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Scrabler
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 Posted: 10/22/04 - 20:38 Post subject: Great show on the History Channel
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It's on atm about the Nazi Guerillas after WWII. I just wish we would handle things like we did then; 1 man was shot by a sniper so the US pulled out of the town and shelled it for a full day before going back in. Pretty much any guerilla fighter captured was executed and even many normal troops to dissuade the Werewolves from continuing.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 20:50 Post subject: Re: Great show on the History Channel
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| Scrabler wrote: | | It's on atm about the Nazi Guerillas after WWII. I just wish we would handle things like we did then; 1 man was shot by a sniper so the US pulled out of the town and shelled it for a full day before going back in. Pretty much any guerilla fighter captured was executed and even many normal troops to dissuade the Werewolves from continuing. |
might work, different situations tho so it might backfire too.. =/
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 20:56 Post subject: Re: Great show on the History Channel
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | It's on atm about the Nazi Guerillas after WWII. I just wish we would handle things like we did then; 1 man was shot by a sniper so the US pulled out of the town and shelled it for a full day before going back in. Pretty much any guerilla fighter captured was executed and even many normal troops to dissuade the Werewolves from continuing. |
might work, different situations tho so it might backfire too.. =/ |
Yes it is very different. German's were a civilized society...a large part of Iraq and the middle east is still a tribal society. Though they are different I am 100% behind the idea that if we let our military do what it wants to do there will be far less deaths in the long run and the rebuilding will take less time. Sure the Iraqi civis probably wouldn't like the US kicking ass like it really can but in the long run it would get the job done and they would be happy imo.
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Tolanin
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 21:02 Post subject: Re: Great show on the History Channel
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | It's on atm about the Nazi Guerillas after WWII. I just wish we would handle things like we did then; 1 man was shot by a sniper so the US pulled out of the town and shelled it for a full day before going back in. Pretty much any guerilla fighter captured was executed and even many normal troops to dissuade the Werewolves from continuing. |
might work, different situations tho so it might backfire too.. =/ |
Yes it is very different. German's were a civilized society...a large part of Iraq and the middle east is still a tribal society. Though they are different I am 100% behind the idea that if we let our military do what it wants to do there will be far less deaths in the long run and the rebuilding will take less time. Sure the Iraqi civis probably wouldn't like the US kicking ass like it really can but in the long run it would get the job done and they would be happy imo. |
in one situation you were dealing with pockets of fanatics while most of the pop was defeated and gave up.. in iraq tho thats not the case, we dont have the men to be able to insite the middle east like that, they arent defeated enough mentally so i question whether those tactics would work... also it brings into question why are we even there, if we are gonna kill them all then the entire arguement for being there to free them is kinda moot.
Iraq is not a tribal society fyi.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 21:08 Post subject: Re: Great show on the History Channel
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| Tolanin wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Tolanin wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | It's on atm about the Nazi Guerillas after WWII. I just wish we would handle things like we did then; 1 man was shot by a sniper so the US pulled out of the town and shelled it for a full day before going back in. Pretty much any guerilla fighter captured was executed and even many normal troops to dissuade the Werewolves from continuing. |
might work, different situations tho so it might backfire too.. =/ |
Yes it is very different. German's were a civilized society...a large part of Iraq and the middle east is still a tribal society. Though they are different I am 100% behind the idea that if we let our military do what it wants to do there will be far less deaths in the long run and the rebuilding will take less time. Sure the Iraqi civis probably wouldn't like the US kicking ass like it really can but in the long run it would get the job done and they would be happy imo. |
in one situation you were dealing with pockets of fanatics while most of the pop was defeated and gave up.. in iraq tho thats not the case, we dont have the men to be able to insite the middle east like that, they arent defeated enough mentally so i question whether those tactics would work... also it brings into question why are we even there, if we are gonna kill them all then the entire arguement for being there to free them is kinda moot.
Iraq is not a tribal society fyi. |
You don't think many parts of Iraq are tribal?
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Pankrat
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Posted: 10/23/04 - 11:36 Post subject:
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In Iraq it is relatively small pockets of resistance in contained areas - not the larger population who is against the new government and the coalition. The Iraqi's are backed up by large numbers of foreign terrorists coming in from Iran and Syria. You wouldn't be killing anything close to "all Iraqi's".
I've said it before to put down the so called "insurgency" they have to cordone off the problem areas and basically kill everything in them after giving fair warning for non combatants to get out.
It took the Russians 400,000 additional deaths of its army to pacify Germany after the fall of Berlin. If they hadn't gone house to house and wiped out every last one of the resistance they would have still been fighting an insurgency in the 60's.
There is no difference between a dead Iraqi "insurgent" or foreign terrorist and a dead German.
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