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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 15:23    Post subject: Gaming question Reply with quote

Long time no see my fellow degenerates.

Anyway, I have a new job with long hours and a b***h of a commute that does not leave me much time in the evenings before bed. However I do get 1-2 hours on average after dinner and want something to do when I am not in the mood to watch TV or read a book. So I need advice on a PC game.

I like the D&D style fantasy genre (nothing military style or futuristic) but want something that is fun and playable as a single player for on average 1 to 1.5 hours a session, and occasionally in random groups. Nothing that requires raiding like EQ, or 10000 hours to improve yourself. Just a game I can legitimately have fun with for a couple hours a few nights a week, and maybe more on a weekend. A game I can have fun with even if I NEVER see the end game.

Any suggestions? City of Heroes, WoW? others?
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 15:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stfu and die kthx.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 15:50    Post subject: Re: Gaming question Reply with quote

Vekril wrote:
Long time no see my fellow degenerates.

Anyway, I have a new job with long hours and a b***h of a commute that does not leave me much time in the evenings before bed. However I do get 1-2 hours on average after dinner and want something to do when I am not in the mood to watch TV or read a book. So I need advice on a PC game.

I like the D&D style fantasy genre (nothing military style or futuristic) but want something that is fun and playable as a single player for on average 1 to 1.5 hours a session, and occasionally in random groups. Nothing that requires raiding like EQ, or 10000 hours to improve yourself. Just a game I can legitimately have fun with for a couple hours a few nights a week, and maybe more on a weekend. A game I can have fun with even if I NEVER see the end game.

Any suggestions? City of Heroes, WoW? others?


Well, I would suggest Neverwinter Nights or Dungeon Siege II. DS2 is lots of hack and slash (but with lots of secret areas, too), and NWN is more of a quest-based, traditional D&D game.

I would get the full NWN and play it all the way through (all expansions).
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 15:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest not playing any d*****s games.

Find a woman and play with her instead
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 16:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just broke up with my girlfriend Khrath, would have been 1.5 years this month

no women for a while - I just need to work hard and save money so I can pay down my school debt faster, and dating costs too f*****g much
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 16:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're a jew, find a rich girl to bankroll you =p
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

rich girls want richer guys, or young model studs, and I am neither...

smart and indebted doesn't land the sugar mommas
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 16:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try WoW.. it's fun at least for getting one character up to 60, then you can do it again as the opposite faction and it's different enough where it won't be TOO similar and boring. After that tho if you don't raid, it's over. Six months tops for the life expectancy of WoW unless a new expansion comes out, and soon.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 16:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAVE YOU TRIED EVERQUEST?
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 17:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

City of Heroes was great for what you describe. I'm liking WoW better these days, but it does take some commitment after you get out of the initial levels. CoH was great to just log on, do some stuff, log off whenever you wanted - 15 minutes, an hour, all night or whatever. City of Villains just started beta, not sure what the schedule is for release though.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 18:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and play WoW.

We all know you're the kinda guy who doesn't see anything wrong with power gaming up a toon, so that you can play more casually once you've finished leveling.

May as well play something fun where you can be social also, it'll save you money on other outside forms of entertainment I guess.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 18:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vekril knowing your obsessive personality this is a bad suggestion, but EQ2 is fun and does cater well to people with casual play times. Unlike it's predecessor, there is ample solo - small group content and a bazaillion quests.

I'm in a similar situation as yourself, working and paying down debt and not a shitload of time to waste but I have a good time logging in 1-3 hrs during the week and playing in a small group or working solo on quests or tradeskills. It is addictive tho and I've gotten in some hot water with my GF when I s***w off for an entire sunday or stay up too late etc, so maybe it's like offering wine to an alcoholic but I do reccomend it despite SOE still being a putz of a company in some respects.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 18:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

play AC2


oh wait
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 18:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nahualli wrote:
You can try WoW.. it's fun at least for getting one character up to 60, then you can do it again as the opposite faction and it's different enough where it won't be TOO similar and boring. After that tho if you don't raid, it's over. Six months tops for the life expectancy of WoW unless a new expansion comes out, and soon.

-Nah-

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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 19:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

City of Heroes is about to release their newest expansion...City of Villians, where you get to play the bad guys.

However, if you want something along the lines of AD&D...I suggest playing Never Winter Nights and all the newer mods out for it.

If you want a futuristic RTS...then Dawn of War rocks.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the suggestions - it sounds like WoW. NWN and CoH are possibilities - never again will EQ in any form enter my life!!!!!!!!!

I want to be able to log on, kill some shit either solo or perhaps grouped - and be able to have fun for an hour or so. I like games with a melee and magic/superpowers system, not into military futuristic crap at all.


It is really just a way to kill a couple hours cheaply 2 or 3 nights a week when I am sick of TV or reading as I said - people who have played all 3 which do you think is most fun? To repeat once in a while I may play longer on a weekend, but primarily the purpose is cheap entertainment for shorter periods of time in a game where I can always solo if I choose to.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 19:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay away from WoW trust me.

I know you ..... You will get sucked in, i was going to just play it casual also ... I ended up starting a guild and raiding 4 plus days a week and playing 7 days ..... i was only going to play casual.

I broke away about a month ago, you know bro you can't play a mmorpg part time or half ass, you will want to be the best.

Stick with dungeon seige II or other more single player games, maybe get a new xbox 360 when it comes out the new Elder Scroll game Oblivion and others will be good. Console games you can play in spurts a lot easier then PC.

Sorry to hear about your girl, but stay away from mmorpg's!
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy a used xbox - $100-125

buy an original splinter cell - $6

buy a memory card - $10

download the softmod - free

download games - free

copy them to the HD - free

burn them to dvds - $0.10 if you have a burner.


all the games you could want
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't played WoW but the kid downstairs from me does and sits in front of his window playing it all the time. I see him on that game when I leave for work at 7AM, when I get home from work, when I get in at 1 AM, and any time in between. I think it's safe to say you can put in some serious hours on that game if you are the kind of guy that becomes obsessed with video games.

If you want to play a casual game get a playstation or something, or play pool on Yahoo, that is kinda fun.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 20:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

MMO's are not designed to be played casually, if you're not playing it hardcore then you're not really playing it - you're just wasting time. I will never play another one again (unless Square makes it).
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Guild Wars.
No subscription fees and you can do your missions or whatever alone--the game gives you an NPC team to fill up your group. Play an hour or ten, you'll have things to do and accomplish in any time span.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 20:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zuldane wrote:
MMO's are not designed to be played casually, if you're not playing it hardcore then you're not really playing it - you're just wasting time.


That's retarded. If you're enjoying it, it's not a waste of time.

-Nah-
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 21:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

principessa wrote:
Try Guild Wars.
No subscription fees and you can do your missions or whatever alone--the game gives you an NPC team to fill up your group. Play an hour or ten, you'll have things to do and accomplish in any time span.


Yes, she beat me to it.


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the purpose is cheap entertainment for shorter periods of time in a game where I can always solo if I choose to.


That sentance in itself describes Guild Wars as a whole. Its alot of fun and will keep you interested rather than glued to your seat.

I personally play it beacuse I dont feel like incurring a monthly fee and I work fulltime and go to school part time. The time it takes to play this is extremely flexible and the people who play this game are mostly in the same boat i'm in.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw I played CoH with a few friends for like 3 months playing only a few hours per night after they'd finished work. We were always on teamspeak chatting and stuff, if you could find a few other people who had the same interests as you it could be an even better spending of your hour or so free time as well as restraining you from spending 16 hours in game because you'd end up leveling ahead of your set group and s***w yourself over
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 21:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long time no see bro
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 21:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry to hear about that with you and your lady vekril, sucks when ya have time invested and things just cant work. Sad

ya can always give eq2 a try /awaits the bashings

say what ya will, it offers a wide variety of different things to do for different types of enjoyment. every person enjoys doing different things and eq2 actually offers a choice and variation in their quest types and adventures. plus there are single encounter type 'dugeon' crawls thtat are perfect for the soloer/casual player. lots of zones, a wide variety of things to do then there is the whole tradeskilling thing which is a game within a game.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 22:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, tradeskilling

that is the ultimate in boredom for me in gaming - run around and mindlessly collect components (or buying), then mindlessly push buttons over and over - no strategy, no risk, nothing but buttons


I do not understand how anyone can tolerate tradeskilling, let alone enjoy it... I tried it in EQ many times, got jeweling up way back before Kunark when it was relatively easy (but expensive) and ultimately profitable - any time after that I got so bored after an hour or two I gave up
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 22:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sup, Vek. You like FPS's? I've been playing Enemy territory a lot. It's not the greatest game, but it's free on www.fileplanet.com. Passes time.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 22:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why limit yourself to MMOGs? There are some terrific single-player games that you can probably pick up for $10-20 each.

Dungeon Keeper II is an RTS that can easily keep you captivated through the later levels. Diablo II is always good for killing an hour just hacking-and-slashing. Ricochet II is a break-out style game with some innovative concepts and delicious eye-candy.

If you're willing to consider console gaming your choices get even better. Games like Devil May Cry 3 return more entertainment-hours per dollar than a DVD. Katamari Damacy is a fun puzzle/action game that defies conventional categories. Gran Tourismo 4 is a racing sim with a penchant for huge car-collections and realistic driving conditions/controls.

If you absolutely must choose an MMORPG, I'd go with FFXI. If you don't already have some friends in mind to play with, the gameplay in it is really the most intuitive and fun of any MMORPG since EverQuest. With such limited access to statistics and information, it keeps you from getting bogged down in the usual min/maxing so typical of power-gamers like ourselves. Finally, the job (class) system lets you switch your character's role to a low-level if you feel like simply playing solo as a newbie for awhile.
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PostPosted: 10/07/05 - 22:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vekril wrote:
haha, tradeskilling

that is the ultimate in boredom for me in gaming - run around and mindlessly collect components (or buying), then mindlessly push buttons over and over - no strategy, no risk, nothing but buttons


I do not understand how anyone can tolerate tradeskilling, let alone enjoy it... I tried it in EQ many times, got jeweling up way back before Kunark when it was relatively easy (but expensive) and ultimately profitable - any time after that I got so bored after an hour or two I gave up


Because if the only game you've ever tried tradeskilling in was EQ you haven't seen shit. Granted, essentially it remains the same (gathering, etc) but many games have good tradeskill systems. WoWs isnt terribly complex but it's easy, SWG had the single best tradeskill engine I've ever seen in any MMO.

I know it's not what you're into, I'm just saying EQ is at the bottom of the barrel in terms of tradeskill ease of use, functionality and enjoyment.

-Nah-
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