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lauren000
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 Posted: 07/05/04 - 14:35 Post subject: Interesting brain teaser
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****-Change Operation Tests Marriage Law
Sunday, July 4, 2004; Page A02
Here's a legal riddle: Can a man marry a woman, but still violate a
ban on
same-**** marriages?
It will be up to some of the great minds of Kentucky law to find an
answer.
The courtroom brainteaser comes courtesy of a Louisville marital
dispute or,
better yet, the case of the Paul who became a Paula.
The Paul in this scenario is Paul Spina. About 22 years ago, Spina
married
Sharon Hays, whose family owns a big Ford dealership in Louisville.
Spina
went to work for the in-laws, serving as general counsel to the
company's
network of car dealerships. Spina says he and his wife accumulated
company
stock worth millions of dollars.
Last year, Spina went to Thailand and underwent a ****-change
operation. He
returned with a new name: Paula Spina.
Spina's wife reacted by trying to get their marriage annulled. Among
her
legal arguments is the claim that Paul Spina was always
psychologically a
woman and, therefore, violated Kentucky's law prohibiting same-****
marriages
when they said their "I do's."
Spina's attorneys have argued that their client was obviously a man
when the
couple wed. After all, he fathered two children. Sharon Spina's
attorneys
did not return calls.
The annulment request, which was dismissed this spring by a county
judge, is
on its way to the Kentucky Court of Appeals.
Paula "is being mistreated," said Shannon Minter, legal director for
the
National Center for l*****n Rights and a board member of the
Transgender Law
and Policy Institute. "This is really a despicable legal tactic."
-- Manuel Roig-Franzia
© 2004 The Washington Post Company
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Manuva
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 14:41 Post subject:
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Jesus, here she goes again!
I got as far as ****-Change before I realized I didn't give a shit.
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 15:10 Post subject:
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Jist is this.
Man marries woman. their "new" family, makes millions.
Man has ****-change operation.
Woman goes to courts to annul the marrage saying man was always a "mental woman", which violates same-**** marrage laws in kentucky.
blah blah, courts laugh a bit, nothing is done. Now they're filing for appeals.
the end... or is it?
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median
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 16:22 Post subject:
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Here's and interesting brain teaser:
Why the f**k are you dressed like a woman if you have a penis! 
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Xarpolis
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 16:43 Post subject:
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who said someone was dressed as a woman?
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Paco
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 18:32 Post subject:
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Kazkuk
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 18:38 Post subject:
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you know its kind of misleading to just say "a man is trying to marry a woman and it may violate a same **** law" when the woman use to be a man.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 19:16 Post subject:
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This thread hasn't lived up to the title. It was one of those rhetorical riddles that aren't interesting at all.
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Tiluvas
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 21:15 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | This thread hasn't lived up to the title. It was one of those rhetorical riddles that aren't interesting at all. |
I was going to use this thread to type out a long erotica story involving crossdressing and homosexuality, but I guess I'll have to wait for another opportunity.
I had a good one lined up, too!
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 21:29 Post subject:
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| Tiluvas wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | This thread hasn't lived up to the title. It was one of those rhetorical riddles that aren't interesting at all. |
I was going to use this thread to type out a long erotica story involving crossdressing and homosexuality, but I guess I'll have to wait for another opportunity.
I had a good one lined up, too! |
Damn you, that's like saying: "I was going to let you makeout with my butt, however I think I'll wait until after dinner."
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Vengar_OO
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 21:29 Post subject: -==-
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| Quote: | Spina's wife reacted by trying to get their marriage annulled. Among
her
legal arguments is the claim that Paul Spina was always
psychologically a
woman and, therefore, violated Kentucky's law prohibiting same-****
marriages
when they said their "I do's."
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If she knew this psychologically, guess she shouldn't have married him. Case dismissed.
*slams gavel*
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Confused
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Posted: 07/05/04 - 21:42 Post subject:
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I don't really understand how it is a brain teaser. She has grounds to take pretty much everything in a divorce case because her husband chopped off his willy. Whether someone is a f****t or not does not change their ****. Chromosomes, baby.
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Someone
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 03:08 Post subject:
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Confused said
| Quote: | | Chromosomes, baby. |
Seems to be the answer to the brain teaser. A person can have an opperation or disguise themselves to appear like the opposite **** or even live out the life of the opposite ****, but you are who you are. That isn't to speak about someone's belief about who he/she is, but classify them as science can. Even though this person went through a **** change operation his genes say he is a man, as will the law most likely if it decides to even deal with that aspect. Whole situation seems like a shame; however, you cant just back out of some situations as though they never existed. Some you can. All kinds of people are willing to risk the well-being of loved ones for all kinds of reasons. Reasonable people can reasonably disagree about this one.
My two cents in a pile of pennies.
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Celestra
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 03:48 Post subject:
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| Someone wrote: | Confused said
| Quote: | | Chromosomes, baby. |
Seems to be the answer to the brain teaser. A person can have an opperation or disguise themselves to appear like the opposite **** or even live out the life of the opposite ****, but you are who you are. That isn't to speak about someone's belief about who he/she is, but classify them as science can. |
Now that's pretty funny in answer to Laurens question.
Since Laurens chromosomes are actually ambiguous.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 05:21 Post subject:
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NO ONE GIVES A FLYING f**k ABOUT MEN GETTING THEIR DICKS CUT OFF ANYMORE LAUREN, SHUT THE f**k UP.
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Renork
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 07:05 Post subject:
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| Ikkan wrote: | | NO ONE GIVES A FLYING f**k ABOUT MEN GETTING THEIR DICKS CUT OFF ANYMORE LAUREN, SHUT THE f**k UP. |
Seconded
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 07:44 Post subject:
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I clicked on this thread thinking it was going to be an actual brainteaser. I read one line before I realized it wasn't and stopped reading. :/
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Paco
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 07:46 Post subject:
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Remember that Lauren never posts anything nifty like that Nuldaan. EVER
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Celestra
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 07:49 Post subject:
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We used to have lots of threads with those... they would drive me crazy... Not sure if that was here or on Abiworld though?
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 07:58 Post subject:
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I know...I was hoping that it would be something like that. Oh well, it's time for bed anyway. A brainteaser would just keep me up for the rest of the night. :p
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Zab
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 09:19 Post subject:
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Kentucky - 15 million people, 7 last names
nuff said
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scoresia
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 09:38 Post subject:
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| Renork wrote: | | Ikkan wrote: | | NO ONE GIVES A FLYING f**k ABOUT MEN GETTING THEIR DICKS CUT OFF ANYMORE LAUREN, SHUT THE f**k UP. |
Seconded |
Thirded!
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 07/06/04 - 17:51 Post subject:
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| scoresia wrote: | | Renork wrote: | | Ikkan wrote: | | NO ONE GIVES A FLYING f**k ABOUT MEN GETTING THEIR DICKS CUT OFF ANYMORE LAUREN, SHUT THE f**k UP. |
Seconded |
Thirded! |
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Tura
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Posted: 07/07/04 - 02:08 Post subject:
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| Manuva wrote: | | Jesus, here she goes again! |
*he*
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Kintheris
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Posted: 07/07/04 - 06:07 Post subject:
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| Tura wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | | Jesus, here she goes again! |
*he* |
-It-
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Tura
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Posted: 07/07/04 - 10:34 Post subject:
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| Kintheris wrote: | | Tura wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | | Jesus, here she goes again! |
*he* |
-It- |
No he was born a male and will always be a male. Even if he dosnt want to admit it to us or himself. 
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khrath
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Posted: 07/07/04 - 10:48 Post subject:
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lol this thread reminded me of watching badder santa.
That shit was funny when he was like...."You won't be able to shit right for a month!"
I love that movie
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