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atarom
Dalai Lama of RealPoor
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: 375th st. Y
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 Posted: 01/25/05 - 06:57 Post subject: Hunter Talents
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I have yet to find a really good thread about this, and i've spent a considerable amount of time looking.
Currently I'm specced heavy on pet stuff, as i soloed all the way to 56 pretty much.
Eventually i'm going to have to switch to being a dps machine.
So is 31/20 the way to go?
This is pretty much what i'm looking at
Improved Aspect of the Hawk Rank 5
Endurance Training Rank 5
Bestial Swiftness Rank 1
Unleashed Fury Rank 4
Thick Hide Rank 5
Beast Mastery Total: 20
Marksmanship Mastery
Improved Concussive Shot Rank 5
Improved Hunter's Mark Rank 5
Lethal Shots Rank 5
Aimed Shot Rank 1
Mortal Shots Rank 5
Scatter Shot Rank 1
Hawk Eye Rank 3
Ranged Weapon Specialization Rank 5
Trueshot Aura Rank 1
Marksmanship Total: 31
A question i have though is this: Why is concussive shot better than efficiency? For a PvE build, should I be firing concussive shot at every mob with a chance of stunning and reducing damage?
Is that better than the 10% mana save? How useful is concussive shot? I really only use it when i fight runners (rarely) or in pvp...
hepl
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khrath
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 8750
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 08:14 Post subject:
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man i was jackin with that earlier.
I have no clue how it all works, i'm pretty much just hoping I'm not spending too many points i'll want back.
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Ashenor
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 1539
Location: Metro Detroit
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 10:05 Post subject:
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I will have to look at mine but i have more in marksmanship then that, after that i have the leftovers in beast.
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Nictathan
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 5531
Location: here... where I am... not with you
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 15:24 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | man i was jackin with that earlier.
I have no clue how it all works, i'm pretty much just hoping I'm not spending too many points i'll want back. |
You can reset em for a gold...
which server did you end up on Khrath?
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Malik
Luke Warm
Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 205
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:23 Post subject:
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Replace Thick Hide(5) with Ferocity(5). If you're going for DPS, +15% crit for pets is huge. My pet has a 23-25% crit rate.
Replace Improved Hunter's Mark(5) with Efficiency(5). Max hunters mark is 110 at 60. 15% of 110 = 16.5 attack power for 5 talent points. That's 8agi, or about 1 dps (14 atk power = 1dps i think).
Efficiency is like adding 10% to your total mana, still not great, but points need to be spent to get further down the tree, and it just doesn't seem worth it to spend 5 talent points for 16.5 attack power.
Plus if you have a w***e warlock like Yanbik in your guild, half the time your hunters mark is overwritten by his 239048234 dots. 
Change those 2 and it's the exact template i'm using.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:37 Post subject:
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I\'m surprised this thread doesn\'t exist. Maybe it does. Maybe YOU don\'t exist. Maybe YOU ruined your own lands.
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Vekril
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 15 Oct 2002
Posts: 2525
Location: Jersey
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 18:06 Post subject:
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| Quote: | Spork - L60 Hunter - Garona
Nessa - L54 Mage - Garona |
now that's a lot of playtime
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
Joined: 26 Oct 2002
Posts: 1269
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 18:49 Post subject:
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/nod
You playing or going to play WoW, Vek?
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ashwynd
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 1686
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 19:11 Post subject:
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Class: Hunter
Level: 60
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Beast Mastery Talents (5 points)
Improved Aspect of the Hawk - 5/5 points
Increases the Ranged Attack Power bonus of your Aspect of the Hawk by 20%.
Marksmanship Talents (35 points)
Improved Concussive Shot - 5/5 points
Gives your Concussive Shot a 20% chance to stun the target for 3 seconds.
Efficiency - 5/5 points
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shots and Stings by 10%.
Improved Hunter's Mark - 5/5 points
Increases the Ranged Attack Power bonus of your Hunter's Mark spell by 15%.
Lethal Shots - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance with ranged weapons by 5%.
Aimed Shot - 1/1 point
An aimed shot that increases ranged damage by 70.
Mortal Shots - 5/5 points
Increases your ranged weapon critical strike damage bonus by 50%.
Hawk Eye - 3/3 points
Increases the range of your ranged weapons by 6 yards.
Ranged Weapon Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage you deal with ranged weapons by 5%.
Trueshot Aura - 1/1 point
Increases the Ranged and Melee Attack Power of party members within 30 yards by 30. (does up to 120 atk I'm told at level 60 from higher ranks, lasts 30 minutes and has no refresh timer! Great for group utility)
Scatter Shot - 1/1 point
Survival Talents (11 points)
Precision - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.
Improved Wing Clip - 5/5 points
Gives your Wing Clip ability a 20% chance to immobilize the target for 5 seconds.
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Vekril
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 15 Oct 2002
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Location: Jersey
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:07 Post subject:
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| Quote: | /nod
You playing or going to play WoW, Vek? |
I never played any of the new games before when they came out, just EQ and Realm before it. Thankfully I really do not have much interest in trying WoW atm.
Trying my hardest to find a new career so I can move back into NYC with my girlfriend, do not really ever see myself gaming again. If I do start up again, it will mean that my life is back in the s*****r and I am hiding from problems once more...
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Psink
Toomuchtimeonhands
Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:36 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | | Quote: | Spork - L60 Hunter - Garona
Nessa - L54 Mage - Garona |
now that's a lot of playtime |
And you know this because you're playing WoW? The first 60 had something like 7 days played, I have 21 days played so a 60 and a 54 isn't neccesarily a lot of playtime.
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atarom
Dalai Lama of RealPoor
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: 375th st. Y
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:53 Post subject:
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Really ashwynd, you think that survival talents are worth it in PvE?
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atarom
Dalai Lama of RealPoor
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Location: 375th st. Y
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 21:01 Post subject:
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ok replace hunters mark with efficiency?
i think this might be it
Improved Concussive Shot Rank 5/5
Efficiency Rank 5/5
Lethal Shots Rank 5/5
Aimed Shot Rank 1
Mortal Shots Rank 5/5
Scatter Shot Rank 1
Hawk Eye Rank 3/3
Ranged Weapon Specialization Rank 5/5
Trueshot Aura Rank 1
Marksmanship Total: 31
Beast Mastery Mastery
Improved Aspect of the Hawk Rank 5/5
Endurance Training Rank 5/5
Unleashed Fury Rank 5/5
Ferocity Rank 5/5
Beast Mastery Total: 20
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khrath
RealPoor Master of Posts
Joined: 11 Oct 2002
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 08:14 Post subject:
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most of this stuff really doesn't look like it's all that big of a deal really, am I right?
whats up with survival though, that s***s worthless.
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FockTop
Sir Postalot
Joined: 23 Dec 2004
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 11:53 Post subject:
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Anyway you can add all the skills that you want to try to be cool and might even be damn hard to kill in battle 1 against 1 but in large scale battle it really wont matter how you built your toon.
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