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lawofthejungle
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 Posted: 01/01/08 - 23:41 Post subject:
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What direction do you believe hip hop has taken in the past couple of years? Many people complain about how the South and the West killed hip-hop. To me Nas is the greatest lyricsologist ever, or at least in the top 5. Nas stated in the source magazine,
"When I say hip-hop is dead I was trying to grab their attention to the epecial art form that's so important to us in our future, It had nothing to do with what a guy's doing in the South or in the West. There is a place for all that. When you play Soulja Boy in the club, that's my shit. But because I'm a New Yorker, I'm affected with what is happening in New York. That's just me as a fan. It makes you wake up and say...wheres the love for this s***?"
Now you hear many people stating that Lil Wayne is the "greatest rapper alive". I believe that Lil Wayne has some nasty punchlines, but I wouldn't call him the greatest rapper alive. As Nas says there is a time and place for his type of music, and its called the club, but what really gets to me is that the type of music created by Soulja Boy and Lil Wayne and 50 cent is what people see all hip-hop as! There are many rappers who choose not to get killed by the radio that stay true to the "old school" rhymes. These are the people who normally believe in the acronym of rap being R.A.P (Retards Attempting Poetry). But look at The Roots, Cypress hill, Dj Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Saigon, Chino XL, Scarface, Lupe Fiasco (and by measure...his partner Kanye West to an extent), and The Pharcydes! I could go on... Some of these guys really have a flow and rap about things not bounded by the stereotypes of hip-hop. To tell you the truth nothing is wrong with rap nowadays, it just gets played out over the media, it's just new styles...that's all it is.
Anybody with a REAL view of hip-hop...tell me what you think about some of these people...or of the direction rap is being taken.
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Odus
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Location: Scotland
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Posted: 01/02/08 - 07:02 Post subject: Hip-Hop fans reply!
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I believe it has gone downwards since the late 80's - early 90's. It is now a vain attempt of "look at me, i was in the ghetto but now im rich and im a pimpin mofo". Theres no depth to "hip hop", or should i say rap. Its a load of pretty boys getting a record deal and giving them a bad boy image to play out to what the fans want. They claim they want to stop gangland wars yet on their artwork in their albums they are wielding guns and all their songs are "smoke dat mofo".
It aint hip hop, its rap.
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crzymazy
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Posted: 01/05/08 - 21:28 Post subject:
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heh
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Lord Voldemort
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Posted: 01/14/08 - 16:11 Post subject:
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Lupe Fiasco is the best. No doubt. I love when he says:
'Catch me I'm ballin!
Catch me I'm ballin!
Catch me like Spalding
Catch me like Raulings'
Only Lupe Fiasco and Chris Brown is on my Ipod 
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cleansheet
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Posted: 01/14/08 - 23:50 Post subject:
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Yea after pac and biggie died it was a wrap for hip hop.
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partyfoul
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Posted: 05/08/08 - 18:56 Post subject:
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depends seems like there are 2 types club rap and thug rap
t pain and etc are club
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nerith
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Posted: 05/19/08 - 08:06 Post subject:
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trash trash
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nerith
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Posted: 05/19/08 - 08:06 Post subject:
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lol
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olshalf
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Posted: 05/19/08 - 18:37 Post subject:
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i like paris hilton tbh
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Nex420
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Posted: 05/21/08 - 23:26 Post subject:
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Underground hip hop will always live. The stuff they show on TV just has gone downwards because they figured out fake ass gangster bs sells better.
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karsando
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Posted: 05/23/08 - 17:41 Post subject:
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LMAO
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whitw
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Posted: 05/28/08 - 16:47 Post subject:
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Yes there is definitely a clear distinction between rap and hip-hop... as KRS-one said, rap is something you do -- hip-hop is something you live.
There are still dozens of great lyrical MCs working today, but you rarely hear them on the radio or at a club unless it's a retro sample being recycled. Check out Linguistics, Aesop Rock, Jurassic 5, Common, Sage Francis, Blackalicious, Jedi Mind Tricks... just to name a few.
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rjr547
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Posted: 05/29/08 - 14:28 Post subject:
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The problem I have with a lot of the "newer" MCs is that I think they just sound like shit. I read the lyrics to their songs and I'm like damn, this song is gonna be great...then I actually listen to it and I feel like throwing my headphones into the bottom of a lake. It takes great skill to pull off both good lyrics and making the songs sounds decent.
I agree with whoever said that there are basically two kinds of rap, especially right now, the club rap and the "real" rap. Club rap is clearly on the rise big time right now and has completely taken over, even to the extent that some of the "real" rap artists have converted, because that's where the money is at.
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Fall_of_Rawr
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Posted: 06/01/08 - 10:54 Post subject:
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It's taking a negative direction with it's music becoming even more ridiculous and idiotic.
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hc_dub
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Posted: 07/23/08 - 02:35 Post subject:
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rap&hip-hop are trash in my opinion..its all gone ghetto in the past 10-15 years....but thats my opinion so don't flame me.
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legend109
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Posted: 07/24/08 - 23:00 Post subject:
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I dont think its all that dead you just have to know where to look and most dont bother to go past radio tunes
Lupe is bomb but some other great less know artist with great lyrics and beats -> cannibal ox( The Cold vein album pure art  ), Zion-I, jedi mind tricks, immortal technique, talib kweli, the grouch, the roots, mos def, nas atmosphere, brother ali - to name a few
look up some of those on youtube even peeps who dont generally like rap/hip hop still enjoy listening to the cold vein album - mechanical/futurist beats are crazy 
enjoy
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ignite
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Posted: 10/06/08 - 03:10 Post subject:
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yea im with legend. Underground hiphop > todays mainstream crap. Little wayne, soulja boy and all that stuff gives me a headache.
Zion-I, Ill Bill, Immortal Technique, Atmosphere, The Grouch, The roots, Mos Def, Cunninlynguists, Hieroglyphics.. so many others.
Support the real deal
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HelloImNice
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Posted: 10/13/08 - 21:20 Post subject:
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Old school all the way baby 
99% of todays newer rap is garbage 
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skin3d
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Posted: 10/15/08 - 07:24 Post subject:
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| HelloImNice wrote: | Old school all the way baby :D
99% of todays newer rap is garbage :( |
like now all these artist make sounds instead of rapin
take 4 example mrs. officer.....
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unhappysquee
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Posted: 10/18/08 - 13:44 Post subject:
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Ghostface Killah, thats where it's at.. I'm not much of a rap person tho, i like ti's new album though.
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Sebastiann!
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Posted: 10/24/08 - 12:42 Post subject:
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dtuch hip hop ftw
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Mikko6798
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Posted: 11/30/08 - 19:06 Post subject:
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its called 20th century Hip hop
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