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PostPosted: 02/23/04 - 10:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02/23/04 - 10:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 18:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

this Guild Rankings are too funny, do you folks really base your ranking on guild progression or popularity contest??

Current Guild rankings are as follows:

1) ED
2) TA
3) Pak
4) Numi
5) SA
6) CoS
7) BC
Cool TS - only cause they killed RZTW
9) SotN
10) Omen
11) MoKB

Why do I rank SotN's above Omen and MoKB? Ya, MoKB was the first to kill MM but they skipped VT altogether. SotN's have been farming VT alot earlier then Omen and have alot more Aten kills. SoTN formed about 8 months ago and look at their progress so far, they are the ED/TA of European Guilds. Plus they killed Mith Marr with ease and now in Sol Ro, not even Omen can say that they killed MM by themselves cause they had to get TA members for help and to show them how. Very Lame!! So, SoTN sucks and they have a s****y guild leader? Obviously hes doing something right, you reckon? If you want to start a popuarity contest, maybe SotN's would be at the bottom, but actions speak louder than words and they are progressing alot better than Omen, MoKB, TS, and BC ever did for only being an 8 month old guild. VT does mean shit when it comes to guild rankings. Just my 2 cents, if you dont like what I have to say, then feel free to flame away. I think its a joke to put Omen before SotN, haha.

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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 18:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, SoTN sucks and they have a s****y guild leader? Obviously hes doing something right, you reckon?


Yeah he lives in Europe... uncontested content is the win
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 18:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) ED
2) TA
3) Pak
4) Numi
5) SA
6) CoS
7) BC
Cool TS - only cause they killed RZTW
9) MoKB
10) SoTN
11) IV
12) CB
13) Omen

Put us on bottom, then the only place we have to go is up!
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 19:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

jughead is a moron lol, put the drama on the other thread.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 19:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jughead aint no moron, Jughead is cool! Jughead like Isriam even if Isriam dont like Jughead.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 19:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOKB will be the next elemental guild. If you want to talk about progression look at how in 1 month they went from 10 members to almost 70 on every raid and 1 mob from elems.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 19:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, good point Isriam. I base my rankings on 3 things; Rate of progression, uber flagged nameds, and being well equipped. SotN's have produced in all 3 areas and are very well rounded, team efforted and organized. Major kudos to them and how they have handled pressure for all the critizim and being a somewhat new guild. Surely SotN's would of been in elementals by now if they would of skipped VT altogether, but they would of been underequipped and would of probably died out if they would of taken that path, who knows. Besides Pak, I dont see many guilds progressing well through elementals without going through VT first.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numinous didn't go to VT.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 20:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numinous was the first in Elemental planes without VT or any real Ssra farming to speak of (on TM), and were justification to our own decisions to push for Elementals without dorking around in old content.

However, I don't see anyone skipping Elemental/PoTime content for GoD content anytime soon Razz. Jesus f**k, the Ikkanz trials are brutal.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 20:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isriam wrote:
MOKB will be the next elemental guild. If you want to talk about progression look at how in 1 month they went from 10 members to almost 70 on every raid and 1 mob from elems.


wanna make a friendly 10k bet?
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 21:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

MoKB is close to defeating RZ.. is anyone else even at the same point?
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogman wrote:
Isriam wrote:
MOKB will be the next elemental guild. If you want to talk about progression look at how in 1 month they went from 10 members to almost 70 on every raid and 1 mob from elems.


wanna make a friendly 10k bet?


SotN wiped to Manaetic behemoth for months, and hasn't even beat fake VZ. MOKB has gotten to fake RZ (and wiped, many times)

Remove lips from Aimras anus, reinsert brain into cranial cavity.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 21:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogman wrote:
Isriam wrote:
MOKB will be the next elemental guild. If you want to talk about progression look at how in 1 month they went from 10 members to almost 70 on every raid and 1 mob from elems.


wanna make a friendly 10k bet?


Up it to 100k and I'll solve any problems MoKB may be having with fake rz, real rz, or any of the adds Very Happy.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 22:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jughead wrote:
Aye, good point Isriam. I base my rankings on 3 things; Rate of progression, uber flagged nameds, and being well equipped. SotN's have produced in all 3 areas and are very well rounded, team efforted and organized. Major kudos to them and how they have handled pressure for all the critizim and being a somewhat new guild. Surely SotN's would of been in elementals by now if they would of skipped VT altogether, but they would of been underequipped and would of probably died out if they would of taken that path, who knows. Besides Pak, I dont see many guilds progressing well through elementals without going through VT first.


You forgot Numi, which means a full half of the PoTime guilds do not have VT access. Its been proven you can progress perfectly well without doing content from four expansions ago.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 23:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

and we have more aten kills idiot.
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PostPosted: 02/24/04 - 23:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

quotison wrote:
Jughead wrote:
Aye, good point Isriam. I base my rankings on 3 things; Rate of progression, uber flagged nameds, and being well equipped. SotN's have produced in all 3 areas and are very well rounded, team efforted and organized. Major kudos to them and how they have handled pressure for all the critizim and being a somewhat new guild. Surely SotN's would of been in elementals by now if they would of skipped VT altogether, but they would of been underequipped and would of probably died out if they would of taken that path, who knows. Besides Pak, I dont see many guilds progressing well through elementals without going through VT first.


You forgot Numi, which means a full half of the PoTime guilds do not have VT access. Its been proven you can progress perfectly well without doing content from four expansions ago.


Well numi has recruited half of SA so technically some of them did VT right? Wink

Kidding aside, even fully decked out VT guilds or even just elemental guilds will probably not find an easy path at all in GoD, this is post PoTime content, not really 'just more high level content' like PoP.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 01:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take Jug's list, stick SoTN below MoKB and Omen, and i'd say its pretty accurate.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 01:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is like three pages of stuff that is in the wrong thread Sad
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 02:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the other thread is going to die! Smile
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 05:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're getting an early start and if my roomate doesn't stop fekking with my keyboard I'm gonna go off... That's all for now Smile
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 08:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 09:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jughead wrote:
SoTN formed about 8 months ago and look at their progress so far, they are the ED/TA of European Guilds.


I JUST SNORTED MY MILK out my NOSE Exclamation

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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 12:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only people who think SoTN > Omen are people in SoTN. And the only people who think Aimras is a "great leader" are people in his guild. Any fucko could make a guild of all 65s and take them from Velious to Aten in under 6 months if they don't have to fight for mobs 95% of the time. If SoTN had to compete for mobs like the rest of the guilds on the server, I doubt they would have even killed emp by now.

"Come on guys let's do this, real guilds will be logging on in like 7 hours."
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wouldn't even be in that guild period, because they would join one of the decent guild on US time.
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raiding US time when you are european isnt THAT bad. Come home from work, take a nap in the evening, wake up at midnight to raid.. back to bed at 4 am for another few hours sleep before work!
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 14:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret Seranni wrote:
Raiding US time when you are european isnt THAT bad. Come home from work, take a nap in the evening, wake up at midnight to raid.. back to bed at 4 am for another few hours sleep before work!


And this is why you're a hardcore chick!
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 15:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL,

Motherface wrote: "The only people who think SoTN > Omen are people in SoTN."

WRONG, im not in SoTN and I know SoTN's are better than Omen.

Motherface wrote: "And the only people who think Aimras is a "great leader" are people in his guild."

WRONG AGAIN, he stepped down, and no longer Guild Leader of SoTN's. Im sure there are a few others outside of guild who think Aimras has made a good guild leader besides everyone in SoTN's

Motherface wrote: Any fucko could make a guild of all 65s and take them from Velious to Aten in under 6 months if they don't have to fight for mobs 95% of the time. If SoTN had to compete for mobs like the rest of the guilds on the server, I doubt they would have even killed emp by now.

Very nicely said! That answers why everyone hates SoTN's/Aimras??, they dont have to compete with any other guilds besides maybe Brit Lore's. Omen gets the leftovers of what SoTN's doesn't kill that day, hint Vex Thal. Since there is no Asian time guilds, they pretty much kill whatever is up. So why rank them lower, cause they dont have to compete with 8 other guilds for mobs? I think its a great strategy on their part, or maybe just coincidence, you all reckon?
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PostPosted: 02/25/04 - 15:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret Seranni wrote:
Raiding US time when you are european isnt THAT bad. Come home from work, take a nap in the evening, wake up at midnight to raid.. back to bed at 4 am for another few hours sleep before work!



wtf is this shit?


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