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| No, America has everything so why should I? |
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median
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 2183
Location: Hamillton, Canada
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:40 Post subject: Have you left the continent?
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Hi,
I heard somewhere that Americans have the least ammount of passports per capita over any other country.
Seeing as this is a mostly American board, im curious to how many americans have actually left their country to go aboard. And Canada and Mexico dont count!
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Zwadrich
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Joined: 12 Oct 2002 Posts: 5015
Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:43 Post subject:
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i voted yes but read the question after =/
Ive left my country plenty of times. I think the only continent i havent been in America (Do North/South pole count?). Been to (South) Africa 2 times, and Australia 1 time.. and all over Europe. Been to Indonesia 1 time and blah blah blah.
I havent been on holliday in 2 years now =/ /rude money
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Paco
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 12939
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:44 Post subject:
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Different culture. You're from a culture where you need to have one in order to move about the very limited countries in Europe, for example. It is a biased question you are asking.
Europeans travel around where they live, just like Americans do, except in europe, you need a passport. You could say the same of driver's licenses, which allows folks to travel about the US in a much larger area to cover.
What's your point?
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Confused
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 6730
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:45 Post subject:
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Wow! Mr. European vacation is worldy all of a sudden! lol
I voted yes, but the latter part of the third option is also true.
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Jakanden
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Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 5334
Location: Fuck if I know - I am always lost
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:46 Post subject:
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Yes - I went to Hong Kong for a bit. Was a f*****g blast
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Bait Masterson
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3842
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:46 Post subject:
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he just wants to say
woo woo look at me I used my mommy and daddy's money to go to europe where I can be pussified.
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Guest
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:52 Post subject:
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I have been to many countries while in the military. Only canada since I left the military. But, I do have a passport and plan on going to europe again, its a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Celestra, you ready for me?
This is what I'll be wearing when I get off the plane, its my newest suit.
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median
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 2183
Location: Hamillton, Canada
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:53 Post subject:
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| Bait Masterson wrote: | he just wants to say
woo woo look at me I used my mommy and daddy's money to go to europe where I can be pussified. | \
I spent the money I earned on my trip. I also didn't come back a p***y. You can f**k off now.
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median
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 2183
Location: Hamillton, Canada
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:55 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | I have been to many countries while in the military. Only canada since I left the military. But, I do have a passport and plan on going to europe again, its a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Celestra, you ready for me?
This is what I'll be wearing when I get off the plane, its my newest suit.
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If you get a chance, check out Prague before the currency switched to Euro, its f*****g great city, and is cheap as hell.
especially, the
is dirt cheap.
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Haphasto
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 1800
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 20:57 Post subject:
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been out once. Went out to Nice, France (pronounced neice)
we went around to a few of the small towns around there also.
Was a little old fashioned, but whole lota fun.
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Tamrissa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Posts: 7100
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 21:10 Post subject:
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i left canada once, i went to michigan. didnt like it very much
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Frostkiss
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Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 2018
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 21:19 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | Different culture. You're from a culture where you need to have one in order to move about the very limited countries in Europe, for example.
Europeans travel around where they live, just like Americans do, except in europe, you need a passport. What's your point? | You don't need a passport to travel in Europe, as a European. It has been this way for years now.
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Nuldaan
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Joined: 07 Nov 2002 Posts: 1179
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 21:34 Post subject: Re: Have you left the continent?
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| median wrote: | | Canada and Mexico dont count! |
You'd think this would go without question since they're on the same continent as the U.S.
Anyway, yes, I've been to Europe. I guess since I've been to Hawaii quite a few times and Tahiti once I've been off the continent quite a few times but I don't really count those.
I'm curious what countries were in the study you read. I don't have any numbers to back it up but I would guess that quite a few African, South American, and probably Asian countries have less passports than the U.S.
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Faerdal
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 954
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 21:47 Post subject:
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In the two trips I've made across the pond with the Navy, I've stopped in port in Greece, Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Norway, Scotland, Eengland, and I've also spent some time on Sicily and some of the other islands off of Italy, with the island of Capri (minus the touristy marina area) being by far my favorite place in the world to date. I want to learn Italian and retire there... not necessarily in that order, heh. It's just beautiful. The first time I went overseas was for a month long training cruise one summer while I was in college. The second time was last fall, when we went over for 7 weeks for a NATO exercise. This winter we're going to the Mediterranean for our full 6 month deployment. There's a good chance we'll hit a ton of ports, mmmyeah. I plan to take my next tour on an AEGIS Destroyer out of San Diego... partially for the ship, mostly for the chance to see the west coast, and the Pacific rim ports on that deployment. After that, I'll have seen much of the world worth seeing, and then it's only a matter of taking a vacation every now and then to the places that the Navy can't take you.
If you serve 2 good tours in the Navy, you'll see a lot; make it a career and stay for 20 years, and you'll literally see the world. I like to think I'm a better person for it. Sort of gives a new perspective on things, and it's always good for a laugh when you get into an argument about something silly like American vs Foreign cars, and you can see the poor, ignorant saps who've never left the US clinging onto their GM biases, swearing up and down that everything American is as perfect as it comes, and basically bleeding red, white, and blue. Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are.
Plus, the sky on a clear night out in the middle of the Atlantic, 2000 miles from land, is just breathtaking. That's not a different country per se, but it's interesting enough to merit mentioning.
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Docter
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Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 3420
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 21:53 Post subject:
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Lived in Germany for three years, while Dad was stationed at Kaiserlautern (sp?). We lived on the "economy", in a small German town called Bann...no, not Bonn.
<img src=http://www.bann2000.de/x-bann-r.jpg width=640 height=265>
We virtually went on the road every weekend, seeing new castles and other sights. Been to England, France, Belgium, Holland, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, etc...
edit: size -comp
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 22:02 Post subject:
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| Faerdal wrote: | I like to think I'm a better person for it. Sort of gives a new perspective on things, and it's always good for a laugh when you get into an argument about something silly like American vs Foreign cars, and you can see the poor, ignorant saps who've never left the US clinging onto their GM biases, swearing up and down that everything American is as perfect as it comes, and basically bleeding red, white, and blue. Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are.
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STFU please...
Kid, you aren't the smartest person in the room and you don't know more than everyone else.
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Paden
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 9362
Location: North CAROLINA!
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 22:14 Post subject:
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Nope
I hardly evet been out of North Carolina.
I been to VA, SC and Atlanta Georgia.
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Smothered_Hope
Luke Warm

Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 110
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 22:17 Post subject:
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| Faerdal wrote: | I like to think I'm a better person for it. Sort of gives a new perspective on things, and it's always good for a laugh when you get into an argument about something silly like American vs Foreign cars, and you can see the poor, ignorant saps who've never left the US clinging onto their GM biases, swearing up and down that everything American is as perfect as it comes, and basically bleeding red, white, and blue. Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are.
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I agree.
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Akronn
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 23:13 Post subject:
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Wow, those American vs. foreign car debates have really chapped Faerdal's ass lol.
Don't feel guilty, you can always support your country with your next automobile purchase, sailor.
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khrath
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 23:18 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Faerdal wrote: | I like to think I'm a better person for it. Sort of gives a new perspective on things, and it's always good for a laugh when you get into an argument about something silly like American vs Foreign cars, and you can see the poor, ignorant saps who've never left the US clinging onto their GM biases, swearing up and down that everything American is as perfect as it comes, and basically bleeding red, white, and blue. Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are.
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STFU please...
Kid, you aren't the smartest person in the room and you don't know more than everyone else.
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Tolanin
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Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 3551
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Posted: 06/22/04 - 23:32 Post subject:
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I have been to france, belgium, sweden, finland, norway, england, scotland, ireland, spain, italy, greece, croatia, turkey, russia, denmark, estonia... I think I would like to go back to Turkey and Russia the most... but Ill be back in France/Italy/Greece in a few weeks.
some things you have to realize about this poll is that 1. in the US we dont need passports for anything but leaving the country, I dont know if thats the case in other places. 2. Relatively speaking the US does offer most of what you can easily see right within its borders.. I mean if you live in Europe its not that expensive to travel to a non EU nation ( and the no passports free travel thing is relatively new) so you have many more people traveling to see the sites because its cheaper to go to them, here in the US its incredibly expensive to leave and go anywhere of note, Mexico is nice but it has a really bad rap and honestly the only plus it has are the aztec ruins and crap... canada.. i mean seen one tree seen um all eh? So for many americans on a budget the choice is then narrowed down to what you can do here in the USA, where in Europe for the same amount of money you can easily go from france to say Egypt... so in my view its less a matter of differing cultures and more a matter of differing geographical location and circumstance.
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Alerik
Sir Postalot

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Posted: 06/23/04 - 02:04 Post subject:
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I've been to Europe and South America.
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 02:11 Post subject:
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I've never been out of the continent but i have been to mexico numerous times.
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Banzai
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 02:29 Post subject:
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This guy owns this thread:
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Xenden
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Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1532
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 03:12 Post subject:
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Been out of North America 4 times, everytime to Italy. Half my family lives there. Also, (I don't care if this is unneccessary) I have been to the U.S. and Mexico.
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killswitch
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 03:23 Post subject:
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Lived in Costa Rica then moved to Colombia for a little bit before coming back to the States when I was younger. Been meaning to go to Japan for years but can never seem to do it (used to be 'cause I didn't have the money, now it's 'cause I don't have the time).
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Confused
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 04:44 Post subject:
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| Faerdal wrote: | | Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are. |
I've seen the rest of the world. I even have optional citizenship in another country. I can say with great experience that no nation approaches this great land on any level.
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compusmack
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 06:25 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | | Kbarr wrote: | | Faerdal wrote: | I like to think I'm a better person for it. Sort of gives a new perspective on things, and it's always good for a laugh when you get into an argument about something silly like American vs Foreign cars, and you can see the poor, ignorant saps who've never left the US clinging onto their GM biases, swearing up and down that everything American is as perfect as it comes, and basically bleeding red, white, and blue. Well boys, until you've seen the rest of the world you don't really know what you're missing out on.. or how wrong you are.
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STFU please...
Kid, you aren't the smartest person in the room and you don't know more than everyone else.
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Zapper
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 1512
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 08:02 Post subject: Re: Have you left the continent?
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| median wrote: |
I heard somewhere that Americans have the least ammount of passports per capita over any other country.
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Hmmm thats up there with I read it on the internet somewhere
Is this like your first time to Europe or something and you think no one else has done this before?
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Kely
Luke Warm

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 249
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Posted: 06/23/04 - 08:44 Post subject:
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Canada, Mexico, Domincan Republic, Haiti, Curcao, St Thomas, Panama, Costa Rica, Honduras, Bermuda, Costa Maya, Nicaragua, England, Iceland, Spain, France, Palma, Tunisia, Italy, Greece, Germany, Ukraine, Romania, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia... probably missing a few.
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