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| Marriage - no Civil Union - yes |
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| Yes - marriage for gays |
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Trebel
Luke Warm
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Shot down in all of the states where it wa son the ballot if I am correct. Makes me very happy  . Marriage is for men and women, a civil union is fine, but the insititution of marriage (originally religious), doesn't need to be distorted by such pervese relationships. So what do u all think?
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Jakanden
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 20:37 Post subject:
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I personally don't see the big deal. I think people should marry whoever the f**k they want
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Abi
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 21:10 Post subject:
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Bet you can't guess what I voted
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sinrakin
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 21:18 Post subject:
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Only for gay Democrats
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Rennol
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 21:22 Post subject:
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| Abi wrote: | | Bet you can't guess what I voted |
I'm an ardent Republican so I voted that you should be castrated and treated as a non person.
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 21:26 Post subject:
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I think it was pretty sneaky, in a lot of these states the ballot measure prohibited gay marriage and civil unions at the same time. Ten bucks, however, says that the civil union of it was played down, the part being played way up was the marriage part and the destruction of traditional marriages, etc. This probably scared a lot of the voters into passing the measure overwhelmingly, without really having the ability to truly pick it apart.
I think civil unions would have more success in passing in many states, if you take "marriage" out of the picture.
Frankly I could care less about trying to emulate some archaic and largely meaningless heterosexual rite of passage. I think that two people who love each other should be able officiate their relationship, but marriage is, for all intents and purpose, centered around procreation and family, two things which two same-**** partners would have a very hard time accomplishing. Instead of trying to change the rules, make up a new game that fits the players.
-Nah-
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Confused
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 21:31 Post subject:
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Civil unions are just state-sponsored cohabitation. Who the f**k wants that?
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Nahualli
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Posted: 11/03/04 - 22:01 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Civil unions are just state-sponsored cohabitation. |
And a marriage is just a glorified pact with nobody in particular that can be broken at any time with absolutely no repercussions. What exactly is your point?
-Nah-
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Mark
Luke Warm
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 03:55 Post subject:
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Its so true
... The strange computer person?? You are kinda strange I guess =P
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 04:37 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Civil unions are just state-sponsored cohabitation. |
And a marriage is just a glorified pact with nobody in particular that can be broken at any time with absolutely no repercussions. What exactly is your point?
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nonono! Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Just ask Britney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith and Dennis Rodman.
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kbarr
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 06:38 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Civil unions are just state-sponsored cohabitation. |
And a marriage is just a glorified pact with nobody in particular that can be broken at any time with absolutely no repercussions. What exactly is your point?
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Marriage benefits society, some could say society resulted from marriage.
You having a steady "hide the sausage" partner because you don't wanna get the plague should have nothing to do with the government.
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Confused
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 11:41 Post subject:
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| Nahualli wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Civil unions are just state-sponsored cohabitation. |
And a marriage is just a glorified pact with nobody in particular that can be broken at any time with absolutely no repercussions. What exactly is your point?
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Adultery used to be a felony. Liberals changed that. So you have no place to complain about the lack of repercussions.
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Frax
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 11:43 Post subject:
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Sodomy is still a felony in several states.
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:06 Post subject:
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Isn't the real reason that gays want marriage is for tax reasons and the bottom line, the benefits of getting more money?
If you are gay and want to get joined together what is the big deal about having a marriage tag on it?
Is it still about this being accepted thing and now lets add some money to your wallet?
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Confused
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:08 Post subject:
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How about gay people stop asking for special privileges?
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Rennol
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:12 Post subject:
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In ancient Greece, love between two men was considered a beautiful thing. In fact, love could not exist except among emotional equals, and since women could never be the emotional equal of men, men were only able to really love each other.
There was also an entire Spartan military formation comprised of male lovers, I would like to see Kbarr be able to spend a few minutes with them 
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Confused
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:13 Post subject:
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| Rennol wrote: | In ancient Greece, love between two men was considered a beautiful thing. In fact, love could not exist except among emotional equals, and since women could never be the emotional equal of men, men were only able to really love each other.
There was also an entire Spartan military formation comprised of male lovers, I would like to see Kbarr be able to spend a few minutes with them |
****.
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khrath
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:15 Post subject:
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How about this.
Two f**s want to get married, and one wants to be the b***h and play little mister homemaker, while the other goes off, gets a job at the cheese sandwich factory, and provides for his fudge packing family.
Why shouldn't that hard working limp wristed man be allowed to claim his personal c*m dumpster on his insurance as a spouse?
It's a traditional arangement, with untraditional people filling the roles, I don't give a shit what they do, this is f*****g america for christ sake, we're supposed to be free.
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Rennol
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:17 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Rennol wrote: | In ancient Greece, love between two men was considered a beautiful thing. In fact, love could not exist except among emotional equals, and since women could never be the emotional equal of men, men were only able to really love each other.
There was also an entire Spartan military formation comprised of male lovers, I would like to see Kbarr be able to spend a few minutes with them |
****. |
Yeah it was pretty **** back then. Ironically, women had the most rights in Sparta in ancient Greece. Egyptian women had it tight too, probably better than women today even, heh.
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Rennol
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:18 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | How about this.
Two f**s want to get married, and one wants to be the b***h and play little mister homemaker, while the other goes off, gets a job at the cheese sandwich factory, and provides for his fudge packing family.
Why shouldn't that hard working limp wristed man be allowed to claim his personal c*m dumpster on his insurance as a spouse?
It's a traditional arangement, with untraditional people filling the roles, I don't give a shit what they do, this is f*****g america for christ sake, we're supposed to be free. |
i agree. yugoslavia must never be free.
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Dyers
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:26 Post subject:
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| Khrath wrote: | How about this.
Two f**s want to get married, and one wants to be the b***h and play little mister homemaker, while the other goes off, gets a job at the cheese sandwich factory, and provides for his fudge packing family.
Why shouldn't that hard working limp wristed man be allowed to claim his personal c*m dumpster on his insurance as a spouse?
It's a traditional arangement, with untraditional people filling the roles, I don't give a shit what they do, this is f*****g america for christ sake, we're supposed to be free. |
I understand what you are saying, cheese. I agree with letting them do wtf they want when it comes to wanting to join together ass to ass only to be seperated by cold water. I am just thinking "Lets be real here and stop the bs about needing to be married when you're gay and get to the bottom line and the reasoning behind it, money."
Since the bottom line is more than likely money, does a civil provide that or does it only cover the title of marriage? If civil does then let them get a civil joining or whatever and have the money mongers accept it. This thing with marriage obviously is hitting a lot of nerves and causes seperation of people. Where is the middle ground? Why do f**s need to have "marriage"?
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khrath
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:34 Post subject:
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It's pointless man, who cares what they call it, it's just two words that mean the exact same thing. Marriage or Civil.
Same thing.
People are all arguing over a f*****g word man....all they are arguing over is the right to call a civil union between 2 men, a marriage.
I'm like....who cares, woohoo!
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:42 Post subject:
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Words have a legal meaning behind them though. 
Can they get money, just like marriage, for a civil union or not?
One of you f**s on this board should be able to answer this for me. I shouldn't have to search the answer myself btw as I am a voter and if this comes up again and you need me to agree with it, I need a good reason. Otherwise I say take a flying leap and quit trying to have a religious title when you are taking it in the ass.
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khrath
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:44 Post subject:
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what if they are religious f**s?
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Vekril
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:49 Post subject:
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I voted yes to gay marriage.
Who f*****g cares if 2 f**s want to get married? It does not affect anyone outside their relationship, will not impact your quality of life. Britney Spears cheapens marriage more than any 2 f**s ever will.
If 2 f**s are truly committed life partners, they should be able to get inheritance rights, hospital visitation privileges and so forth, along with all the negative aspects of marriage
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:51 Post subject:
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Ok, let me add a comment.
I signed another petition to legalise pot, Tuesday. Why? because it would benefit the economy and the whole. Hemp rocks for clothing, paper, etc,...and is cheap to produce. Dupont, among others shut this down anyway.
The war on drugs is bs as if i wanted to do some coke or smoke a bowl I could anyway. Less crime. Lesson learned from prohabition.
Tax revenue is another. There are many other benefits to legalising.
Why is "marriage" so f'n important again? Ahh yes, it's all about money or "accept me and let me corrupt the meaning of your religious marriage title!! waaaaa!!"? hehe
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:52 Post subject:
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Deal is, a lot of people obviously care about marriage otherwise the votes would not have swayed so far against.
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:54 Post subject:
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| Vekril wrote: | I voted yes to gay marriage.
Who f*****g cares if 2 f**s want to get married? It does not affect anyone outside their relationship, will not impact your quality of life. Britney Spears cheapens marriage more than any 2 f**s ever will.
If 2 f**s are truly committed life partners, they should be able to get inheritance rights, hospital visitation privileges and so forth, along with all the negative aspects of marriage |
So what really needs to be done is to have a civil union cover the latter of what you stated there. A change in the law or does a civil union already cover this?
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Dyers
Sir Postalot
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 12:57 Post subject:
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I agree that "they should be able to get inheritance rights, hospital visitation privileges and so forth, along with all the negative aspects of marriage"
Since the title of "marriage" is so damn touchy, does a civil union cover the same?
Well, either way...atm it looks like the homosexuals are f****d and hell, they should like that anyway.
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 11/04/04 - 13:09 Post subject:
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It's an option everyone should be able to make. If the bible freaks don't want to call it marriage, call it civil union. Same rights, same choices, isn't that what freedom is all about?
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