Its TV.[/quote]
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 05:04 Post subject:
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| Gutrippar wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: |
They hit us with a few planes.
Then we took over 2 countries.
What do you think we will do, if they use a nuke on us?
LOL
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This is *exactly* the reason why the USA will lose this so called war. The only way you know how to respond to threats is to either bomb the shit out of the place, or not start at all.
Its but a small step from fighting commies in vietnam...and now *terrorists* in the middle east.
Some here say iran uses religion to promote their own needs, to keep the population under control.
Have you ever thought that its actually exactly the same. Only with the USA, its not religion.
Its TV. |
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So TV is the root of all evil?
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Tura
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:09 Post subject:
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| Gutrippar wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: |
They hit us with a few planes.
Then we took over 2 countries.
What do you think we will do, if they use a nuke on us?
LOL
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This is *exactly* the reason why the USA will lose this so called war. The only way you know how to respond to threats is to either bomb the shit out of the place, or not start at all.
Its but a small step from fighting commies in vietnam...and now *terrorists* in the middle east.
Some here say iran uses religion to promote their own needs, to keep the population under control.
Have you ever thought that its actually exactly the same. Only with the USA, its not religion.
Its TV. |
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Ok.... fine..... elect Kerry into office. Lets watch him play cards with Osama. Maby even some bingo on the weekends. The terrorists dont respond to appeasement the way some people think they would. Its been historically proven time and time again. I know it doesnt sound pretty, but the only answer to this problem is for us to kill them first.
All of them....
I'm just glad we have a president who finally has the balls to ignore the liberal/democratic screaming and go in there doing what he thought was right. Theres not many other ways to deal with terrorists.
What upsets me the most is how much this country lacks respect for its president nowdays. Its one thing to call a president out on something wrong or ask him to adress the issue. Its another thing to force him into corners and outrageously blame him for things on a daily basis.
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Confused
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Posted: 03/18/04 - 12:20 Post subject:
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| Gutrippar wrote: | | This is *exactly* the reason why the USA will lose this so called war. The only way you know how to respond to threats is to either bomb the shit out of the place, or not start at all. |
ROFL. You mean you don't win wars with bombs???
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Arinwulf
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 17:51 Post subject:
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No, you don't win wars with bombs, Phoenix you mindless republican party facist f**k. Unless you are talking about nuclear bombs. Is that what we have to expect from that traitorous party that you suck d**k on?
Phoenix (NWS) you and Kbarr and all you other George Bush warmongers, go join the military and go fight in Iraq if you think our presence there is so necessary. But like George "f*****g blue blood coward" Bush, you only support war when there is no chance of you actually fighting in one. f*****g moron chicken shit b*****d.
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:02 Post subject:
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The Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking but consider this:
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!!!
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:06 Post subject:
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| Arinwulf wrote: | | No, you don't win wars with bombs |
ROFL. You must be french.
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Xenden
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:08 Post subject:
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I think, and hope the difference between iraq and 'nam is that the soldiers who fight and die in this war are treated well and respected.
Unlike in Vietnam.
As a Canadian, American patriotism, and pride etc., sometimes seems a little... uh..
But never, in any circumstance, should you ever disregard another human being that goes to fight on you or your country's behalf.
Never.
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Xenden
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:12 Post subject:
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| Gutrippar wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: |
They hit us with a few planes.
Then we took over 2 countries.
What do you think we will do, if they use a nuke on us?
LOL
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This is *exactly* the reason why the USA will lose this so called war. The only way you know how to respond to threats is to either bomb the shit out of the place, or not start at all.
Its but a small step from fighting commies in vietnam...and now *terrorists* in the middle east.
Some here say iran uses religion to promote their own needs, to keep the population under control.
Have you ever thought that its actually exactly the same. Only with the USA, its not religion.
Its TV. |
Uh, those "commies in vietnam" were some of the tougher fighters America has ever gone up against...
They had home team advantage, and that goes a long m***********g way in the jungle when you are fighting Americans... who don't live in jungles.
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:13 Post subject:
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| Arinwulf wrote: | No, you don't win wars with bombs, Phoenix you mindless republican party facist f**k. Unless you are talking about nuclear bombs. Is that what we have to expect from that traitorous party that you suck d**k on?
Phoenix (NWS) you and Kbarr and all you other George Bush warmongers, go join the military and go fight in Iraq if you think our presence there is so necessary. But like George "f*****g blue blood coward" Bush, you only support war when there is no chance of you actually fighting in one. f*****g moron chicken shit b*****d. |
You little c**t.
I did 6 years in the military and another 17 fighting the long war in bklyn. What have you done? d**k? I figured, you have no right to even comment you f*****g slug.
Little c***s like you make me sick.
Oh, and I'm a proud warmonger:) I think we should take the war to syria, iran and a few other places. Kill them all. This "war" has been going on for thousands of years. We might as well win it now, no more muslims, no more muslim terrorists. But we won't, the planet is so PC now. /spit
You little puke civilian. Go spitshine my jumpboots, scumbag.
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Xenden
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:16 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Arinwulf wrote: | No, you don't win wars with bombs, Phoenix you mindless republican party facist f**k. Unless you are talking about nuclear bombs. Is that what we have to expect from that traitorous party that you suck d**k on?
Phoenix (NWS) you and Kbarr and all you other George Bush warmongers, go join the military and go fight in Iraq if you think our presence there is so necessary. But like George "f*****g blue blood coward" Bush, you only support war when there is no chance of you actually fighting in one. f*****g moron chicken shit b*****d. |
You little c**t.
I did 6 years in the military and another 17 fighting the long war in bklyn. What have you done? d**k? I figured, you have no right to even comment you f*****g slug.
Little c***s like you make me sick.
Oh, and I'm a proud warmonger:) I think we should take the war to syria, iran and a few other places. Kill them all. This "war" has been going on for thousands of years. We might as well win it now, no more muslims, no more muslim terrorists. But we won't, the planet is so PC now. /spit
You little puke civilian. Go spitshine my jumpboots, scumbag.
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I don't agree with a lot of things Kbarr says, but i'm starting to like him more and more ;p
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 18:31 Post subject:
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| Arinwulf wrote: | | No, you don't win wars with bombs |
Well, they seem to be pretty effective for us...
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Arinwulf
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 19:40 Post subject:
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I was in Viet-Nam, Kbarr working for another moron president. I've heard the bullets buzzing past my head, I've seen friends turned to red mist by mortar fire. I watched people desparately trying to get on board aircraft to get away from the North Vietnamese army but were turned away because there was no room. When I was done there, I went to go clean up areas where war had displaced peopled from their homes. What War did you fight in KBarr? Shooting unarmed immigrants in Brooklyn doesn't count you sickening shit. Kill them all? I guess that's what we can expect from a summertime soldier like yourself. Why don't you put in for duty in Iraq or Afghanistan? But you won't because you are blow hard and talk shit about war. What it really means is some traitorous coward like George Bush sends kids to their death fighting some f****d up country just so the Republicans could win the mid term elections. And stupid knuckle draggers like you believe him. Are we safer? NO, the real threat is from North Korea and from China where Republican CEO's are bending over backwards to build it up economically by sending American jobs over there. And from Mexico which is invading this country even as we speak with the Republican businessmen gleefully waving them in. Your f****d up tiny dicked President is enabling all that and we are in more danger from those things than we ever were from Iraq. Now go flash your paratrooper badge at someone who would be impressed with it, because I'm not. I've seen fuckheads like you Kbarr and you guys are the first ones to run from the front line with firefight is on.
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I'm waiting to be impressed by your post Arinwulf. I was around during Desert Storm. I've seen the death. I've played with big guns. So f*****g what. I agree with our President. He's no moron. He's doing what's right. Maybe you should f*****g open your eyes and and ears and listen to what the Iraqi and Afghani people are saying. They may not like us there, but they know what we're doing for them, and they see we've already made a difference. Life for them in both countries has become better thanks to the US and the UN.
But I guess you're just bitter. You sure as shit don't sound like you're military, but rather either a gov't workerbee or a civilian that was over in VN. Perhaps you should qualify your service records sir.
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Zapper
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Posted: 03/19/04 - 20:28 Post subject:
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| Docter wrote: | The Democrats are complaining on how long the war is taking but consider this:
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
It took less time to find Saddam's sons in Iraq than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sunk at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!!! |
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Cheney to come out of hiding after 9/11 =p
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 00:09 Post subject:
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| Arinwulf wrote: | | I was in Viet-Nam, Kbarr working for another moron president. I've heard the bullets buzzing past my head, I've seen friends turned to red mist by mortar fire. |
Give details scumbag, just spouting off crap means nothing. What service, what MOS? You claim you were in, give details.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | I watched people desparately trying to get on board aircraft to get away from the North Vietnamese army but were turned away because there was no room. |
Again scumbag, give details, you watched this in 1974ish?
| Arinwulf wrote: | | When I was done there, I went to go clean up areas where war had displaced peopled from their homes. |
Wow, you were all over, again scumbag, details.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | What War did you fight in KBarr? Shooting unarmed immigrants in Brooklyn doesn't count you sickening shit. |
c**t boy, this more than anything else really tells me where your head is at. You are a true scumbag:) Anti- Bush, anti- American, anti - Police.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | Kill them all? |
Yeah, we should just get it over with. Ever single one of them:)
| Arinwulf wrote: | | I guess that's what we can expect from a summertime soldier like yourself. Why don't you put in for duty in Iraq or Afghanistan? But you won't because you are blow hard and talk shit about war. |
I'm to old, you a*****e:) How old are you btw, you should be in your 50s correct?
| Arinwulf wrote: | | What it really means is some traitorous coward like George Bush sends kids to their death fighting some f****d up country just so the Republicans could win the mid term elections. And stupid knuckle draggers like you believe him. |
Idiot, stone idiot.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | Are we safer? NO, the real threat is from North Korea and from China where Republican CEO's are bending over backwards to build it up economically by sending American jobs over there. And from Mexico which is invading this country even as we speak with the Republican businessmen gleefully waving them in. |
If gore was president it would be even worse, PLUS we wouldn't have responded in any way to 9/11.
You idiot.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | Your f****d up tiny dicked President is enabling all that and we are in more danger from those things than we ever were from Iraq. |
You idiot.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | Now go flash your paratrooper badge at someone who would be impressed with it, because I'm not. |
Whats the matter leg, never got one? You f*****g puke, again a*****e, what was your MOS. I smell a dirty puke leg.
| Arinwulf wrote: | | I've seen fuckheads like you Kbarr and you guys are the first ones to run from the front line with firefight is on. |
You never seen anything like me you scumbag:) But I have seen plenty of scumbags like you, they foul the air with their very presance. Jane Fonda , even that c**t has more class than you. She was just a stupid bimbo and didn't know any better, you don't have that excuse for being so f*****g stupid. Things like you disgust me, and are the reason we need a civil war. Yeah, a short civil war so we can cull out the weak minded a******s such as yourself.
Is this you a*****e?
One more thing. Don't stop posting. Since eduin left I have been forced to spar with teens, this is fun:)
You scumbag.
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 00:56 Post subject:
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Everyone knows vietnam was a horrible war against a tough enemy, iraq is easy compared to that, cities and flat plains where anything with body temperature over 30 sticks out easy. We cant let vietnam be a reason not to fight fights that need to be fought to keep peace and keep safe, thats what europe did after wwi, war was such an aweful thought to them they made many massive mistakes that over a hundred million human lives+ in total. Do you dems really think its a great idea to wait for the middle east to unite into a fanatical nuclear power bloc that can cut the west off from all its oil? Then what choice do we have, face massive economic colapse or fight a nuclear war? Even that discounts the massive increase in terrorism that would be possible with a united fanatic middle east.
Or better yet we could ignore china (a country that has been steadily increasing human rights and trying to manage a huge population and industrial transition) and they would start to hate us too and blame us for how hard there lives are and how millions of them starve. Instead we send them a few jobs americans wouldnt fill anyways and they like us and want to work and trade with us and they want to BE us not kill us. For all intents and purposes china seems content at its current size, they arent agressively trying to expand other than taiwan which they consider historical property (think what we would be like if manifest destiny had stopped on the california border) North Korea isnt a threat, what indication does anyone have that they are, they are isolated and surrounded by 3 major world powers, wtf are they going to do.
Really some of you need to think, these wars are about preventing worse wars in the future, theres no better option for anyone who understands basic human nature, who understands how a fanatic thinks, who understands history.
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| Quote: | | Phoenix (NWS) you and Kbarr and all you other George Bush warmongers, go join the military and go fight in Iraq if you think our presence there is so necessary. But like George "f*****g blue blood coward" Bush, you only support war when there is no chance of you actually fighting in one. f*****g moron chicken shit b*****d. |
Wanna prove my point anymore? The only side of your argument, and every other lib/democrat, is rage and hate for Bush.
If you cant spit up anything else but garbage then don't expect anyone to give you the time of day.
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16 years and counting active service. Started in the 82nd and went to a pogue medical MOS after the first reenlistment.. (so I thought) They had TOE units in pogueville too. 
Anyhoo since becoming a proud pogue, I've played around the outter edges of the bosnia, kosovo and afghan theaters. Almost nabbed a deployment that would have begun a week or two from now to Haitti.. Yeah, I know WTF was I thinking. A SFC with creole ability beat me out for the selection.  That b*****d.
Anyhoo, is this war like Vietnam? I'd say no for several reasons.
Unlike Vietnam we are actively seeking to pass the torch for security and defense to the Iraqi. We dicked around with Vietnamization until it was too late. Shit we were in the country from as early as 1954 but we waited until Abrams took over to do this..
Unilike Vietnam we took terrain and controlled it. We didn't set up fire bases and send out forced to kill Terrorists when we heard they were on the move. Sure we are in a low intensity guerillla war now,but at least our current leaders know it and are using tactics to fight it.. unlike our good friend West Point's 1936 first captain graduate and man of the year Gen Westmoreland.
Unlike Vietnam the public is aware of the activities going on in the country as far as operations, mission, troop numbers, and of course war crimes and attrocities.. UNFORTUNATELY the media is not so good at reporting the positive things they are doing for electricity, water, schools, contruction, trainnig law enforcement and defense force.. The media knows people love train wrecks.. so thats what they give us.
Unlike Vietnam we have a time table to get out. Its not rigid but it exists. Sure we had idiots calling it a quagmire on day 3 of the land campaign.. have to remember they hit some nasty dust storms. When you can see ten feet in front of your vehicle, you do not fight. This is 2004 technology developed over the last decade and not 2204 tech.
How is it like Vietnam?
I point to the tonkin gulf resolution and the permission granted the current POTUS to prosecute the war on terror. Congress gave the pres then much as now a blank check to take on and kill the enemy. A frightening thing to see one branch of our government give up its control of an enumerated power so easily.
Like Vietnam there is a large anti war movement and a large pro war movement polarzing the nation. Like Vietnam as the post war nation building operation drags on and casualties mount our stiomach for it shrinks. Americans are a fickle lot, we love to kick ass, provided we can do it in two weeks. We lack the fortitudeof generations gone by to enter into a challenge and stay the course despite tragedy.
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 11:37 Post subject:
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| Arinwulf wrote: | No, you don't win wars with bombs, Phoenix you mindless republican party facist f**k. Unless you are talking about nuclear bombs. Is that what we have to expect from that traitorous party that you suck d**k on?
Phoenix (NWS) you and Kbarr and all you other George Bush warmongers, go join the military and go fight in Iraq if you think our presence there is so necessary. But like George "f*****g blue blood coward" Bush, you only support war when there is no chance of you actually fighting in one. f*****g moron chicken shit b*****d. |
This reads just like James Carville has his hand up your ass and is moving your lips with his fingers. Who is following mindlessly? hah.
Edit: oh yeah, I am a 9 year military vet. (changed cuz i missed a post!)
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Posted: 03/20/04 - 16:09 Post subject: Re: Iraq is starting to look like the next Vietnam.
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| Megalo wrote: | Let em find their own way out of the 14th century.
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Megalo wrote: | I'm afraid a lot of these smaller, yet more dangerous, religiously run countries are gonna step up one day.
All it takes is one nuke on their side. And if they honestly believe they're going to Allah, and will have an even better life if they take people with em...
It really does look worse and worse everyday. And we'll never have a long standing base in Iraq. Those people don't want us there. We were just the lesser of two evils. |
They hit us with a few planes.
Then we took over 2 countries.
What do you think we will do, if they use a nuke on us?
LOL
And yes, we will have a long standing base in iraq and afghanistan. Why the f**k do you think we took them over? JUST to change the government? LOL, No brother, we are there for the duration. We will set them up nice and pretty with friendly ppl in charge and we will stay. The base won't be in the middle of a city, it will be far away where we can be in control of who can get close. They will continue to blow each other up thats for sure, but at least they will be dealing with it. We will be watching from a secure base and giving assistance when needed. Translation? We will be the muscle behind the government. Just watch. |
I hope the f*****s try it just so we can have an excuse. It'll be like John Travolta in pulp fiction. "You know it would almost be worth having my car keyed just to catch the f****r in the act".
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| Paco wrote: | I'm waiting to be impressed by your post Arinwulf. I was around during Desert Storm. I've seen the death. I've played with big guns. So f*****g what. I agree with our President. He's no moron. He's doing what's right. Maybe you should f*****g open your eyes and and ears and listen to what the Iraqi and Afghani people are saying. They may not like us there, but they know what we're doing for them, and they see we've already made a difference. Life for them in both countries has become better thanks to the US and the UN.
But I guess you're just bitter. You sure as shit don't sound like you're military, but rather either a gov't workerbee or a civilian that was over in VN. Perhaps you should qualify your service records sir. |
you can't compare desert storm to fighting deep in vietnam lol
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Tolanin
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| lauren000 wrote: | | Paco wrote: | I'm waiting to be impressed by your post Arinwulf. I was around during Desert Storm. I've seen the death. I've played with big guns. So f*****g what. I agree with our President. He's no moron. He's doing what's right. Maybe you should f*****g open your eyes and and ears and listen to what the Iraqi and Afghani people are saying. They may not like us there, but they know what we're doing for them, and they see we've already made a difference. Life for them in both countries has become better thanks to the US and the UN.
But I guess you're just bitter. You sure as shit don't sound like you're military, but rather either a gov't workerbee or a civilian that was over in VN. Perhaps you should qualify your service records sir. |
you can't compare desert storm to fighting deep in vietnam lol |
yes, I think this was everyones point as to why arinwulf is a d*****s.
"The casualties sustained by the British army in the opening day of the Battle of Somme totalled 57,470, of which 19,240 were fatal. "
And in other news, vietnam wasnt even all that bad, 10 years of vietnam to equal a few days of WWI.
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