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Confused
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| Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The budget became unbalanced when bush was taking office because the recession began the month he was sworn in. Tax revenues significantly dropped off at that point...d*****s. |
actually the economy slowed even before that gimpstick, -as- it always does prior to an admin change...hello..history class?
p.s. wtf nadar for pres...omg, hahhaha p*****g in a table fan is more productive, and time better spent... |
Bush took office in Q1 2001. The economy was growing at an annual rate of nearly 5% just 6 months before that and was in the black for the previous 6 months, but at a lower rate. So quarterly business tax income actually began to drop off Q3 2000...3 months before bush took office. The annual tax revenue drop hit as Bush was taking office. The subsequent months of climbing unemployment resulted in a hit the following year, just as the economy was seeing signs of recovery.
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er....wow
never seen anyone post anything that stupid.
er....you just restated what -I- said...that the economy had already slowed before bush had taken office...
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Look at the graph, d*****t. The recession (negative growth) began THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN! Get it...d*****t. The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, but that doesn't effect government revenue for months because taxes aren't paid instantaneously. So the government had just felt a ding with quarterly business tax revenue 3 months before he was sworn in and felt a slightly more severe ding with annual taxes THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN. However, tax revenue drops off substantially when corporate profits are in the red...THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN. Get it yet...d*****t? I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The budget became unbalanced when bush was taking office because the recession began the month he was sworn in. Tax revenues significantly dropped off at that point...d*****s. |
actually the economy slowed even before that gimpstick, -as- it always does prior to an admin change...hello..history class?
p.s. wtf nadar for pres...omg, hahhaha p*****g in a table fan is more productive, and time better spent... |
Bush took office in Q1 2001. The economy was growing at an annual rate of nearly 5% just 6 months before that and was in the black for the previous 6 months, but at a lower rate. So quarterly business tax income actually began to drop off Q3 2000...3 months before bush took office. The annual tax revenue drop hit as Bush was taking office. The subsequent months of climbing unemployment resulted in a hit the following year, just as the economy was seeing signs of recovery.
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er....wow
never seen anyone post anything that stupid.
er....you just restated what -I- said...that the economy had already slowed before bush had taken office...
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Look at the graph, d*****t. The recession (negative growth) began THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN! Get it...d*****t. The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, but that doesn't effect government revenue for months because taxes aren't paid instantaneously. So the government had just felt a ding with quarterly business tax revenue 3 months before he was sworn in and felt a slightly more severe ding with annual taxes THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN. However, tax revenue drops off substantially when corporate profits are in the red...THE MONTH HE WAS f*****g SWORN IN. Get it yet...d*****t? I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
an understanding of economics is not something a liberal can have, otherwise they wouldnt be liberal.
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Paco
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 13:50 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Paco wrote: | and you are...who again?
and we care...why again?
sorry n00b, but you need to earn your respect around here
so start kissing ass and sucking d**k and earn the right to be flamed with better
and please don't bother to try and pull the b******t "i've been here forever, I just don't post". if that was true, you can continue to STFU |
omg, you think being a realpoor troll makes you something? wtf?
go fetch your shovel b***h |
please don't try to kiss my ass, it's too late for you, cawkgobblah
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 13:52 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Paco wrote: | and you are...who again?
and we care...why again?
sorry n00b, but you need to earn your respect around here
so start kissing ass and sucking d**k and earn the right to be flamed with better
and please don't bother to try and pull the b******t "i've been here forever, I just don't post". if that was true, you can continue to STFU |
omg, you think being a realpoor troll makes you something? wtf?
go fetch your shovel b***h |
please don't try to kiss my ass, it's too late for you, cawkgobblah |
I care.
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Xion
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 14:45 Post subject:
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| Jack Crow wrote: | Greenspans proposal was made in DIRECT RELATION to the Bush Administrations deficit.
Cause : Bush 512 billion dollar deficit
Effect: Greenspans reccomendation to cut SS benefits.
And yes youll still pay the same Social Security out of your paychecks, youll just get less when your hairs gray and youre walking slower.]
hahah Side note: Greenspan said it probalby wouldnt happen right now anyway because "its an election year"
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Jack, you're one of the most ignorant f***s I've run across on this board.
I guess you missed the part where Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent.
Deficit spending helps the economy. The important thing is that you pay it off when the economy picks back up...that's what Greenspan is trying to ensure the government does.
Take an econ class you uneducated f**k.
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:22 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r
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Confused
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:25 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r |
Hey ignorant s**t. Read what I f*****g said. The first and every subsequent time I said that government revenue dropped as he took office. Government revenue is delayed behind the economy. You are mindbogglingly stupid.
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:25 Post subject:
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| Tolanin wrote: | | an understanding of economics is not something a liberal can have, otherwise they wouldnt be liberal. |
hey crunchy c**t
you are 10 times more liberal than my most gasy fart
you left wing commi pansy
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:27 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r |
Hey ignorant s**t. Read what I f*****g said. The first and every subsequent time I said that government revenue dropped as he took office. Government revenue is delayed behind the economy. You are mindbogglingly stupid. |
hampster f****r
you just dont get it
the ball started rolling backwards -before- bush took office
wtf, look at your graphs
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:29 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r |
Hey ignorant s**t. Read what I f*****g said. The first and every subsequent time I said that government revenue dropped as he took office. Government revenue is delayed behind the economy. You are mindbogglingly stupid. |
hampster f****r
you just dont get it
the ball started rolling backwards -before- bush took office
wtf, look at your graphs |
And you still can't get it. Absolutely amazing. I said "government revenue" which trails economic performance. See the graph?? See where the economy rapidly slowed 6 months before Bush took office? Now stick with me here, because a 3rd grader would be able to grasp this. Government revenue dropped as Bush was taking office. Do you get it yet? Do I need more graphs?
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:31 Post subject:
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| Xion wrote: | | Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent. |
course he did, hes a repub
xion sucks eduin's camel knuckles
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:42 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r |
Hey ignorant s**t. Read what I f*****g said. The first and every subsequent time I said that government revenue dropped as he took office. Government revenue is delayed behind the economy. You are mindbogglingly stupid. |
hampster f****r
you just dont get it
the ball started rolling backwards -before- bush took office
wtf, look at your graphs |
And you still can't get it. Absolutely amazing. I said "government revenue" which trails economic performance. See the graph?? See where the economy rapidly slowed 6 months before Bush took office? Now stick with me here, because a 3rd grader would be able to grasp this. Government revenue dropped as Bush was taking office. Do you get it yet? Do I need more graphs? |
no hampster f****r you said 'recession' dont try to change the f*****g sing mid dance
recession
n 1: the state of the economy declines; a widespread decline in the GDP and employment and trade lasting from six months to a year 2: a small concavity [syn: recess, niche, corner] 3: the act of ceding back [syn: ceding back] 4: a act of becoming more distant [syn: receding]
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Confused
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:49 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | Wily wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | The economy drastically began to drop off 6 months before he was sworn in, .... I also noticed you didn't include my graph in you quote. |
hey ross perot, no f*****g shit
hello read what i said punk ass kid
get a clue hampster f****r |
Hey ignorant s**t. Read what I f*****g said. The first and every subsequent time I said that government revenue dropped as he took office. Government revenue is delayed behind the economy. You are mindbogglingly stupid. |
hampster f****r
you just dont get it
the ball started rolling backwards -before- bush took office
wtf, look at your graphs |
And you still can't get it. Absolutely amazing. I said "government revenue" which trails economic performance. See the graph?? See where the economy rapidly slowed 6 months before Bush took office? Now stick with me here, because a 3rd grader would be able to grasp this. Government revenue dropped as Bush was taking office. Do you get it yet? Do I need more graphs? |
no hampster f****r you said 'recession' dont try to change the f*****g sing mid dance
recession
n 1: the state of the economy declines; a widespread decline in the GDP and employment and trade lasting from six months to a year 2: a small concavity [syn: recess, niche, corner] 3: the act of ceding back [syn: ceding back] 4: a act of becoming more distant [syn: receding] |
Oh...my....ok. Pay attention, here to your definition. If you look at the graph, the economy is not declining until....THE MONTH BUSH TOOK OFFICE. A negative second derivative of economic growth, experienced in the 6 months before he took office, is not a "decline in the GDP." It is a lesser decline in the GDP. The "decline in the GDP took began in Q1 2001." Tax revenue began to decline that same period, because businesses started reporting unprofitability in Q4 2000 (I remember this because I completely pulled out of the market).
A "decline in the GDP" occurs when those little bars in the bar graph go negative. Q1 2001. When Bush took office. Caphiche? This is all very very basic.
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Confused
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:50 Post subject:
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* "It is a lesser decline in the GDP" should read "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP"
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:54 Post subject:
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just like you fan p*****s
cant admit your wrong or how futile it is to vote 3rd party
DECLINE..not NEGATIVE FIGURES
decline started prior. we both agree
thank you for agreeing with me
bush thanks you for you rsupport
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lotek
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:55 Post subject:
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greenspan >>> practically everyone.
I highly recomend listening to the smart f****r.
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sinrakin
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:55 Post subject:
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| Phoenix wrote: | | * "It is a lesser decline in the GDP" should read "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP" |
Come, come. Based on the way the thread has been going, it should read, "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP, you buttfucking hamster smoking leftist fuckwit c**t of a shitstained boil infested uncle sodomizing pinheaded dicksucking maggot".
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:58 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | * "It is a lesser decline in the GDP" should read "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP" |
Come, come. Based on the way the thread has been going, it should read, "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP, you buttfucking hamster smoking leftist fuckwit c**t of a shitstained boil infested uncle sodomizing pinheaded dicksucking maggot". |
fuckn finally
some damn logic here
die fan p****r
no really, irl
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Confused
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 17:59 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | just like you fan p*****s
cant admit your wrong or how futile it is to vote 3rd party
DECLINE..not NEGATIVE FIGURES
decline started prior. we both agree
thank you for agreeing with me
bush thanks you for you rsupport |
You are such an idiot. That graph is a graph of the rate of growth of GDP. If the bars are above the line, then there's positive growth (i.e. not a recession) . If those bars are below the line, it's negative growth (i.e. a recession). Again...this is very, very basic...VEERRRRYYYYY basic.
Get it? Those bars are the first derivative of GDP, not actual GDP. OK? Come on, now. It's so very simple.
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 18:03 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Phoenix wrote: | | * "It is a lesser decline in the GDP" should read "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP" |
Come, come. Based on the way the thread has been going, it should read, "It is a lesser rate of growth of the GDP, you buttfucking hamster smoking leftist fuckwit c**t of a shitstained boil infested uncle sodomizing pinheaded dicksucking maggot". |
fuckn finally
some damn logic here
die fan p****r
no really, irl
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Here. You're too stupid for me to handle. Read this and get a clue.
http://money.cnn.com/2001/11/26/economy/recession/
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Wily
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 18:08 Post subject:
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fan p****r
you can make a graph of a graph for all i care
the bottom line is
the economy was in DECLINE jack ass
f*****g stand by what you say or sht the f**k up
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 21:38 Post subject:
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I'm just curious if you two (meaning Wily and Phoenix) are saying exactly the same thing...
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Xion
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 22:45 Post subject:
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they are, wily's got phoenix by the balls and phoenix doesn't realize it, it's hillarious.
BTW Wily...you'd make a great liberal journalist with your impressive ability to take quotes out of context.
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 22:48 Post subject:
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You know...I just read my last post. It was supposed to say:
I'm just curious if you two (meaning Wily and Phoenix) realize you are saying exactly the same thing...
I miss the edit button.  [/b]
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 23:04 Post subject:
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| Xion wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | Greenspans proposal was made in DIRECT RELATION to the Bush Administrations deficit.
Cause : Bush 512 billion dollar deficit
Effect: Greenspans reccomendation to cut SS benefits.
And yes youll still pay the same Social Security out of your paychecks, youll just get less when your hairs gray and youre walking slower.]
hahah Side note: Greenspan said it probalby wouldnt happen right now anyway because "its an election year"
wait till Bush gets four more then Booyaaa! |
Jack, you're one of the most ignorant f***s I've run across on this board.
I guess you missed the part where Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent.
Deficit spending helps the economy. The important thing is that you pay it off when the economy picks back up...that's what Greenspan is trying to ensure the government does.
Take an econ class you uneducated f**k. |
Cant make a counterpoint without crying like a little whiny b***h?
Cry little p***y cry cry cry!
You f*****g homoz cant imtimidate me from saying my peace!
Dont like it?
"Waaaah MommY!"
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Nuldaan
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 23:16 Post subject:
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| Jack Crow wrote: | | Xion wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | Greenspans proposal was made in DIRECT RELATION to the Bush Administrations deficit.
Cause : Bush 512 billion dollar deficit
Effect: Greenspans reccomendation to cut SS benefits.
And yes youll still pay the same Social Security out of your paychecks, youll just get less when your hairs gray and youre walking slower.]
hahah Side note: Greenspan said it probalby wouldnt happen right now anyway because "its an election year"
wait till Bush gets four more then Booyaaa! |
Jack, you're one of the most ignorant f***s I've run across on this board.
I guess you missed the part where Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent.
Deficit spending helps the economy. The important thing is that you pay it off when the economy picks back up...that's what Greenspan is trying to ensure the government does.
Take an econ class you uneducated f**k. |
Cant make a counterpoint without crying like a little whiny b***h?
Cry little p***y cry cry cry!
You f*****g homoz cant imtimidate me from saying my peace!
Dont like it?
"Waaaah MommY!" |
I guess you missed the part where he refuted your argument. It seems to be a trend with you. Read what you want and ignore everything else.
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NickPSH
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 23:24 Post subject:
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Why do the socialist parties get all the cool flags?
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Tolanin
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 23:28 Post subject:
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the normal swastika is better, simple but elegant.
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Posted: 02/26/04 - 23:53 Post subject:
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| Nuldaan wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Xion wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | Greenspans proposal was made in DIRECT RELATION to the Bush Administrations deficit.
Cause : Bush 512 billion dollar deficit
Effect: Greenspans reccomendation to cut SS benefits.
And yes youll still pay the same Social Security out of your paychecks, youll just get less when your hairs gray and youre walking slower.]
hahah Side note: Greenspan said it probalby wouldnt happen right now anyway because "its an election year"
wait till Bush gets four more then Booyaaa! |
Jack, you're one of the most ignorant f***s I've run across on this board.
I guess you missed the part where Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent.
Deficit spending helps the economy. The important thing is that you pay it off when the economy picks back up...that's what Greenspan is trying to ensure the government does.
Take an econ class you uneducated f**k. |
Cant make a counterpoint without crying like a little whiny b***h?
Cry little p***y cry cry cry!
You f*****g homoz cant imtimidate me from saying my peace!
Dont like it?
"Waaaah MommY!" |
I guess you missed the part where he refuted your argument. It seems to be a trend with you. Read what you want and ignore everything else. |
Dumb ass.
I said he made a counterpoint.
And just because he refuted what I said doesnt make it factual.
ANything is possible based on conditions and his analysis isnt worth shit when made in such a blanket fashion.
Go take some more of Rush Limbaughs crack, tool.
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Xion
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Posted: 02/27/04 - 00:57 Post subject:
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| Jack Crow wrote: | | Nuldaan wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | | Xion wrote: | | Jack Crow wrote: | Greenspans proposal was made in DIRECT RELATION to the Bush Administrations deficit.
Cause : Bush 512 billion dollar deficit
Effect: Greenspans reccomendation to cut SS benefits.
And yes youll still pay the same Social Security out of your paychecks, youll just get less when your hairs gray and youre walking slower.]
hahah Side note: Greenspan said it probalby wouldnt happen right now anyway because "its an election year"
wait till Bush gets four more then Booyaaa! |
Jack, you're one of the most ignorant f***s I've run across on this board.
I guess you missed the part where Greenspan SUPPORTED making Bush's tax cuts permanent.
Deficit spending helps the economy. The important thing is that you pay it off when the economy picks back up...that's what Greenspan is trying to ensure the government does.
Take an econ class you uneducated f**k. |
Cant make a counterpoint without crying like a little whiny b***h?
Cry little p***y cry cry cry!
You f*****g homoz cant imtimidate me from saying my peace!
Dont like it?
"Waaaah MommY!" |
I guess you missed the part where he refuted your argument. It seems to be a trend with you. Read what you want and ignore everything else. |
Dumb ass.
I said he made a counterpoint.
And just because he refuted what I said doesnt make it factual.
ANything is possible based on conditions and his analysis isnt worth shit when made in such a blanket fashion.
Go take some more of Rush Limbaughs crack, tool.
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I don't see you responding to my "counterpoint", Jack. All I see is you "crying like a whiny b***h".
Props to Nuldaan for putting the ignorant, uneducated fucktard in his place before I could.
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