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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 03:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homosexuality is an STD spread by bisexuals and rapists.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 03:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aandidar wrote:
"I was born gay" - b******t. No one is born anything.

and my opinion is that homosexuality is a mental disorder.



but... aandi... people are born with mental disorders all the time...

now im not agreeing with you that h**o is a mental disorder =P just showing you argue with yerself....

and.. can we get one of the gays to post that bit in the bible about god striking down he who spilled his seed... cause i garuntee aandidar has busted a few nuts without the intent of reproduction.... since hes going all sacred on us =p
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 04:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spink...

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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 04:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What the hell?
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 13:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolanin wrote:
soon they wont be married anywhere in this country. maybe they will all move to europe.
Where people are tollerant and open minded, and not overuse "freedom" without backing it up? I don't understand what the big deal is =/ Does allowing same **** marriages make you feel less of a man, does it make your marriage less of a union? Does it really affect your life enough to deny other people that right?
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 21:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's kinda like here at work. We have this kitchen that's just for directers, managers and VPs.

If we let all the normal colleagues into the private kitchen it wouldn't be special any more. And I know they'd eat the donuts I keep in there. That'd p**s me off.

Yes... good enough example. That is all.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 22:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryz wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
"I was born gay" - b******t. No one is born anything.

and my opinion is that homosexuality is a mental disorder.



but... aandi... people are born with mental disorders all the time...

now im not agreeing with you that h**o is a mental disorder =P just showing you argue with yerself....

and.. can we get one of the gays to post that bit in the bible about god striking down he who spilled his seed... cause i garuntee aandidar has busted a few nuts without the intent of reproduction.... since hes going all sacred on us =p


what else do you define it as, nature didnt make animals with no desire to reproduce. Its a genetic disorder.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 23:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryz wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
"I was born gay" - b******t. No one is born anything.

and my opinion is that homosexuality is a mental disorder.



but... aandi... people are born with mental disorders all the time...

now im not agreeing with you that h**o is a mental disorder =P just showing you argue with yerself....

and.. can we get one of the gays to post that bit in the bible about god striking down he who spilled his seed... cause i garuntee aandidar has busted a few nuts without the intent of reproduction.... since hes going all sacred on us =p


Now you're just picking at straws Cryz ;p

They aren't just born with the desire to have **** with other men. It either has to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain or something that happend to them at some point in life that effected them in an adverse way. Or a combination of the two maybe.

The understanding of the human brain is very limited. Something may have happend, subject has repressed it which is human nature, but the imprint is always there.

I don't pretend to understand why people are gay. I don't pretend to accept it. I tolerate it. It's un-natraul, morally wrong, and just plain wrong a few more lvls. If you want to be gay, go ahead. I just don't wanna hear about it. You don't need to run down the street waving a banner about how you want the same rights as straight people.

Want the same rights? Live the same way. Be straight. Get married to a woman. Live happily every after. yay.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 01:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They aren't just born with the desire to have **** with other men. It either has to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain or something that happend to them at some point in life that effected them in an adverse way. Or a combination of the two maybe.
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Want the same rights? Live the same way. Be straight. Get married to a woman. Live happily every after. yay.

Poeple are born with cerebral palsy or a physical disabilty all the time. Those people have the same rights as other people without those disabilities. Even IF homosexuality was a mental disorder, since other disabled people get same rights, so should gays.

"...all men are created equal..."
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aandidar wrote:
A homosexual's love for their partner is not the same as mine. Theirs is a mental imbalance or caused by a experience/enviroment.


hahahaha... new sig material. Let it be a testament to your everlasting stupidity.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, nice.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
A homosexual's love for their partner is not the same as mine. Theirs is a mental imbalance or caused by a experience/enviroment.


hahahaha... new sig material. Let it be a testament to your everlasting stupidity.

-Nah-


Its been tested before, and hasn't been proven wrong or right. No need to say he is stupid for any other reason than that he is.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

GruntingCod wrote:
Nahualli wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
A homosexual's love for their partner is not the same as mine. Theirs is a mental imbalance or caused by a experience/enviroment.


hahahaha... new sig material. Let it be a testament to your everlasting stupidity.

-Nah-


Its been tested before, and hasn't been proven wrong or right. No need to say he is stupid for any other reason than that he is.


No he's stupid because he is making nothing more than a baseless assumption on something he knows nothing about. Unles he is gay and has loved someone else he can't possibly quantify that gay love is not the same as straight love.

It's called "talking out of your ass" and you of all people should be brutally familiar with the phrase.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember hearing a while ago that the CDC (Center for Disease Control) has determined that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Said it back in the first page.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 03:25    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Aandidar wrote:
Marriage is a privellage not a right. (1)

Priest/Pastor/Minister/other religious members can refuse to marry a couple. You don't get to get married "just because". (2)

Although the court house will marry you, all you gotta do is pay the fee.

I am married, to a woman, many people on rp know her, she's a cutie Wink

I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper. (3)

Aren't homosexual's just complaining that they don't get the same rights and breaks as married couples? That sounds like a pretty disturbing reason to get married.

Stick to your civil unions if that's all you want. (4) Homosexuals will basicly only be married in a court house. Won't be able to get married in a church... well most churchs. Deffiently not a Catholic church. (5)


You should have stopped here. Maybe you shouldn't even have posted this but it's ok.. I needed something to laugh at, you've provided an invaluable service. But I feel obligated to break it down for you. Since your post was so misguided from the start I felt the need to break it down.

(1) Wrong. It should be everyone's RIGHT to marry whom they love. It shouldn't be a priviledge. On the most fundamental level you are so wrong.

(2) No heterosexual has EVER gotten married "just because". They all cared truly and deeply for one another. Can you claim the preceding statements to be completely true? If you do, I'll start naming names for you. Do you want me to?

(3) Precisely why gays want to be able to have this right. Because we're capable of feeling also. Just like you.

(4) I'm sorry... what civil unions? You mean the federally protected ones? Oh, right... psssh... silly me.

(5) I can't think of a single gay friend of mine who would want to get married in your s****y church. I hope a priest molests your kids some day. Keep your money-grubbing corrupt-ass business of a Church, I want nothing from it. Just give me a federally recognized and protected status that equates to being married in everything but the name.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 11:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aandidar wrote:


Want the same rights? Live the same way.


oh... sorry... if i had known we were dealing with a new brand of nazi i wouldnt have wasted time posting Very Happy

but sir, if you hadent noticed, this country likes to flaunt the idea of freedom.... and we still have f***s like you... but worse.. because they have power... who want to dictate the way our "free" countrymen and women live their lives....

and if they werent born gay... they were americans first... either way they should have their rights....
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 11:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, CDC site search sucks as well as their downloads of PDF files.
So, a google search found these 2 pages:

http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/news/2003/10/28/Viewpoint/Homosexuality.Not.A.Mental.Disorder-540510.shtml
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First, in support of his view that homosexuality is a "psychological disorder," Gerardi cites the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, a group that promotes the "curing" of homosexuality through "reparative" or "conversion" therapy. It should be noted that no published scientific evidence supports such a view, and all valid health and mental health professional organizations, including the American Medical Association, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, staunchly oppose any assumption that homosexuality is a mental disorder.


http://www.fact-index.com/h/ho/homosexuality_and_psychology.html
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Declassification

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the revised Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) after intense debate. They stated that homosexuality "does not necessarily constitute a psychiatric disorder." Effectively, this saw its official acceptance as a viable **** orientation and saw the increase in gay liberation throughout the Western world.

Many other associations across the world followed suit soon after. The American Psychoanalytic Association made similar steps and began accepting openly homosexual men and women. However, it wasn't until 1992 that the World Health Organisation ceased to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder, followed by the Chinese Psychiatric Association in 2001.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 11:18    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Aandidar wrote:
Marriage is a privellage not a right. (1)

Priest/Pastor/Minister/other religious members can refuse to marry a couple. You don't get to get married "just because". (2)

Although the court house will marry you, all you gotta do is pay the fee.

I am married, to a woman, many people on rp know her, she's a cutie Wink

I will not have my union cheapened by allowing same **** couples the same privellage. Marriage is special, it's not just a title you get to carry around and have rings put on your fingers, it's something deeper. (3)

Aren't homosexual's just complaining that they don't get the same rights and breaks as married couples? That sounds like a pretty disturbing reason to get married.

Stick to your civil unions if that's all you want. (4) Homosexuals will basicly only be married in a court house. Won't be able to get married in a church... well most churchs. Deffiently not a Catholic church. (5)


You should have stopped here. Maybe you shouldn't even have posted this but it's ok.. I needed something to laugh at, you've provided an invaluable service. But I feel obligated to break it down for you. Since your post was so misguided from the start I felt the need to break it down.

(1) Wrong. It should be everyone's RIGHT to marry whom they love. It shouldn't be a priviledge. On the most fundamental level you are so wrong.

(2) No heterosexual has EVER gotten married "just because". They all cared truly and deeply for one another. Can you claim the preceding statements to be completely true? If you do, I'll start naming names for you. Do you want me to?

(3) Precisely why gays want to be able to have this right. Because we're capable of feeling also. Just like you.

(4) I'm sorry... what civil unions? You mean the federally protected ones? Oh, right... psssh... silly me.

(5) I can't think of a single gay friend of mine who would want to get married in your s****y church. I hope a priest molests your kids some day. Keep your money-grubbing corrupt-ass business of a Church, I want nothing from it. Just give me a federally recognized and protected status that equates to being married in everything but the name.

-Nah-


so if i love a soda can or a tree you think its ok that i marry it? Moron. Thats exactly why its not allowed and limited to only people of oposite ****, you can get married if you want, stop saying you cant, you just cant marry whoever or whatever you want.

Your point 2 while true is dumb, just because there are problems doesnt mean that the institution should be eroded even more by letting people marry anyone they love. Lots of things are capable of feeling, pedophiles are, they dont have rights, will you lobby for them, your counterparts in the courts will.

5. just shows how imbalanced you are, hoping some inocent child gets raped? Ya i really want public policy to be dictated by your ideas..

Lastly it is the right of the majority to decide which rights are granted and which are restricted. Discrimination is not allowed in this process however, and discrimination in this case is not being used. And also do you seriously think that genetic evolution intended for a species group to evolve to the point where they no longer wish to reproduce? How can you be so ignorant, everything we know points to the fact that humans are meant to be atLEAST bi ****, i can see a possibility for that but homosexuality is a disorder, and if everyone was homosexual the race would die, just like if everyone was insane we would die, just like if everyone was retarded we would die, just like any other disorder. It is plain and simply to a person OPEN minded enough to compare it. Offer me a comparrison that shows it is not a disorder compared to other things. The nuclear family creates the future, a gay family dies out.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 11:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

I <3 gay guys, they help me pick out clothes that pick up the chix...
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

GruntingCod wrote:
A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.


What?
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:33    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Tolanin wrote:
(1) so if i love a soda can or a tree you think its ok that i marry it? Moron.

Your point 2 while true is dumb, just because there are problems doesnt mean that the institution should be eroded even more by letting people marry anyone they love. Lots of things are capable of feeling, pedophiles are, they dont have rights, will you lobby for them, your counterparts in the courts will.

(2) just shows how imbalanced you are, hoping some inocent child gets raped? Ya i really want public policy to be dictated by your ideas..

Lastly it is the right of the majority to decide which rights are granted and which are restricted. Discrimination is not allowed in this process however, and discrimination in this case is not being used. And also do you seriously think that genetic evolution intended for a species group to evolve to the point where they no longer wish to reproduce? How can you be so ignorant, everything we know points to the fact that humans are meant to be atLEAST bi ****, i can see a possibility for that but homosexuality is a disorder, and if everyone was homosexual the race would die, just like if everyone was insane we would die, just like if everyone was retarded we would die, just like any other disorder. It is plain and simply to a person OPEN minded enough to compare it. Offer me a comparrison that shows it is not a disorder compared to other things. The nuclear family creates the future, a gay family dies out. (3)


(1) I didn't think you were this dumb. I guess you are.
(2) You can take that comment however you want. This is realpoor, I'm speaking in Realpoorese as a way of saying that the same institution that Aandidar holds as his guiding light of morality is the same institution that's molesting little boys and girls. Go ahead and hide behind it, I want nothing to do with it.

I could go so far as to say that religion is a mental disorder and people who are religious should not be allowed to marry but I won't open up that can of worms.

(3) Another totally stupid argument. Two gay men can't reproduce whether they are married or not. Limiting their ability to marry won't change this one iota. Also, if the small % of gay people in the world as compared to the hetero population is a threat to extinction, you can count on me to be knocking up the nearest chick in an attempt to preserve the species. It would be.... interesting but I'd do it somehow.

So again, your arguments are totally stupid. Either completely asinine (the coke can argument), choosing to dwell on details and sentimental b******t when you yourself have said some pretty mean-spirited things (the little kid comment) or not at all grounded in reality (the reproduction argument)

Anything else you want to bring to the table?

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
GruntingCod wrote:
A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.


What?


I think he meant he would like to see some facts not just "I'm right, you're wrong" as you're famous for saying.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:35    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Anything else you want to bring to the table?

stfu, f*g.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:38    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Nahualli wrote:
Anything else you want to bring to the table?

stfu, f*g.


Yeah you sure told me!
Way to go WNWS, way to go.

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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:39    Post subject: Re: Homosexual Marriage (another post about it, yay) Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
Nahualli wrote:
Anything else you want to bring to the table?

stfu, f*g.


Yeah you sure told me!
Way to go WNWS, way to go.

-Nah-

Hmmm...that used to be enough 10 years ago when f**s were recognized for what they are.
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Nahualli wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
GruntingCod wrote:
A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.


What?


I think he meant he would like to see some facts not just "I'm right, you're wrong" as you're famous for saying.

-Nah-



Here is a fact.

You are not welcome at the party. No matter how many arguments you put up.
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PostPosted: 02/26/04 - 12:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Nahualli wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
GruntingCod wrote:
A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.


What?


I think he meant he would like to see some facts not just "I'm right, you're wrong" as you're famous for saying.

-Nah-



Here is a fact.

You are not welcome at the party. No matter how many arguments you put up.


Yet.

-Nah-
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Nahualli wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Nahualli wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
GruntingCod wrote:
A while ago, as in the first page as you mentioned. I want some closure on this subject. Find it for me, not for a "I WANT TO BE SUPREME OVER EVERYONE ON REALPOOR" like kbarr or someone that doesn't give up, more of just a couriousity matter.


What?


I think he meant he would like to see some facts not just "I'm right, you're wrong" as you're famous for saying.

-Nah-



Here is a fact.

You are not welcome at the party. No matter how many arguments you put up.


Yet.

-Nah-


A judge can't "make" you welcome. You might get in, but will never be welcome. Thats what this is all about anyway.
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