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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 09:33    Post subject: Horizons... Reply with quote

...comes out tomorrow, who's getting it? I know there hasn't been much good said about it, but I've been waiting for this game for 3 years so damnit I'm going to play whether it sucks or not. Who's with me?
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 10:19    Post subject: Re: Horizons... Reply with quote

Owyyn wrote:
...comes out tomorrow, who's getting it? I know there hasn't been much good said about it, but I've been waiting for this game for 3 years so damnit I'm going to play whether it sucks or not. Who's with me?


I had originally planned to play it before the blackout, but i lost interest by the time they started releasing info again. I know a few people who beta tested it and they were not impressed so I will not even bother heh.

/em continues waiting for EQ2
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 10:49    Post subject: Re: Horizons... Reply with quote

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...comes out tomorrow, who's getting it? I know there hasn't been much good said about it, but I've been waiting for this game for 3 years so damnit I'm going to play whether it sucks or not. Who's with me?


Few things...most of the ennemies are undead only. there are NO dungeons at all in the game. So mosly a game like SB.

Most of the classes that were supposed to be at the released are NOT which mean 1 thing..rush..lack of money...game that wont go anywere.

It will prob have a release like SB lots of curious...then slowly but faster then SB and many others the poppulation will go down.

What I find funny is that many many online rpg are comming out ..they all hope to win the jackpot without considering the fact that the number of people who like these games is very limited.

No game will ever beat EQ ever. So...
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

With time it will get more updates... hopefully at least.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owyyn wrote:
With time it will get more updates... hopefully at least.


Like every other games..but you know like me that if there is no dungeons....its f*****g boring and tghey cant add this via patches.

Nothing to lose anyway to wait and read forums.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

they took out vampires..i hate'em now =(
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't dungeons be made later on? It's not impossible...
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buntz wrote:
they took out vampires..i hate'em now =(


Not only that also underwater race, these 2 where besides dragon the reason to play oh and also angel.

They cant do it its just as simple as that. They did their best to keep dragon to prevent everyone from running away but I bit that having a dragon fly will be buggy as hell and almost unplayable.


For once folks dont waste your money on a game in a rush wait for critics.

Hell in a month they will prob offer a free trial lol
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys think any game will ever have the success EQ had? Seems like we've been waiting for years, and it's just not going to happen. I wonder if the games aren't as good, or expectations are just too high now, or if we all know better than to get sucked in as much so it doesn't seem as compelling.

Just seems like EQ was something that will never be repeated. When I think of all the faults EQ had, it seems like we excused a lot more than we're willing to put up with now, because it was the only choice.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinrakin wrote:
You guys think any game will ever have the success EQ had? Seems like we've been waiting for years, and it's just not going to happen. I wonder if the games aren't as good, or expectations are just too high now, or if we all know better than to get sucked in as much so it doesn't seem as compelling.

Just seems like EQ was something that will never be repeated. When I think of all the faults EQ had, it seems like we excused a lot more than we're willing to put up with now, because it was the only choice.


Well if you compare EQ at release with many game like DAoC and SB and SWG at their release...they did not bad at all, what saved EQis that it was the only game avaliable.

Also EQ at release was indeed very bugged.

In a year there will be like 5-6 new online RPG so...there isnt enough room for everyone.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell are you people talking about? Lineage has over 2,000,000 subscribers in asia. WoW is going to be hitting asian and us markets. Warcraft is an unbelievable phenomenon in Korea. WoW will crush everquest in subscriptions. Add in all the people who play wc3 and dont play any mmorpgs already.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think expectations are too high. There really hasn't been a decent mmorpg after EQ, FF11 is a good game, but it wasn't as good as eq, prolly only cause leveling felt even slower and death exp was uber gay.

In closing, no expextations aren't too high.

Example- Gran Turismo 3, greatest racer of all time, there hasn't ben an overall better one since then, but there have been a lot of better arcade / specialty racers that came out after. And I'm sure GT4 will be better overall.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if DAoC or SB or whatever would have been out when EQ was release with the stupid exp penalty when we had no exp res..many many people would have left EQ.

And Al you are right WoW is prob the only one beside the LoTR online rpg that has chance to beat EQ and place themself as number 1.

Way too early to tell cause we stil ldont even know what will be the official game contain at release.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was waiting on Horizons for a long time...But now I dunno.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paden wrote:
I was waiting on Horizons for a long time...But now I dunno.


me too , but with all the cuts before the release it only mean that its a rush. Look at games that promissed lots of stuff ...after 1 year if not more they still dont have the content originaly promissed.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 12:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everquest,

I think the main reason this game is still around and kicking, is after a long ass time of doing just normaly exp is well the loot in the game. Loot and the high end game are keeping alot of people who would normaly have stopped playing, playing. SWG, very beatuful game but after like a month of playing you pretty much max out your toon, get the best equipment in the game and your done. EQ, keeps on going and going.

I do belive that the only games that have a chance up putting EQ in number two slot are WoW or EQ2. I can only pray that WoW will have high end content cause if not it will get boring after a while. And EQ2 should have high end content or Sony would have gone retarted if they took it out.

As for Horizens, I remember reading about this game like 3 years ago but lost tottaly interest, and the fact that they took out vampires makes me go Sad. I highly doubt I will even look at getting this game.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 12:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFXI is doing pretty well. If you are waiting for EQ2 you are setting yourself up for some major dissapointment.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 12:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason Everquest does so well is:

1. It was really fun when you first started
2. Now that you've played you don't want to quit because you've put so much effort into your toons
3. It replaces your RL goals with virtual goals that you can actually complete, which in turn releases endorphines into your system
4. It's also a gigantic chatroom
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 13:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
The reason Everquest does so well is:

1. It was really fun when you first started
2. Now that you've played you don't want to quit because you've put so much effort into your toons
3. It replaces your RL goals with virtual goals that you can actually complete, which in turn releases endorphines into your system
4. It's also a gigantic chatroom


Pretty accurate summary.

It's really tough to give up on something when you've put in so much time.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 13:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFXI seems nicer then Lineage...but EQ has set the groundwork that other games will have to rival...as we have high standards now.

I'm looking forward to this game... http://www.warhammeronline.com/ ...can't wait to see how it plays, but it's still far off to Gold release.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 13:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFXI has already beaten EQ in subscribers :/

Hail tot he king baby

(till the next greatest thing comes out, which will probably be WOW )
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 13:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinrakin wrote:
You guys think any game will ever have the success EQ had? Seems like we've been waiting for years, and it's just not going to happen. I wonder if the games aren't as good, or expectations are just too high now, or if we all know better than to get sucked in as much so it doesn't seem as compelling.

Just seems like EQ was something that will never be repeated. When I think of all the faults EQ had, it seems like we excused a lot more than we're willing to put up with now, because it was the only choice.


Star Wars Galaxies is already approaching EQ numbers of accounts and it's not even a year old, and is still exclusively US based I think?

WoW and whatever game SigilGames has coming are going to blow the doors wide open on this market.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 14:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend runs the ac1/AC2 server farm and has been aproached by Sigil to help them with thier launch, but everything is very very Hush hush.
We shall see whats in the pipe, but it should be big.


Also down the road is LOTR online and AD&D online, these, if turbine doesnt s***w the pooch, shgould be big games too.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 14:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bait Masterson wrote:
My friend runs the ac1/AC2 server farm and has been aproached by Sigil to help them with thier launch, but everything is very very Hush hush.
We shall see whats in the pipe, but it should be big.


Also down the road is LOTR online and AD&D online, these, if turbine doesnt s***w the pooch, shgould be big games too.


Same publisher for AC1/AC2 and the Sigil game (Vanguard is the one leaked name), and that publisher is: Microsoft. Makes sense they'd want some common infrastructure.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i first heard about ADnD online i was geeked. Too bad its so damn far away.

Im glad Middle Earth online is finally comming out. They only annouced it 5 years ago =)
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 15:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone mind throwing the link down to the D&D online game as well as the LotR online game as well? Thanks a ton folks.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 17:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

the beta sucked, the game is empty like a clogged toilet, full of shit waiting to be plunged.

i was in the 3rd and final phases of beta, neither of those phases phased me to even buy retail.

its boring as shit basically
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 20:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh I know but they are trying to get him to work on the sigil team instead of for the zone.
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PostPosted: 12/08/03 - 20:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
sinrakin wrote:
You guys think any game will ever have the success EQ had? Seems like we've been waiting for years, and it's just not going to happen. I wonder if the games aren't as good, or expectations are just too high now, or if we all know better than to get sucked in as much so it doesn't seem as compelling.

Just seems like EQ was something that will never be repeated. When I think of all the faults EQ had, it seems like we excused a lot more than we're willing to put up with now, because it was the only choice.


Star Wars Galaxies is already approaching EQ numbers of accounts and it's not even a year old, and is still exclusively US based I think?

WoW and whatever game SigilGames has coming are going to blow the doors wide open on this market.


SWG has almost as many people? That's unbelievable, that game f*****g blew.
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