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Grummpy
Luke Warm
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 Posted: 03/26/03 - 18:27 Post subject: Human shields , human shields.
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Someone tell me why these a******s who went to Iraq cant and shouldnt be charged with Treason During wartime and lose there Citizenship?
Treason:
Pronunciation: 'trE-z&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR
Date: 13th century
1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family
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Haroun Zehra
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 18:33 Post subject:
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Because they're protecting non-combatants.
If you protect enemy forces or installments, you're a traitor. If you're protecting civilians, you're just an idiot.
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Grummpy
Luke Warm
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 18:55 Post subject:
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Ahhh.. ok that makes sense, But I personaly see it as Being a traitor. and to go to that extreme should at least cause them the lose there Citizenship.
Let them find out first hand why its happening.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:39 Post subject:
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it is actually being a traitor but the media frowns on us executing retarded 25 year olds so we just sit tight and hope the bombs get um... just like that lady who got run over in israel let krama run its course.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:46 Post subject: Re: Human shields , human shields.
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| Grummpy wrote: | 1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family |
Well, I'd guess because they didn't try to overthrow the government; they just tried to change its behaviour. They certainly didn't try to kill or personally injure anyone. So it doesn't really fit the definition.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:48 Post subject:
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Intentionally sabotaging military battle plans is treasonous.
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:49 Post subject:
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Where's your freedom if you can't stand for what you believe in, in a peacefull way, without losing your citizinship?
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:51 Post subject:
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Stand for what you believe in here, by protesting.
Don't go over there and attempt to cause our soldiers to divert their battle tactics so they don't have to blow your ass up, possibly getting themselves killed in doing it.
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:54 Post subject:
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They make the choice of going there to protect civilians. If they do, they also make the choice to be in the same position they are. If the get bombed, they die. Why would it divert your battle tactics? They didn't change them for human shields in '90
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:55 Post subject:
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If they don't, fine, they run the risk of getting bombed.
If we do have to change anything to accomodate them, f*****g execute them when they get back to the states.
<3 u FK
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:57 Post subject:
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wtf is your problem?
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 19:58 Post subject:
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?????????????
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sinrakin
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 20:04 Post subject:
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Well, if you're going to execute them when they get back to the states, you might just as well bomb them 
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 20:16 Post subject:
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Well, the point im getting at is that when we are at war like we are right now, whats the difference if you sell the enemy war Aids such as guns,missles,war plans ect. to help the Enemy out, or you go there and lay in front of the places most likly to be bombed there for your person becomes the war Aid to the enemy in a sense the same as Guns,missles Protective gear ect.
how ever you look at it the point is your helping out the enemy in disreguard to your country goal.
whether or not your doing this knowingly or not its still Treason IMO, they midas well knit a kevlar Blanket to give to Iraq to Drape the Highly Bomb areas.
It just plain Wrong IMO.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 20:20 Post subject:
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Further proof that liberals don't think of anybody but their f*****g selves
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Grummpy
Luke Warm
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 20:28 Post subject:
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Im mean common, If you say there Human shielding the citizens well thats a waste cause were not intrested in them.
they better have a lot of sun block cause its gonna be a lot of long / boreing days sitting there.
Were bombing military and leadership areas. and thats where there at From what I understand.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 03/26/03 - 22:43 Post subject:
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They are probably feeling a little queasy. President Bush should address them in his next speech: "And for those of you who have decided to become 'human shields' in Iraq, your brave sacrifice shall ring true to us all many years after your imminent death."
Then we'll see how many return to take care of their "sick" mothers.
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