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Tura
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 Posted: 10/12/05 - 15:54 Post subject: I'm going to be a father (Updated with drama!)
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A husky father that is.
Freaking adoption process is anal though. I have given more information than it would take for me to get an all-day pass to the Pentagon. I'm at the point now where they process my application and schedule a meet and greet with myself and the foster family. I guess they want a low turnover rate with their adoptions but geez its almost turned me away from the whole adoption idea.
Heres my girl:
Her names willow and shes got a great profile:
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4888043
Providing all of her information is correct she would make a great pet for an apartment. I got a kennel and some supplies the other day so now its just a matter of picking the right dog. If for some reason my application doesn't go through im also looking at a few dogs from southernsiberian.com. They have some great rescue huskys on there too.
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:12 Post subject:
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We had a Husky once, damn thing wouldn't shut up, howled all night long, when he finally got over that, he started digging holes under the fence, when we got him to stop doing that, my brother let him out on accident and we never saw him again, he had cool eyes though!
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:23 Post subject:
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| Fattguyy wrote: | | We had a Husky once, damn thing wouldn't shut up, howled all night long, when he finally got over that, he started digging holes under the fence, when we got him to stop doing that, my brother let him out on accident and we never saw him again, he had cool eyes though! |
Research a dog before you buy it! Huskies will always dig and need a decent fence and more work-out then a walk around the block. She looks stunning, you'll be a happy dad!
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Tura
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:24 Post subject:
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| Fattguyy wrote: | | We had a Husky once, damn thing wouldn't shut up, howled all night long, when he finally got over that, he started digging holes under the fence, when we got him to stop doing that, my brother let him out on accident and we never saw him again, he had cool eyes though! |
Between your turtle, cat and dog stories, I think you should look into a chia pet for your next companion. 
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Tura
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:27 Post subject:
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| Frostkiss wrote: | | Fattguyy wrote: | | We had a Husky once, damn thing wouldn't shut up, howled all night long, when he finally got over that, he started digging holes under the fence, when we got him to stop doing that, my brother let him out on accident and we never saw him again, he had cool eyes though! |
Research a dog before you buy it! Huskies will always dig and need a decent fence and more work-out then a walk around the block. She looks stunning, you'll be a happy dad! |
Very correct, huskys are actually one of the most difficult canines to raise. They also have 0 sense heading ability (Meaning when they get loose they will travel in 1 direction only until they are found by someone else.)
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:38 Post subject:
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My Fiance has a husky, I'll take some pictures this weekend.
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Fattguyy
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:44 Post subject:
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Ehh, I don't get pets, my brother brought the dog home one day, same as cats..
I haven't bought a pet in years =p
The turtle was cool though, sadly my brothers killed it. 
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 16:50 Post subject:
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i thought you meant you were fat.
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We had to put my dog to sleep on monday and he was 16 years old. He has been living with my parents since i was 10 so it has been really hard. He couldnt walk really at all anymore and me and my mom cried and cried before and after she took him. But this post kinda cheered me up. Grats on your new Puppy Tura!
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 17:27 Post subject:
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grats!
while she is beautiful i forsee future hip problems ... take good care of her!
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 17:35 Post subject:
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I only read the first sentences and you're a sick man.
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 17:41 Post subject:
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| Tamrissa wrote: | grats!
while she is beautiful i forsee future hip problems ... take good care of her! |
uh huh, pet insurance, pet insurance, pet insurance!!!
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 17:43 Post subject:
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I so need to post a pic of my dog.. she is beyond cute.
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 17:45 Post subject:
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| Yellow Journalist wrote: | | I so need to post a pic of my dog.. she is beyond cute. |
well get to it! chop chop!
and wb frosty
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Posted: 10/12/05 - 22:03 Post subject: Re: I'm going to be a father
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| Tura wrote: | A husky father that is.
Freaking adoption process is anal though. I have given more information than it would take for me to get an all-day pass to the Pentagon. I'm at the point now where they process my application and schedule a meet and greet with myself and the foster family. I guess they want a low turnover rate with their adoptions but geez its almost turned me away from the whole adoption idea.
Heres my girl:
Her names willow and shes got a great profile:
http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4888043
Providing all of her information is correct she would make a great pet for an apartment. I got a kennel and some supplies the other day so now its just a matter of picking the right dog. If for some reason my application doesn't go through im also looking at a few dogs from southernsiberian.com. They have some great rescue huskys on there too. |
Scary thing is, to adopt a pet you need to jump through all kinds of hoops
but any moron with a vagina can have a baby
btw great dog, be prepared to deal with alot of shedding fur
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Tura
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Yeah they shed twice a year but the great thing is husky's are not supposed to be groomed because it can open their skin up to allergies and reactions.
As far as the hip thing goes Tam, I don't think anything is wrong with her. That's actually the way alot of huskies sit (the sorta dopey lazy-style). What's really great is the way they sprawl out when they lay down. Its almost like me at 3am on the couch, except with a dog and without a couch.
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Maybe one day I will get a collie...my Grandfather always had one on the farm...when I visited him as a child.
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Tura
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If for some reason you get a rescue husky Doc, don't get it from southernsiberian.com
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Tura
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 01:34 Post subject:
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Story:
Ok so for 5 months prior to now I have been chatting online with this *supposedly* pleasant girl from southernsiberian.com discussing/searching for a dog that would fit me well. Today when she realized I was adopting through another agency she turns angst-woman and turns her nose up in the air at an angle that defy's gravity itself. I get this email from her out in left field and had to resist the urge to line my english with some potent venom. I decided to share the emails because I want to make sure im not in the wrong here. I really did not see this drama coming at all...maybe she was just having a bad day, but either way she offended me. Start from the bottom and work your way up. Her text is in green to make it an easier read:
| Quote: | Dawne,
Well, it seems you already have me figured out don't you? I truly am sorry if I have seemed indecisive with you, but you need to realize I am going to be the one taking care of this dog and I am not going to make a decision until I know it would be a wise one. I want this to be a pleasant experience for the dog and especially for myself. I respect, and always have valued you as someone who could better inform me on making this choice but you seem to have lost patients with me or Miss-understood me.
Ok Travis. I'm going to boldly lay this out for you because I'm not sure that you get it. You first inquired with us in early July looking for a pup as old as 5 months so I referred you to Petfinder listings with Siberian pups because we didn't have any in our program at the time. You came back with thanks for my help and you would swoop Spiderman up if you could but you're moving so please keep you in mind if pups become available. You then submitted your application with us at July end wanting to fully adopt Laka, who at that time had an application in and was adopted.
There was no way for me to know at the time Laka was already being adopted because there was no indication of that on your website.
You let me know of a puppy mill that you went to and I attempted to educate you on this particular kennel as not being a responsible breeder you should adopt from.
Just out of curiosity, how exactly do you know this breeder or how he/she runs their kennel? I also remember making it clear that I was not looking to buy from them, I was just there to look because I wanted to adopt instead.
I emailed you again when we got the pups in on October 1 and the rest of that conversation is in this email. So we have been talking about dogs for you for a long time now, which is good because we're narrowing down what is good and not good for you.
If you understand this then you should know why I am taking time in my decision.
Please understand that a rescue's primary focus is to match a particular foster dog with the right applicant. We have the foster dogs in our personal homes, giving the adopter the advantage or our first hand knowledge and experience with him/her and what will be a good environment and situation for them. Based on your application and other conversation with you, we can narrow down which dog will do best in your situation. I have suggested to you that you look at Shana and Sitka as good candidates for your "lifestyle." Your app with us says you run at least once a day and that for a Siberian is fantastic. Though I will again mention Daisy because I don't think that will be so fantastic for her. Daisy is not going to be a runner. Hence me referring you to Shana and Sitka as well as the reasons I previously emailed you.
I have checked for Sitka on your website and she is not listed.
BTW, please never throw your dog in the BACK of your truck but keep in the cab. I have been at the vet's office on too many occasions when folks have come in with shattered dogs that have jumped out of the back of trucks. I can assure you that a Siberian will never stay in the back of a truck and our contract states that will NOT be done, unless properly crated. Your app further states that you have two cats that stay at your Mom's house because they fell in love with her. They are declawed. You further mention that you go over there often (and I assume you will take your new Siberian at some point and time.) Please know that Siberians have a high prey drive and kill cats, rabbits, birds, squirrels, opossoms, chickens, goats, etc and your statement that you will make sure they get accustomed to each other is most likely NOT going to happen.
Just in the same, you should not assume that I am planning on just throwing the dogs and cats together while I casually visit my folks. My parents have a room in the back of the house where we put the cats when company is over or when there is another animal in the house. That is assuming of course that I am ever going to bring my dog over there. If it is too stressful then I would not make that kind of trip...simple as that.
You ask me in the early stages of this email conversation if Mitzie does well with other dogs because you have a friend with a sibe that you will be interacting and playing with. I responded that Mitzie will not do well in your situation due to the apartment because of traits Mitzie has. You then email me that your friends met a siberian and think she is perfect for you. I can assure you Travis that your friends can meet every and any Siberian we have in our program and think that they are perfect for you too but we know better.
You know, what my friends did was nothing wrong, they simply thought of me when they saw the dog and mentioned it to me to see if I would be interested. There is nothing wrong with that. They are actually owners of a siberian so don't please be so quick to judge and belittle them.
Willow no doubt is a gorgeous female but I don't think you are clearly looking at her description and realistically thinking that she will fit in your lifestyle.
Once again you are assuming you know more about my life than I do, and I find that offensive. You have never met me so how can you know how responsible my decisions are? You can only assume based on my application. A good rule of thumb in life is to understand, and then be understood.
A...you want to go to your friends house on a monthly basis with a dog that is very clearly stated does not get along with other dogs. This is why I asked you what kind of dogs is the foster home talking about. You seem to think it doesn't matter because your friends 3 dogs are not the least bit aggressive. That my friend does not matter becasue if Willow starts a fight, rest assured that dog is going to respond and fight back. If you've never broken up a dog fight Travis, you won't understand what I'm talking about until it actually happens to you. You really need to know what breeds and genders Willow has problems with. Willow's profile also clearly states that she is not cat friendly so probably will be best never to take her to Mom's house. I have already commented on the thunder thing so won't repeat myself.
Did you even read her fosters description? Here I wil quote it for you:
"Although Willow would do best in a home without other dogs, she does greet other dogs when walking with no problem. She's interested in them, but not in an aggressive way, no growling, barking, etc. If she is off leash in the backyard with her current foster canine "pals," she must be supervised. With some work/training, we believe Willow could live with other dogs."
This clearly states that in time it could be possible for her to be socialized with other friendly canines if it is done in the right manner. Reguardless of what you say, these other 3 dogs are extremely non-territorial and friendly. I can definately see a hope for all 4 of them getting along after multiple controlled visits. I'm really surprised this has been such an issue considering I will not be over there with her that often. For the record, I have broken up a few dog fights before and have the scars to prove it. Once again you are assuming that im just going to throw all the dogs together and hope they make friends. I am well aware that it takes time for dogs to trust one another, ESPECIALLY if they have had a traumatic experience in the past. Rest assured, Willow will not be subject to un-supervised time with ANY other dog or animal for that matter.
Travis...you seem to really not know what you're doing here in your decision with Willow - or any Siberian for that matter. I can go on and talk to you about dog fights (female on female are by far the worst), dog aggression, high prey drives of Siberians and them not doing well with cats but you're not going to listen to me because you've really not listened to anything I have said throughout this entire journey.
On the contrary, I have intently listened to you and valued your opinions up to this email where I have come to realize you have 0 patients for me or for my desire to do this the right way.
Once again I will iterate that a good rule of thumb in life is to understand, and then be understood.
Please accept this as the last email you will receive from me.
Respectfully,
Travis |
| Quote: | Southern Siberian Rescue <southernsibes@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok Travis. I'm going to boldly lay this out for you because I'm not sure that you get it. You first inquired with us in early July looking for a pup as old as 5 months so I referred you to Petfinder listings with Siberian pups because we didn't have any in our program at the time. You came back with thanks for my help and you would swoop Spiderman up if you could but you're moving so please keep you in mind if pups become available. You then submitted your application with us at July end wanting to fully adopt Laka, who at that time had an application in and was adopted. You let me know of a puppy mill that you went to and I attempted to educate you on this particular kennel as not being a responsible breeder you should adopt from. I emailed you again when we got the pups in on October 1 and the rest of that conversation is in this email. So we have been talking about dogs for you for a long time now, which is good because we're narrowing down what is good and not good for you.
Please understand that a rescue's primary focus is to match a particular foster dog with the right applicant. We have the foster dogs in our personal homes, giving the adopter the advantage or our first hand knowledge and experience with him/her and what will be a good environment and situation for them. Based on your application and other conversation with you, we can narrow down which dog will do best in your situation. I have suggested to you that you look at Shana and Sitka as good candidates for your "lifestyle."
Your app with us says you run at least once a day and that for a Siberian is fantastic. Though I will again mention Daisy because I don't think that will be so fantastic for her. Daisy is not going to be a runner. Hence me referring you to Shana and Sitka as well as the reasons I previously emailed you. BTW, please never throw your dog in the BACK of your truck but keep in the cab. I have been at the vet's office on too many occasions when folks have come in with shattered dogs that have jumped out of the back of trucks. I can assure you that a Siberian will never stay in the back of a truck and our contract states that will NOT be done, unless properly crated. Your app further states that you have two cats that stay at your Mom's house because they fell in love with her. They are declawed. You further mention that you go over there often (and I assume you will take your new Siberian at some point and time.) Please know that Siberians have a high prey drive and kill cats, rabbits, birds, squirrels, opossoms, chickens, goats, etc and your statement that you will make sure they get accustomed to each other is most likely NOT going to happen.
You ask me in the early stages of this email conversation if Mitzie does well with other dogs because you have a friend with a sibe that you will be interacting and playing with. I responded that Mitzie will not do well in your situation due to the apartment because of traits Mitzie has. You then email me that your friends met a siberian and think she is perfect for you. I can assure you Travis that your friends can meet every and any Siberian we have in our program and think that they are perfect for you too but we know better. Willow no doubt is a gorgeous female but I don't think you are clearly looking at her description and realistically thinking that she will fit in your lifestyle. A...you want to go to your friends house on a monthly basis with a dog that is very clearly stated does not get along with other dogs. This is why I asked you what kind of dogs is the foster home talking about. You seem to think it doesn't matter because your friends 3 dogs are not the least bit aggressive. That my friend does not matter becasue if Willow starts a fight, rest assured that dog is going to respond and fight back. If you've never broken up a dog fight Travis, you won't understand what I'm talking about until it actually happens to you. You really need to know what breeds and genders Willow has problems with. Willow's profile also clearly states that she is not cat friendly so probably will be best never to take her to Mom's house. I have already commented on the thunder thing so won't repeat myself.
Travis...you seem to really not know what you're doing here in your decision with Willow - or any Siberian for that matter. I can go on and talk to you about dog fights (female on female are by far the worst), dog aggression, high prey drives of Siberians and them not doing well with cats but you're not going to listen to me because you've really not listened to anything I have said throughout this entire journey.
Please accept this email as notice that your application with Southern Siberian Rescue is denied.
Dawne |
| Quote: | Travis Trice <defy_avail@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Dawne,
Well if everything that was said about willow was true in her profile, then I really don't forsee any problems with her. The other dogs (Beagle, Husky, Black Lab) all took about 2 visits before they all got along, but now they are great together. I only go over to their houses once every month or so for cookouts and fellowship, so we would have lots of time to get the dogs aquainted the right way. I can tell you right now theres not 1 aggressive bone in all 3 of those other dogs too.
About the exercise. I do work out normally which includes running in the morning. My apartment has a great outdoor scene with lots of space away from the busy roads and theres even a lake. They said she likes to play but not too hard, and that her activity level was moderate. I think she would get plenty of exercise if you add in all the exercise time along with the frequent rides in the truck.
Like I said earlier though, its not a done deal yet so im trying to not get my hopes up. I did go and read the profiles for Daisy-Mae and Shana. I like them both and if for some reason this does not work out then maybe we can look into those 2 siberians.
Thanks for your input as always Dawne. |
| Quote: | Southern Siberian Rescue <southernsibes@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey Travis,
Had to email you back. I followed her link cuz I always love to look at siberians and I would caution you about her "need to be an only dog" situation. Have you inquired what dogs the foster home has -both genders and breeds - that she is not getting along with? If they're smaller breeds then I can see that but breeds equal her size or larger may cause problems for you if you intend to have play dates with your friend and her siberian. Bigger problems if Willow is more aggressive with other females. Training dog "aggression" out of a dog is very possible but it will take a lot of time and probably fights in the process. Not sure if you had plans to exercise at dog parks but doesn't sound like Willow will be a good candidate for them either. Not that I'm a fan of dog parks but they're a great way for folks in apartments/townhouses/condos to get their dogs out for exercise. You need to take heed to the afraid of thunder too. This means she's gonna tear your place up if you're not home during a thunderstorm, fireworks and other loud noises! I've seen it happen to multiple friends with dogs who are afraid of storms, one was unfortunately one of our foster dogs.
So take my advice for what it's worth Travis but quite honestly based on things you have told us and what you want to do with your new siberian, she doesn't seem all that fantastic a match to me. Sorry, just my opinion. Again, the "need to be an only dog" recommendation is the primary concern and flaw.
Thank you still for turning to rescue Travis and I wish you and Willow much success with a long, happy life.
Dawne |
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Those e-mails were confusing. Is she p****d because you aren't getting a dog through her?
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Tura
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Those e-mails were confusing. Is she p****d because you aren't getting a dog through her? |
Man, im as confused as you are. The emails start descending to ascending so start from the bottom when you read them.
The only thing I can think of is she either had a bad day and went super-tree hugger on me, or she was upset I didnt adopt one of her dogs. Either way, im glad I found bfpa.org and am dealing with a much more pleasant/professional person.
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Tamrissa
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 05:20 Post subject:
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wowzers! sounds like little miss controll freak is p****d at you for finding a dog yourself that 'may not be as perfect for you as the one she would have chosen for you' because ya know, she knows best ... how dare you assume you know yourself and your situation better then her, she is an expert ya know! 
seriously wtf haha ??
and for my hip comment ya i know they sit off kilter like that its 'comfy' to most just like sheppards sit of to the side kinda danty like.. they also have HUGE hip problems.
im jsu suggesting you make sure shes insured and take good care of her, regular exercise etc to help prevent hip problems cause she is a candidate for them.
btw, shes absolutely adorable, makes me miss molson doofus and shanook. all huskys, 1 malamute and 1 was actually half wolf but dfumb as a doorknob thus how he earned his name of doofus. still nice dogs though, very loving and warm and great personalities if raised/treated right.
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just FYI, it's "patience"
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awwww, what a cute sig, Nah :p
Tura,
She was getting a wee bit too attached to you. That's where her attitude is coming from. She's jealous. Her email oozes it
Some animal people devote themselves to animals because they are more comfortable surrounding themselves with animals rather than people. Where else can you get unconditional love?
If you've had a pet before then you likely know how to take care of one. If you're in any way unsure of "special needs" of a husky, there's a million places to read up as well as a local vet to talk to about it all. You're not making a snap decision; you realize the commitment once you have the pet....congratz and enjoy (and more pix!)
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 10:14 Post subject:
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Uh... well, anyway, to make a long story short - spend $35 at the pound and save a good dog's life.
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Tura
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 13:50 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | makes me miss molson doofus and shanook |
haha thats great tam. Good name ideas.
Princi,
I'll post pics asap once I get her situated and all that jazz.
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Tura
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 13:54 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | just FYI, it's "patience"
-Nah- |
Yeah yeah, I didn't even get a chance to spell check or proof read (Honestly, she wasn't worth the time). I'm sure you noticed her firm grip on the english language as well though?... =p
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Nahualli
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 14:24 Post subject:
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| Tura wrote: | | Nahualli wrote: | just FYI, it's "patience"
-Nah- |
Yeah yeah, I didn't even get a chance to spell check or proof read (Honestly, she wasn't worth the time). I'm sure you noticed her firm grip on the english language as well though?... =p |
Yeah and if she posted here I'd shower her with similar praise.
Anyways my take on this is similar to Occulis'. Personally I've always preferred pound mutts to cushy purebreds, but I guess it's a personal preference. Granted, adopting from an SPCA nowadays isn't exactly easy either, but that's beside the point. You know those huskies won't be destroyed after not being adopted for 5 weeks.
-Nah-
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Zapper
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Location: Connecticut
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Posted: 10/13/05 - 14:32 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Tura wrote: | | Nahualli wrote: | just FYI, it's "patience"
-Nah- |
Yeah yeah, I didn't even get a chance to spell check or proof read (Honestly, she wasn't worth the time). I'm sure you noticed her firm grip on the english language as well though?... =p |
Yeah and if she posted here I'd shower her with similar praise.
-Nah- |
OH shit Nah is right you have to get her to post here. Tell her it was this board that influenced you or something
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