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gimpy
Luke Warm
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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 Posted: 10/08/03 - 07:30 Post subject: Help me understand this "backflagging agreement"..
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so like most guilds now have this agreement that; if you have killed the mob before, if another guild is killing it you can send some of your slackers to hang with them for the backflag.
SA/CoS/TA/ED/Pak have one I believe...
BC? well they continue to f**k themselves by treating everyone else like shit, so not sure if anyone is dumb enough to have an agreement with them or not.
Someone list who has what agreements with who. And for clarification... why does ANYONE have an agreement with ED? they never kill flag mobs anymore, so basically every guild is just kissing their ass by backflagging there alts for them.
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Zuboomafoo
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 07:35 Post subject:
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who gives a shit buddy.
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Derringer
Luke Warm
Joined: 25 Oct 2002
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 07:50 Post subject: Re: Help me understand this "backflagging agreement&quo
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| gimpy wrote: | so like most guilds now have this agreement that; if you have killed the mob before, if another guild is killing it you can send some of your slackers to hang with them for the backflag.
SA/CoS/TA/ED/Pak have one I believe...
BC? well they continue to f**k themselves by treating everyone else like shit, so not sure if anyone is dumb enough to have an agreement with them or not.
Someone list who has what agreements with who. And for clarification... why does ANYONE have an agreement with ED? they never kill flag mobs anymore, so basically every guild is just kissing their ass by backflagging there alts for them. |
You'd have to ask each individual guild who they have agreements with. We do not have agreements with all of the guilds mentioned above, just some.
And, us having an agreement with ED is akin to a guild behind us having an agreement with us. You have said agreement because if you don't, that guild above you will backflag on mobs that you want to be available more often, hence taking them from you. You also do it as a show of good faith.
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Fanelien
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Joined: 18 Jul 2003
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 07:52 Post subject:
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f*g.
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Qienn
Luke Warm
Joined: 13 Oct 2002
Posts: 182
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 08:08 Post subject:
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Numi has an agreement with Pak/ED/TA, might be another guild but I am not sure. It's wrong to say ED doesn't kill backflag mobs as we have gotten lots of backflagging from them.
Not sure if you have dealt with flagging issues trying to get your recruits into elementals for raiding, but its a huge pain in the neck for everyone. The high-end guilds realize this, and have setup a system that is a win-win for everyone.
It may seem like you are shooting yourself in the foot helping someone you are competing with, but interactions between numi/pak/ED/TA are way better than the trash incounters of the guilds below em. Yes we occasionally race, but once a guild comes in force or pulls the other wishes em well and bails (ofcourse different things are said in /gu I am sure  ). I have never seen any of the crap in elementals from these guilds that has/is been seen in ssra.
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Minion
RealPoor Guru
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 08:20 Post subject: Re: Help me understand this "backflagging agreement&quo
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| Quote: | | why does ANYONE have an agreement with ED? |
| Quote: | | basically every guild is just kissing their ass by backflagging there alts for them. |
Looks like you answered your own question to me!
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quotison
RealPoor Sensei
Joined: 13 Oct 2002
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 09:20 Post subject:
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SA has agreements with Pak, TA, ED and CoS. I don't remember ever getting any flags from ED, occasionally some with TA, a decent amount from Pak, although mostly from RZTW and MM, and a very good amount from CoS lately.
Likewise, most of people we flag are CoS members, with a smaller amount of Pak and TA members, and a very small amount of ED members. If we didn't have a flag agreement with ED I doubt it would hurt them or hurt us.
Most of us are okay with the fact that most flag agreements are not equal. Just like we get more flags from CoS then we give out, the guilds ahead of us get more flags from us then we get from them. Its all right, mostly because of the fact that getting some backflags are better then getting none.
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Kurz
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Posted: 10/08/03 - 16:29 Post subject:
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i see y ur named Gimpy now.....umm BC does and have helped people with backflagging...Another clear case of cranial - rectal inversion..
im not the one to ask which, i have seen several different guilds at out backflagging mobs ..
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Secret Seranni
Luke Warm
Joined: 01 May 2003
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Location: Scotland
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Posted: 10/09/03 - 04:32 Post subject:
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Pak has some flag agreements.. ED, TA, Numi, SA ... and i think BC and TS have also flagged some members.
We have no agreement with CoS! (shock!)
It works out pretty well.. if you dont lwant a flagging aggreement, then dont try and make one, coz noone really cares!
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Juwel
Luke Warm
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: 10/09/03 - 04:37 Post subject:
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It's been nice to see how things go in cycles too. When we first entered into agreements with other guilds we were constantly flagging their people and they weren't doing any backflagging. Now it has worked the other way where they are flagging quite a few of our people. Overall flagging agreements help everyone because backflagging is the suck.
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Ghaol
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Joined: 23 Feb 2003
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Posted: 10/12/03 - 00:54 Post subject:
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BC has helped me backflag, they are a good group of peeps.
And I am pretty sure all backflagging agreements are made once the guild that wants said backflag has taken the mob down themselves.
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Qaldyin
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Posted: 10/12/03 - 02:37 Post subject:
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That, and also there is no point in being a******s to each other and not backflagging if you are not going to use the extra flags. Yes, sometimes we are forced to compete, but less drama is better for everyone.
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Motley
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Posted: 10/12/03 - 21:37 Post subject:
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From BC --
We'll backflag ED, TA, Numi, and Pak.
TA has an informal arrangement to backflag us if/when they do mobs.
Numi we have a formal agreement with.
Pak offered a formal agreement, but was never really pursued.
ED we've never actually asked for an arrangement because they so rarely do mobs we're interested in.
Informal talks have been made with CoS and SA, but nothing solid as of yet.
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