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Aandidar
Sir Postalot

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1182
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:19 Post subject: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay)
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Marriage is a privellage not a right.
Priest/Pastor/Minister/other religious members can refuse to marry a couple. You don't get to get married "just because".
Although the court house will marry you, all you gotta do is pay the fee.
I am married, to a woman, many people on rp know her, she's a cutie
I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper.
Aren't homosexual's just complaining that they don't get the same rights and breaks as married couples? That sounds like a pretty disturbing reason to get married.
Stick to your civil unions if that's all you want. Homosexuals will basicly only be married in a court house. Won't be able to get married in a church... well most churchs. Deffiently not a Catholic church.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:28 Post subject:
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soon they wont be married anywhere in this country. maybe they will all move to europe.
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:32 Post subject:
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I want to move that all caucasians be called "black" or "african americans" in the U.S.
Then we can get college money from the UNCF.
wouldnt that be the same as gays being allowed to be "married"?
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lodie
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:42 Post subject:
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they want to be allowed "civil unions" with the same rights as a "married" couple.
why is your marriage cheapened by that? is your marriage not cheapened by the increasing divorce rate? is it not cheapened by people who don't get married because of "true love?"
what are you scared of? homosexual couples being able to adopt, raise kids? can they not love each other?
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Callaren
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 1598
Location: South Jersey
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:50 Post subject:
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| Aandidar wrote: | | I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper. |
Not all gays think that marriage is there for the legal benefits, it can have a deeper meaning to them too.
| Aandidar wrote: | | Aren't homosexual's just complaining that they don't get the same rights and breaks as married couples? That sounds like a pretty disturbing reason to get married. |
Why'd you get married? You love that person don't you? A gay's love for their partner is the same as yours. Why deny gays the same marriage where 2 people declare love for each other?
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:50 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | they want to be allowed "civil unions" with the same rights as a "married" couple.
why is your marriage cheapened by that? is your marriage not cheapened by the increasing divorce rate? is it not cheapened by people who don't get married because of "true love?"
what are you scared of? homosexual couples being able to adopt, raise kids? can they not love each other? |
"they" also want it to be called marriage. And I'm scared of my taxes going up and my insurance costs going up among other things because our system is not designed with that in it right now.
If it were that gays wanted just to be recognized as a couple and called it a civil union, this wouldnt be an issue because it already is that way
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Starks
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 865
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:51 Post subject:
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There is a difference between a union of two people and a marriage under God. The term marriage is thrown around because it is generic and easy to use. Again I will go back to our constitution where it separates religion from state. RELIGION FROM STATE. Or you can easily check out the first amendment. Saying to same **** people cannot be brought together is saying like two buddhists cannot be married or two atheists. What is wrong with two people wanting to be recogonized in a union anyways? They don't save money on their taxes, health insurance companies make more money, and lastly it gets rid of the controversy about the issue.
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lodie
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:55 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: |
If it were that gays wanted just to be recognized as a couple and called it a civil union, this wouldnt be an issue because it already is that way |
negative. they don't have the same rights. this is what they want.
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lodie
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:57 Post subject:
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unfortunately, i'm not familiar with the insurance system as it is, so you're probably correct there.
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:57 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | | kireol wrote: |
If it were that gays wanted just to be recognized as a couple and called it a civil union, this wouldnt be an issue because it already is that way |
negative. they don't have the same rights. this is what they want. |
did you bother reading everything that I typed or just hit the quote button and mash some keys?
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lodie
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 00:59 Post subject:
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i just mashed random keys that happened to form correctly phrased words into sentences. i'm confused as to why you're upset by my reply given both my posts.
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:01 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | | i just mashed random keys that happened to form correctly phrased words into sentences. i'm confused as to why you're upset by my reply given both my posts. |
because you said negative to a quote of my text, as if something I said was wrong. then babbled about something that I could care less about because it didnt make any sense or hold any value after your 1 word sentence.
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Aandidar
Sir Postalot

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1182
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:26 Post subject:
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| Callaren wrote: | | Aandidar wrote: | | I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper. |
Not all gays think that marriage is there for the legal benefits, it can have a deeper meaning to them too.
| Aandidar wrote: | | Aren't homosexual's just complaining that they don't get the same rights and breaks as married couples? That sounds like a pretty disturbing reason to get married. |
Why'd you get married? You love that person don't you? A gay's love for their partner is the same as yours. Why deny gays the same marriage where 2 people declare love for each other? |
A homosexual's love for their partner is not the same as mine. Theirs is a mental imbalance or caused by a experience/enviroment. "I was born gay" - b******t. No one is born anything, something happens, you were around or took part in something that caused you to become gay.
But I'm getting off-topic here. "a marriage under god" homosexuality is not condoned in religion. It is a spiritual binding of souls, in the eyes of god, so on so on. Minion would say I'm a raving Jesus freak/Bible thumper. Fact is I have religious morals, and respect for custom.
What's next, Mr. Farmer marries his sheep? Homosexuals are not widely excepted as the norm. They most likely never will, or it will take a long time. I don't think an admendment will pass, I believe it will be left up to states to decide for themselves. Some states will allow it but most conservative states will not.
Don't plan on getting married in the southern states. So then what, we'll then have states labeled as homosexual states because all gay people will move to them?
It's a ridiculess contraversy brought up by a ridiculess problem. We have anti-depression medication. Someone invent some anti-homosexuality pills. Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that's all. The same as someone wanting to have **** with a dog/sheep/goat/horse/ect. A chemical imbalance in the brain.
I'm not scared of anything. Gay people are like the noisy people next door, I tolerate them. I don't have to like them.
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Goraz
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3736
Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:28 Post subject:
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The flyers beat chicago 3-1 tonight.
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Aandidar
Sir Postalot

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1182
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:30 Post subject:
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| Goraz wrote: | | The flyers beat chicago 3-1 tonight. |
yay ^^
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lodie
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:30 Post subject:
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sorry kireol, maybe i don't read so well - thought you meant something you didn't.
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quotison
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 1594
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:35 Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay)
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| Aandidar wrote: | | I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper. |
Really?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/05/britney.annulled/index.html
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:37 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | | sorry kireol, maybe i don't read so well - thought you meant something you didn't. |
np
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Aandidar
Sir Postalot

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1182
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 01:54 Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay)
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I don't agree with it, which is why I haven't read anything about it. They got married at what Las Vegas or a court house? Most likely Las Vegas.
Atleast is was a man and a woman. I don't care that homosexual's want to be "together" I care that they want to call it marriage. The word marriage is sacred. Has to do with religion. Something you should do in a church under god. Call it a legal union.
/religious rant off
Being contraversial is fun.
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Callaren
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 1598
Location: South Jersey
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:02 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that's all. |
CDC says homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
No one knows why people are gay, there's opinions but how is someone who's not gay going to start telling reasons why people are gay? (not just you, there's others I'm sure)
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:08 Post subject:
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In addition to being called black, I'm going to preface my name with Doctor. I want the same rights and priviledges as doctors
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Tiluvas
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 2355
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:10 Post subject:
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On my way home from work today, I was trying to discover the reason of why I am so obsessed with c***s. I got to thinking of my childhood, and I realized that my two best friends fathers both had phallic oriented names. d**k and Rod. I wonder if this fact has any correlation?
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:13 Post subject:
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i once worked with a richard head at ford
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Nuldaan
Sir Postalot

Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 1179
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:25 Post subject:
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| Goraz wrote: | | The flyers beat chicago 3-1 tonight. |
Gum stays in your stomach for 7 years.
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Aandidar
Sir Postalot

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1182
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:34 Post subject:
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| Callaren wrote: | | Quote: | | Homosexuality is a mental disorder, that's all. |
CDC says homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
No one knows why people are gay, there's opinions but how is someone who's not gay going to start telling reasons why people are gay? (not just you, there's others I'm sure) |
and my opinion is that it is a mental disorder. Too bad they lifted the law that made butt **** illegal. That was some funny shit.
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mixelplux
Luke Warm

Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 344
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:43 Post subject:
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If God existed, he'd be gay.. yub!
Marriages suck, gay or hetero. All you freaks holding on to some overly romantic notion of some stupid ideal, suck.
Yub!
Mix
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Callaren
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 1598
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 02:47 Post subject:
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Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted.
Not that it matters.
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Buntz
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 3340
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 03:07 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | soon they wont be married anywhere in this country. maybe they will all move to europe. |
I like your thinking sir.
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 03:17 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | they want to be allowed "civil unions" with the same rights as a "married" couple.
why is your marriage cheapened by that? is your marriage not cheapened by the increasing divorce rate? is it not cheapened by people who don't get married because of "true love?"
what are you scared of? homosexual couples being able to adopt, raise kids? can they not love each other? |
Putting mutants on the same lv as normal humans in regards to marriage is wrong.
Marriage is for a man and a woman.
Two homosexuals shacking up because of their perverted **** attraction to the same **** is just that, shacking up.
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Nuldaan
Sir Postalot

Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 1179
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 03:23 Post subject:
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| lodie wrote: | they want to be allowed "civil unions" with the same rights as a "married" couple.
why is your marriage cheapened by that? is your marriage not cheapened by the increasing divorce rate? is it not cheapened by people who don't get married because of "true love?"
what are you scared of? homosexual couples being able to adopt, raise kids? can they not love each other? |
I posted something about this in this thread...on page 5, I believe.
http://www.realpoor.com/viewtopic.php?t=21283&start=120
Anyway, it'd be silly for me to retype my response because someone felt the need to start yet another thread about a topic that is still on the first page.
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