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RealPoor Sensei
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This is the packaged version the US post office doesnt want you to see.
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Manuva
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Posted: 03/25/06 - 17:36 Post subject:
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| kbarr wrote: | | Manuva wrote: | | kbarr wrote: | | Put a reservist with a case of ammo every 500 yars along the border. Tell him to give one warning to anyone going over the fence, then start shooting. He doesn't have to kill the person, just make him dance, dance back over the to other side. Thats the cheapest way to end the problem:) |
300 yards!
I would seriously join the reserves for that job. It'd be like taking a weekend off to hunt and fish once a month. Except you're hunting wetbacks. With a high powered rifle. In a tower. Who wouldn't want to do that for a few days after their wife/friends/girlfriends p****d them off all week? |
Why 300?, my 300 WSM can reach out to 1 click with me behind the scope. Its a learned skill, anyone can get the hang of it.
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Was thinking it might be a little easier to see the f*****s from 300 yards out rather than 500
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RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 03/25/06 - 18:55 Post subject:
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There are 100,000 protesters in Los Angeles right now
LA riots all over again?
http://www.cnn.com/ (front page)
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 15:55 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | We need to get rid of the liberals. I can think of no better way to make the reebos of the world into nice landfills. |
See this is why if there was ever a war you would end up shooting more people who would be on your side than not.
You are stupid if you think I am liberal
You are stupid if you think this debate is really about the people
Tell me this, if this is such a liberal issue why are so many republicans for making some of them legal on or off the record.
I know this is realpoor and typing crap just to see it is normal here but if you don't think a large amount of those who call themselves republican or conservitive dont want cheap undoucmented labor you are a fool.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:02 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | | Quote: | | We need to get rid of the liberals. I can think of no better way to make the reebos of the world into nice landfills. |
See this is why if there was ever a war you would end up shooting more people who would be on your side than not.
You are stupid if you think I am liberal
You are stupid if you think this debate is really about the people
Tell me this, if this is such a liberal issue why are so many republicans for making some of them legal on or off the record.
I know this is realpoor and typing crap just to see it is normal here but if you don't think a large amount of those who call themselves republican or conservitive dont want cheap undoucmented labor you are a fool. |
Pure reeboism.
Do you have a point?
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:08 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | a large amount of those who call themselves republican or conservitive want cheap undoucmented labor |
There it is sparky.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:24 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | | Quote: | | a large amount of those who call themselves republican or conservitive want cheap undoucmented labor |
There it is sparky. |
Ok, but what is your POINT.
And I would disagree, they want cheap labor. I don't think they want to know where anyone is from. That will change soon. And it won't matter to me, i already mow my own lawn. I just used the illegals for back breaking work. When they disapear, I'll use my son:) Hes built like a brick shithouse:)
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:32 Post subject:
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I think you all are talking the reeboism to far because this exact same topic is going on at least 3 other boards and the same things are being typed.
Here it is as simple as i can make it.
My only point ever in this post was that this is not a liberal or bleeding heart issue. The reason you will NEVER see a full removal of illegals is because to many people want/need cheap undocumented labor.
Anyone with job or knows someone who has a labor intensive job can see it, right or left it doesn't matter people want workers who will work hard for 2.25 an hour and keep quiet and you will not get that from legal Americans.
Oh and by the way, the reason you will find legal Hispanics who will want illegals here is because just like many Chinese they exploit their own kind.
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Kenelm
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:47 Post subject:
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I wonder why they would be against it O.o.../ponder.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 16:59 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | I think you all are talking the reeboism to far because this exact same topic is going on at least 3 other boards and the same things are being typed.
Here it is as simple as i can make it.
My only point ever in this post was that this is not a liberal or bleeding heart issue. The reason you will NEVER see a full removal of illegals is because to many people want/need cheap undocumented labor.
Anyone with job or knows someone who has a labor intensive job can see it, right or left it doesn't matter people want workers who will work hard for 2.25 an hour and keep quiet and you will not get that from legal Americans.
Oh and by the way, the reason you will find legal Hispanics who will want illegals here is because just like many Chinese they exploit their own kind. |
Well if that is your point , then you are wrong. It is a liberal /conservative issue. Its not a Democrat/republican issue.
There are a lot of stupid fence sitters on both sides, but the core left and right know what they want. And I'm NOT talking about a small handful of billionaires who claim to be republican while they move their companies to SA or mexico. I'm talking about everyday people.
It most definitely IS a liberal conservative issue.
Wake up.
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 18:11 Post subject:
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| kbarr wrote: | | Reebo wrote: | I think you all are talking the reeboism to far because this exact same topic is going on at least 3 other boards and the same things are being typed.
Here it is as simple as i can make it.
My only point ever in this post was that this is not a liberal or bleeding heart issue. The reason you will NEVER see a full removal of illegals is because to many people want/need cheap undocumented labor.
Anyone with job or knows someone who has a labor intensive job can see it, right or left it doesn't matter people want workers who will work hard for 2.25 an hour and keep quiet and you will not get that from legal Americans.
Oh and by the way, the reason you will find legal Hispanics who will want illegals here is because just like many Chinese they exploit their own kind. |
Well if that is your point , then you are wrong. It is a liberal /conservative issue. Its not a Democrat/republican issue.
There are a lot of stupid fence sitters on both sides, but the core left and right know what they want. And I'm NOT talking about a small handful of billionaires who claim to be republican while they move their companies to SA or mexico. I'm talking about everyday people.
It most definitely IS a liberal conservative issue.
Wake up. |
I will agree that common liberals who are bleeding hearts will want all the illegals here and common conservatives will want them out.
But it is because of the billionaires that you will never see all the ilegals out. You really think a bunch of green peace hippies are going to win any real battles against immigration?
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Alerik
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There was an economic study done showing that for America to continue to grow at the pace we have enjoyed then we will need workers from outside of the country. Besides, most of them are willing to do jobs that most dont want to do.
And thankfully I was back in Madison the day of the protest, f*****s walked right past the office I work at.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 18:49 Post subject:
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I have no idea how this will turn out. I just know this, it will end up better than it is now. Now there is NO regulation. At least regulate, and put a fuckn fence up. I don't care if they let em in to dig holes, I already use them to do that. WE KNOW they are here already. Shit, if they make em semi legal I might rent apartments to them:) I know they will keep the place clean! They are hard workn people, thats a fuckn fact. Its the scumbags that I want stopped. A fence will at least help with that.
And lose the law that makes offspring of illegals citizens JUST because they are born here. If thats all they did I would be happy.
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 20:06 Post subject:
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| kbarr wrote: | I have no idea how this will turn out. I just know this, it will end up better than it is now. Now there is NO regulation. At least regulate, and put a fuckn fence up. I don't care if they let em in to dig holes, I already use them to do that. WE KNOW they are here already. Shit, if they make em semi legal I might rent apartments to them:) I know they will keep the place clean! They are hard workn people, thats a fuckn fact. Its the scumbags that I want stopped. A fence will at least help with that.
And lose the law that makes offspring of illegals citizens JUST because they are born here. If thats all they did I would be happy.
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If what you say is true, why did you have a problem when I said let the ones who have been here for years, have a job and no criminal record apply for citizenship?
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RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 20:27 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | | If what you say is true, why did you have a problem when I said let the ones who have been here for years, have a job and no criminal record apply for citizenship? |
They are illegals. Its apparant you are okay with that, by saying
"oh if they have been a certain number of years they might as well be a legal citizen."
Sorry to say... thats not how it works. Or should work for that matter.
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Eindar
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 20:42 Post subject:
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Deporting everyone is just plain impossible. That would be as catastrophic as the "war on drugs" has been.
I'm personally OK with one of 2 strategies, the conservative version is much simpler to enforce, the liberal version is...feasible, but will require a lot of manpower.
Conservative version: make it a crime to employ an illegal alien. Every incident of identity theft noted by the IRS will be investigated by IIS or NSA. Those caught employing illegals using a fake SSID will be given a hefty fine. Those caught knowingly employing illegals will be charged with a misdemeanor, and possibly have their funds seized to pay back taxes for their illegal employees. This would also require employers to be able to obtain the most recent phone # associated with the SSID in order to verify the SSID matches the person. Alternately, SSID cards could become photo IDs, and the requirements to obtain one made the same as obtaining a drivers liscense, meaning several pieces of ID, including birth certificate.
Liberal version would be to do tabula rasa, once illegals have proven they can live here peacefully and productively. I can't imagine the red tape involved in that, which would make most illegals just continue what they're doing.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 21:12 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | | kbarr wrote: | I have no idea how this will turn out. I just know this, it will end up better than it is now. Now there is NO regulation. At least regulate, and put a fuckn fence up. I don't care if they let em in to dig holes, I already use them to do that. WE KNOW they are here already. Shit, if they make em semi legal I might rent apartments to them:) I know they will keep the place clean! They are hard workn people, thats a fuckn fact. Its the scumbags that I want stopped. A fence will at least help with that.
And lose the law that makes offspring of illegals citizens JUST because they are born here. If thats all they did I would be happy.
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If what you say is true, why did you have a problem when I said let the ones who have been here for years, have a job and no criminal record apply for citizenship? |
I have no control over what is going to happen. If it was up to me, I would jail all the illegals, and mix them in with the prison population. Then have them build a 15 lane highway that goes from the Pacific to the gulf of mexico, and another one that goes from the pacific to the gulf of Maine up on the canadian side.
I would have them build this highway, and I would call it a highway so no one gets upset, in a VERTICAL position.
Every 100 miles we could put a steel door in it.
It shouldn't take but a few years.
When its all done, we push the illegals through the steel doors and tell them to fill out immigration paperwork like everyone else, and thanks for the help you did an excellent job.
Anyone who tries to climb over this highway into the US, we shoot.
Case fuckn closed.
Its THAT fuckn simple.
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 21:15 Post subject:
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Uh, maybe I am wrong but isn’t it already illegal to employ an illegal? Aren’t companies already fined? I know the company I use to work for got fined when two of there loader get busted by INS.
Besides he said if they made the semi legal. If you really believe there will be able to just say get the f**k out now, then I feel sorry for you.
You want to put up a fence with guns and shoot any new illegals that come in fine, I could care less but what about those here?
You can hate them all you want but we need to be realistic you cannot and will not deport all of them it will never happen.
What Alerik said was correct we need these workers for jobs Americans will not do, so we need to think of a realistic way to deal with the ones we already have.
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RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 21:21 Post subject:
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There are a few problems with Illegals even being here.
1)We are paying them to be here
2)There are security issues with them being here. They are undocumented. Meaning, They could be murderers for all we know. And here in America we have people that welcome it. Overlooking the background history of these people. Thats why when Reebo says..."blah blah, if theyve been here a number of years we should let them be a citizen" Thats really stupid.
3)Politicians in a way would like them to be here- To get vote backing for their party.
4) For those of you that say. These illegals do jobs that your normal American wouldnt do. Yes thats true. Is it right though? (Refer to #2)
At the rate the U.S is going, Michael Jackson wouldnt have to worry about fleeing to other countries. He could just hang out here and kick it with the illegals that the U.S is already harboring.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 21:32 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: | Uh, maybe I am wrong but isn’t it already illegal to employ an illegal? Aren’t companies already fined? I know the company I use to work for got fined when two of there loader get busted by INS.
Besides he said if they made the semi legal. If you really believe there will be able to just say get the f**k out now, then I feel sorry for you.
You want to put up a fence with guns and shoot any new illegals that come in fine, I could care less but what about those here?
You can hate them all you want but we need to be realistic you cannot and will not deport all of them it will never happen.
What Alerik said was correct we need these workers for jobs Americans cannot do, so we need to think of a realistic way to deal with the ones we already have. |
You are missing what I am saying. I have no control. If I was IN CHARGE, things would be WAY different.
Before I dealt with the mexicans I would drop about 400 neutron bombs on selected targets. Then I would deal with the small stuff.
It would planet America in less than 5 months, and I would give NO warning. Thats not saying the useless billions alive now would still be alive. Just that the ones that did survive would be American, weather they liked it or not. If they don't like it, we can always kill them later.
First I would plan it out. Then in one single instant a supergiantmegaload of shit would hit the global fan, just before they melted everyone would be like WTF? Then we/me would be in charge, forever.
Just like CIVILIZATION 1
YEAHBOOOYYEEE!!!!!
I would be the muthafuckn KING! Milla would be at my side, making any and all stupid little movies she wanted to.
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 21:51 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | 2)There are security issues with them being here. They are undocumented. Meaning, They could be murderers for all we know. And here in America we have people that welcome it. Overlooking the background history of these people. Thats why when Reebo says..."blah blah, if theyve been here a number of years we should let them be a citizen" Thats really stupid. |
Ok let’s focus on my blah blah blah.
Let’s get something out of the way first, I am only talking about illegals here now not any future illegals.
You talk security but you think a round up will get these people out? Tell me which you think is more likely in reality not what you wish but what is most realistic.
A) All undocumented workers get arrested and deported no questions asked.
B) All undocumented worked are registered, background checked and if passed specific criteria (Working, Non-criminal) are required to learn basic English and tested to have a chance to if not become a full citizen at least work, pay taxes and live here.
It is easy to post of a message board f**k immigrants kick them all out, it is a whole other story to do it.
You kick out some bumb who leechs off of us its one thing the public will cheer you. You kick out Pedro who works 14 hour days and lives quietly in his one room apartment and public feeling changes and this goes for right or left.
Then how do you tell companies who support your campaign that you are taking all their 2.25 an hour workers away and replacing them with people who demand minimum wage or above?
What do you do when there is a shortage of people who cook, and clearn and work in the fields and warehouses, but those jobs are not being filled by Americans because they don’t want them?
This issue is way to big and imbedded within the fabric of America to simply be answered by saying, they are illegal kick them all out.
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RealPoor Sensei
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 22:41 Post subject:
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| Reebo wrote: |
Let’s get something out of the way first, I am only talking about illegals here now not any future illegals.
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Oh okay, well ... they are both the same to me. The ones that are here now shouldnt be here. And the ones that are going to be here shouldnt be here either.
Thanks for clarifying which ones youre referring to though.
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It is easy to post of a message board f**k immigrants kick them all out, it is a whole other story to do it.
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f**k immigrants? Insert the word illegal - Completeing the phrase----> illegal immigrants.
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You kick out some bumb who leechs off of us its one thing the public will cheer you. You kick out Pedro who works 14 hour days and lives quietly in his one room apartment and public feeling changes and this goes for right or left.
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Yeah but good ol Pedro is here illegally - even if he's working for money(our money) and earning his keep(our keep), to exist on American soil.
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Then how do you tell companies who support your campaign that you are taking all their 2.25 an hour workers away and replacing them with people who demand minimum wage or above?
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You tell them,"well thats tough". You tell them,"Hire U.S citizens(legal U.S Citizens)" You tell them, "Pay them what they are worth" In end... you are creating jobs for Americans that need them. Even if it is minimum wage. Companies may not like it but you know what... like I said, "tough"
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What do you do when there is a shortage of people who cook, and clearn and work in the fields and warehouses, but those jobs are not being filled by Americans because they don’t want them?
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You pay people what they are worth. You create jobs on the table. Not under it.I envision you saying something like
"oh but you wouldnt want to go work in a field picking berries" My answer to that is
Show me the money.
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Reebo
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Posted: 03/27/06 - 22:55 Post subject:
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But see that’s the problem, if what you said really would be done I would be 100% for it.
But again we need to be realistic, there are so many businesses that would close or move out of country if they didn’t have these workers that they are going to make sure their officials know not to fully back a plan to kick them all out.
Remember the minimum wage post we had a while back where people said that if they had raised the minimum wage to seven bucks an hour it would cripple so many businesses?
Do you really think the business will be able to afford minimum wage or better for all those jobs? Hell even if they did somehow how many people are rushing to clean toilets for 5.15 an hour?
I am sure even the most liberal person would back a plan like what you said if it would lead to more American jobs being given to legal American workers paid a fair wage but we all know that is not what would happen.
This country was built on slave labor, we can’t have slaves anymore so we have the next best thing illegals and I don’t see a civil war coming to free them.
If anything make them legal to work and document them but they are not full citizens at least that way we have them on the books they are tracked and paying taxes and we still can keep them to do the low end jobs.
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motherface
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What in the f**k is this shit?
| Quote: | WASHINGTON, March 27 — With Republicans deeply divided, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted on Monday to legalize the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants and ultimately to grant them citizenship, provided that they hold jobs, pass criminal background checks, learn English and pay fines and back taxes.
The panel also voted to create a vast temporary worker program that would allow roughly 400,000 foreigners to come to the United States to work each year and would put them on a path to citizenship as well.
The legislation, which the committee sent to the full Senate on a 12-to-6 vote, represents the most sweeping effort by Congress in decades to grant legal status to illegal immigrants. If passed, it would create the largest guest worker program since the bracero program brought 4.6 million Mexican agricultural workers into the country between 1942 and 1960.
Any legislation that passes the Senate will have to be reconciled with the tough border security bill passed in December by the Republican-controlled House, which defied President Bush's call for a temporary worker plan.
The Senate panel's plan, which also includes provisions to strengthen border security, was quickly hailed by Democrats, a handful of Republicans and business leaders, as well as by the immigrant advocacy organizations and church groups that have sent tens of thousands of supporters of immigrant rights into the streets of a number of cities to push for such legislation in recent days.
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Yes, this is what we need to do... send all the jobs that require brains to India while letting illegal immigrants become legal so they can take all the jobs that don't require brains. No Americans will have jobs and the country will just become North Mexico.
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Isriam
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 02:29 Post subject:
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no matter how many immigrants we get, mexico will always be a 3rd world country. africa will always be a 3rd world continent.
why are whites the only race that actually suceeds at anything?
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motherface
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 09:05 Post subject:
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| Isriam wrote: | | why are whites the only race that actually suceeds at anything? |
lolz
The 2nd probably produce more of the goods consumed by Americans than any white people.
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Isriam
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 11:14 Post subject:
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i'd say chinese/asians are more white than any other race out there.
Whenever a race trys to act white, they actually succeed at what it is they want to do. Look at the blacks in america who get into politics or business.
Just think about it. Iran, Pakistan, Mexico, Honduras, Etheopia, Uganda, India.....detroit?
Compare them to europe and america. hell even canada is 20x better than mexico.
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Gethy
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 13:18 Post subject:
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Reebo and Isriam, saying dumb shit so we don't have to.
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FockTop
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 13:46 Post subject:
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Just cover the boarder line with some radioactive shit.
Will be easy after to locate those that entered in an illegal way...just look for those that lay down crying : help me!!! my skin argggggg!
oh nos time to call the cleaning team!
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Ishmael
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Posted: 03/28/06 - 14:53 Post subject:
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| Gethy wrote: | | Reebo and Isriam, saying dumb shit so we don't have to. |
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