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sinaxis
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 Posted: 01/15/05 - 21:45 Post subject: Help:Thinking about attempting to build first system
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If anyone is willing to take the time need some advice please.I have like 1500 dollars to play with and not sure if I can buy a better pre built system or If i would get more for my money building it myself.The only real site I know of is newegg so if anyone can direct me to other sites or some info where I could get the best deal for my money on a pre built system would be much appreciated.
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merdocc
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khrath
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 22:01 Post subject:
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send the cash to my paypal account, i'll build you one and bring it over later....promise
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 22:29 Post subject:
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Go to smaller sites, you can get a pre-built one for more or less the same money. And get a warranty. Leave computer building to people who know they can do it, not think they can do it.
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khrath
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 22:31 Post subject:
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computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's
push peg into hole....repeat until pc is put together
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 22:45 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's
push peg into hole....repeat until pc is put together |
Ya, but if you "think" you can that means you can't.
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sinaxis
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 23:39 Post subject:
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Thx for the links merdocc and im pretty confident if i decide to go with the build its not gonna be a problem.Im just trying to figure out which way I would get the most for my money.
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Asassin
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 23:50 Post subject:
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any machine you buy prebuilt you can build for about 50% of the cost of it. anyone who has the ability to build or someone to build it for them is doing nothing but throwing money away if they buy pre-built.
biggest reason for that is you aren't paying 50% of the cost for the s****y software that comes preinstalled. $1000 prebuilt = $500-600 in hardware and $400-500 in software.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 23:54 Post subject:
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| Asassin wrote: | any machine you buy prebuilt you can build for about 50% of the cost of it. anyone who has the ability to build or someone to build it for them is doing nothing but throwing money away if they buy pre-built.
biggest reason for that is you aren't paying 50% of the cost for the s****y software that comes preinstalled. $1000 prebuilt = $500-600 in hardware and $400-500 in software. |
This isn't true anymore. In fact you can save money on pre-built systems now, especially bare-bones. When people like you say you can save 50% that's only true if you got a SPECIFIC piece of hardware you want for each piece and then need to pay "upgrade" costs. If your goal is maximum pc for your dollar, find a smaller company offering great deals, buy a bare bone, then hunt for the optional things you want.
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Zuldane
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 23:55 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's
push peg into hole....repeat until pc is put together |
someone should build a computer case out of legos
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Paden
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 01:58 Post subject:
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| Mugaaz wrote: | | Asassin wrote: | any machine you buy prebuilt you can build for about 50% of the cost of it. anyone who has the ability to build or someone to build it for them is doing nothing but throwing money away if they buy pre-built.
biggest reason for that is you aren't paying 50% of the cost for the s****y software that comes preinstalled. $1000 prebuilt = $500-600 in hardware and $400-500 in software. |
This isn't true anymore. In fact you can save money on pre-built systems now, especially bare-bones. When people like you say you can save 50% that's only true if you got a SPECIFIC piece of hardware you want for each piece and then need to pay "upgrade" costs. If your goal is maximum pc for your dollar, find a smaller company offering great deals, buy a bare bone, then hunt for the optional things you want. |
Most pre-built systems have s****y parts like mobos with s****y chipset.
Plus building a system is easy as f**k. Unless your a idiot that buys shit that's not compatible.
Like buying pc100 ram for a mobo that needs pc2100 and so on.
My friend got a DELL PC for xmas and it uses RD RAM he spent so much money to go from 256 to 1gig because his ram costs a shit load on most sites. He ended up buying some from a guy on Ebay.
Like khrath "computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's"
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Callaren
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 05:47 Post subject:
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| khrath wrote: | | send the cash to my paypal account, i'll build you one and bring it over later....promise |
Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Mugaaz
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 09:14 Post subject:
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| Paden wrote: | | Mugaaz wrote: | | Asassin wrote: | any machine you buy prebuilt you can build for about 50% of the cost of it. anyone who has the ability to build or someone to build it for them is doing nothing but throwing money away if they buy pre-built.
biggest reason for that is you aren't paying 50% of the cost for the s****y software that comes preinstalled. $1000 prebuilt = $500-600 in hardware and $400-500 in software. |
This isn't true anymore. In fact you can save money on pre-built systems now, especially bare-bones. When people like you say you can save 50% that's only true if you got a SPECIFIC piece of hardware you want for each piece and then need to pay "upgrade" costs. If your goal is maximum pc for your dollar, find a smaller company offering great deals, buy a bare bone, then hunt for the optional things you want. |
Most pre-built systems have s****y parts like mobos with s****y chipset.
Plus building a system is easy as f**k. Unless your a idiot that buys shit that's not compatible.
Like buying pc100 ram for a mobo that needs pc2100 and so on.
My friend got a DELL PC for xmas and it uses RD RAM he spent so much money to go from 256 to 1gig because his ram costs a shit load on most sites. He ended up buying some from a guy on Ebay.
Like khrath "computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's" |
How many people asking this question even know what a chipset is.
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Kilzalot
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 09:52 Post subject:
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f**k Dell. I built my first PC a couple months back and now I'll never buy another pre-built one.
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Orbit
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 11:06 Post subject:
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| Mugaaz wrote: | | Asassin wrote: | any machine you buy prebuilt you can build for about 50% of the cost of it. anyone who has the ability to build or someone to build it for them is doing nothing but throwing money away if they buy pre-built.
biggest reason for that is you aren't paying 50% of the cost for the s****y software that comes preinstalled. $1000 prebuilt = $500-600 in hardware and $400-500 in software. |
This isn't true anymore. In fact you can save money on pre-built systems now, especially bare-bones. When people like you say you can save 50% that's only true if you got a SPECIFIC piece of hardware you want for each piece and then need to pay "upgrade" costs. If your goal is maximum pc for your dollar, find a smaller company offering great deals, buy a bare bone, then hunt for the optional things you want. |
This is true! I normally build my own.(been doing this for over 10 years) But this year I bought a dell after pricing everything I wanted I ended up about the same as a high end dell like 300 dollars less. But on the bright side I have a warrenty that last 3 years and they will come and fix anything that goes wrong with even it if it nights or on the weekend. Only thing I had to give up that I wanted was SLI but hell do you really want to spend over 1k for 2 video cards... =P But dell running a great deal now 20percent off 
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Mogling
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 11:53 Post subject:
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plus what reasionably prices mobos can you get with 2x pci-e slots?
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Cyklops
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 14:50 Post subject:
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http://www.cyberpowerpc.com
I ordered a comp from these guys around a year ago. Very well priced and I haven't had a single problem with it at all. I'd at least check them out.
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merdocc
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 21:06 Post subject:
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f**k Dell. I built my first PC a couple months back and now I'll never buy another pre-built one. |
I just use them for work related needs where I just get them plug em in and they work for 6 years without any problems. I built all of my home stuff.
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Ursar
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Posted: 01/16/05 - 21:13 Post subject:
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| Zuldane wrote: | | khrath wrote: | computer building is about as hard as playing with lego's
push peg into hole....repeat until pc is put together |
someone should build a computer case out of legos |
http://members.cox.net/richw/lego.htm
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Mynd
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 10:54 Post subject:
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http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
I used to build my own. I checked my prices and found that it only cost me 50 dollars more to let these guys do it for me. I have ordered three computers from them and they have all been great machines. It is really nice to get a new computer, plug it in and it work right out of the box. They test them and run them through a burn process before they ship it to you.
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Thenger
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 13:52 Post subject:
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Honestly building a PC is really easy now a days. The hardest part is putting the wires to connect the case to the motherboard, my fingers are to damn big!!!
In all honestly it takes so little time now a days to make a machine that it's a crime to give money away to other people. I do price checks online then we have a computer fair every weekend that travels in CT, Mass and RI. They normaly beat the price of NewEgg and other sites by a few dollars.
Just built myself a nice machine like a month ago, it's a killer, and I built it for like 600 dollars, and honestly everything inside the machine is a name brand and not some generic peice of shit. This is the third machine I built for myself, and I have built others for other people over the years as well.
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