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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:00    Post subject: GW Reply with quote

is set to be one of the top 3 presidents in our history. He speaks virtues and he sees them through.
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

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620,000. Oh wait, that was the civil war. Lincoln sucked.

No wait, 405,000. No...that was WWII. FDR sucked.

I meant 7,000. No...that was the revolutionary war. Washington sucked.
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:21    Post subject: Re: GW Reply with quote

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is set to be one of the top 3 presidents in our history. He speaks virtues and he sees them through.
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>


To you idiots, the death "toll" is way to high. It is one of your main talking points.


Let me clue you in, you little fool. 1400 dead(give or take) on our side is a tiny number to lose considering what we did.

We took over a f*****g country.

1400 dead.

Thats f*****g art work to me, pure genius.

If we only lost 1400 people for every country(canada would be a zero death takeover) we took over, think how fast the world could fall.....
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>


To you idiots, the death "toll" is way to high. It is one of your main talking points.


Let me clue you in, you little fool. 1400 dead(give or take) on our side is a tiny number to lose considering what we did.

We took over a f*****g country.

1400 dead.

Thats f*****g art work to me, pure genius.

If we only lost 1400 people for every country(canada would be a zero death takeover) we took over, think how fast the world could fall.....


Two countries.
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>


To you idiots, the death "toll" is way to high. It is one of your main talking points.


Let me clue you in, you little fool. 1400 dead(give or take) on our side is a tiny number to lose considering what we did.

We took over a f*****g country.

1400 dead.

Thats f*****g art work to me, pure genius.

If we only lost 1400 people for every country(canada would be a zero death takeover) we took over, think how fast the world could fall.....


Two countries.


You sure this 1400 number is not a tot tallied since start of the iraqi portion of the World Dominance Plan?
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PostPosted: 02/02/05 - 23:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kbarr wrote:
Confused wrote:
Kbarr wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>


To you idiots, the death "toll" is way to high. It is one of your main talking points.


Let me clue you in, you little fool. 1400 dead(give or take) on our side is a tiny number to lose considering what we did.

We took over a f*****g country.

1400 dead.

Thats f*****g art work to me, pure genius.

If we only lost 1400 people for every country(canada would be a zero death takeover) we took over, think how fast the world could fall.....


Two countries.


You sure this 1400 number is not a tot tallied since start of the iraqi portion of the World Dominance Plan?


I dunno. Afghanistan didn't cost much in terms of lives, though.
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 00:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a good speech
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 06:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>


620,000. Oh wait, that was the civil war. Lincoln sucked.

No wait, 405,000. No...that was WWII. FDR sucked.

I meant 7,000. No...that was the revolutionary war. Washington sucked.


lincoln sucked imo =p
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 16:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>

you forgot Iraqi civillian deaths
estimated 12,000 +
Iraqi media says 50,000 but that sounds exaggerated to me.
you should listen to the BBC some time, ... europes gettin p****d we still havnt pulled out.
(America claims they dont have a number on the Iraqi civillian deaths, ... quote "would have to contact Iraqi health officials for that".)
America also claims 90% of these deaths are a result of car bombs
HAH!< . the civillians are the ones telling the insurgents "HEY HEY THERS A TANK AND A COUPLE HUMMERS COMING DOWN THE ROAD >>> GET READY"
if Americans wern't there, .. the only ppl they would car bomb are Iraqi officials.
America just needs to get the f**k out of Baghdad, they have massive metropolis outposts outside of Baghdad now, .... we can train Iraqi police elsewhere, .. this is all so foolish.
if your not outraged, your not paying attention. (to anything besides American media)
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 17:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>

you forgot Iraqi civillian deaths
estimated 12,000 +
Iraqi media says 50,000 but that sounds exaggerated to me.
you should listen to the BBC some time, ... europes gettin p****d we still havnt pulled out.
(America claims they dont have a number on the Iraqi civillian deaths, ... quote "would have to contact Iraqi health officials for that".)
America also claims 90% of these deaths are a result of car bombs
HAH!< . the civillians are the ones telling the insurgents "HEY HEY THERS A TANK AND A COUPLE HUMMERS COMING DOWN THE ROAD >>> GET READY"
if Americans wern't there, .. the only ppl they would car bomb are Iraqi officials.
America just needs to get the f**k out of Baghdad, they have massive metropolis outposts outside of Baghdad now, .... we can train Iraqi police elsewhere, .. this is all so foolish.
if your not outraged, your not paying attention. (to anything besides American media)


Not bad considering there would have been 200,000 deaths under Saddam during the same time frame. Also not bad considering 2 million German civilians were killed during WWII. You're right, though. We should pull out because Europeans are upset!
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 17:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee wrote:
LOLZ!!1 wat's going on in this thred guyz??!
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 17:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused wrote:
Melee wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>

you forgot Iraqi civillian deaths
estimated 12,000 +
Iraqi media says 50,000 but that sounds exaggerated to me.
you should listen to the BBC some time, ... europes gettin p****d we still havnt pulled out.
(America claims they dont have a number on the Iraqi civillian deaths, ... quote "would have to contact Iraqi health officials for that".)
America also claims 90% of these deaths are a result of car bombs
HAH!< . the civillians are the ones telling the insurgents "HEY HEY THERS A TANK AND A COUPLE HUMMERS COMING DOWN THE ROAD >>> GET READY"
if Americans wern't there, .. the only ppl they would car bomb are Iraqi officials.
America just needs to get the f**k out of Baghdad, they have massive metropolis outposts outside of Baghdad now, .... we can train Iraqi police elsewhere, .. this is all so foolish.
if your not outraged, your not paying attention. (to anything besides American media)


Not bad considering there would have been 200,000 deaths under Saddam during the same time frame. Also not bad considering 2 million German civilians were killed during WWII. You're right, though. We should pull out because Europeans are upset!

this is not a 3rd generation war, as much as they want it to be. times have changed.
can you please give me any reasoning at all behind staying in Iraq. what is it accomplishing?, ... what is America's goals?
war on terror?, resources? "spreading peace and prosperity"? what?
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 17:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee wrote:
Confused wrote:
Melee wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>

you forgot Iraqi civillian deaths
estimated 12,000 +
Iraqi media says 50,000 but that sounds exaggerated to me.
you should listen to the BBC some time, ... europes gettin p****d we still havnt pulled out.
(America claims they dont have a number on the Iraqi civillian deaths, ... quote "would have to contact Iraqi health officials for that".)
America also claims 90% of these deaths are a result of car bombs
HAH!< . the civillians are the ones telling the insurgents "HEY HEY THERS A TANK AND A COUPLE HUMMERS COMING DOWN THE ROAD >>> GET READY"
if Americans wern't there, .. the only ppl they would car bomb are Iraqi officials.
America just needs to get the f**k out of Baghdad, they have massive metropolis outposts outside of Baghdad now, .... we can train Iraqi police elsewhere, .. this is all so foolish.
if your not outraged, your not paying attention. (to anything besides American media)


Not bad considering there would have been 200,000 deaths under Saddam during the same time frame. Also not bad considering 2 million German civilians were killed during WWII. You're right, though. We should pull out because Europeans are upset!

this is not a 3rd generation war, as much as they want it to be. times have changed.
can you please give me any reasoning at all behind staying in Iraq. what is it accomplishing?, ... what is America's goals?
war on terror?, resources? "spreading peace and prosperity"? what?

How about stability, nimrod.
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PostPosted: 02/03/05 - 18:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee wrote:
Confused wrote:
Melee wrote:
Yellow Journalist wrote:
<Insert US troop death tolls in this thread>

you forgot Iraqi civillian deaths
estimated 12,000 +
Iraqi media says 50,000 but that sounds exaggerated to me.
you should listen to the BBC some time, ... europes gettin p****d we still havnt pulled out.
(America claims they dont have a number on the Iraqi civillian deaths, ... quote "would have to contact Iraqi health officials for that".)
America also claims 90% of these deaths are a result of car bombs
HAH!< . the civillians are the ones telling the insurgents "HEY HEY THERS A TANK AND A COUPLE HUMMERS COMING DOWN THE ROAD >>> GET READY"
if Americans wern't there, .. the only ppl they would car bomb are Iraqi officials.
America just needs to get the f**k out of Baghdad, they have massive metropolis outposts outside of Baghdad now, .... we can train Iraqi police elsewhere, .. this is all so foolish.
if your not outraged, your not paying attention. (to anything besides American media)


Not bad considering there would have been 200,000 deaths under Saddam during the same time frame. Also not bad considering 2 million German civilians were killed during WWII. You're right, though. We should pull out because Europeans are upset!

this is not a 3rd generation war, as much as they want it to be. times have changed.
can you please give me any reasoning at all behind staying in Iraq. what is it accomplishing?, ... what is America's goals?
war on terror?, resources? "spreading peace and prosperity"? what?



All of the above. I hate people who think if this is about oil its bad. I'm sorry but we are a very oil dependant world. Also, its not like were taking over the country. If we were, we would...well...put our own leadership in Smile
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 01:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

saddam was out of there long ago, he has no way of killing "200,000" iraqi citizens or wahtever you presume would happen if he was in power. i can see Iraq is not yet stable with their govt... so we have a reason to be there. Although i have my reasons we should have never gone to Iraq in the first place, so i would like to see us leave... .. I am specifically talking about Baghdad. America needs to GET THE f**k OUT.
sure we are there for a little of everything 'peace/freedom, war on terror, and oil, whatever... thats fine, and understandable if you give good reason ahead of time, ... but why the lies? isn't GW suppose to be our leader? how can any right thinking individual think its acceptable for the president of one of the most powerfull nations in the world, to lie straight to your face?
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 01:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

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saddam was out of there long ago, he has no way of killing "200,000" iraqi citizens or wahtever you presume would happen if he was in power. i can see Iraq is not yet stable with their govt... so we have a reason to be there. Although i have my reasons we should have never gone to Iraq in the first place, so i would like to see us leave... .. I am specifically talking about Baghdad. America needs to GET THE f**k OUT.
sure we are there for a little of everything 'peace/freedom, war on terror, and oil, whatever... thats fine, and understandable if you give good reason ahead of time, ... but why the lies? isn't GW suppose to be our leader? how can any right thinking individual think its acceptable for the president of one of the most powerfull nations in the world, to lie straight to your face?


If we left him in power he would have killed hundreds of thousands by now if he kept up the same rate.

As for Bush lying..why do I keep hearing that from the liberal pukes? He was given info about Iraq and he had to act on it. He had no way of knowing if it was true or not. Besides that it's not a lie if you believe it..I believe there are WMDs somewhere in Iraq. It's one huge sandbox and he's already burried things in it before.
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 01:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, if we don't occupy Baghdad it will become absolutely overrun with terrorists. As long as we're there the problem gets better, if we were to pull out of that city it would cause problems to say the least.
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 03:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrabler wrote:
Melee wrote:
saddam was out of there long ago, he has no way of killing "200,000" iraqi citizens or wahtever you presume would happen if he was in power. i can see Iraq is not yet stable with their govt... so we have a reason to be there. Although i have my reasons we should have never gone to Iraq in the first place, so i would like to see us leave... .. I am specifically talking about Baghdad. America needs to GET THE f**k OUT.
sure we are there for a little of everything 'peace/freedom, war on terror, and oil, whatever... thats fine, and understandable if you give good reason ahead of time, ... but why the lies? isn't GW suppose to be our leader? how can any right thinking individual think its acceptable for the president of one of the most powerfull nations in the world, to lie straight to your face?


If we left him in power he would have killed hundreds of thousands by now if he kept up the same rate.

As for Bush lying..why do I keep hearing that from the liberal pukes? He was given info about Iraq and he had to act on it. He had no way of knowing if it was true or not. Besides that it's not a lie if you believe it..I believe there are WMDs somewhere in Iraq. It's one huge sandbox and he's already burried things in it before.


I believe there is 10 million dollars buried in my backyard, therefore it's true? Come on you f*****g hick. How can you f*****g be so naive and brainwashed? Official reports from the "weapon hunters" show there isnt a single trace of any WMD, and the likelyhood of there being any = 0. There isnt any, get the f**k over it. You look f*****g stupid. But hey, 75% of Bush supporters still believe Saddam(Iraq) had something to do with 9/11. Time and time again, idiots like yourself really do ruin the image of a "republican".
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 04:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

scrotum wrote:
I believe there is 10 million dollars buried in my backyard, therefore it's true? Come on you f*****g hick.


As usual, you're misquoting and deliberately misinterpretting people. If you believed you had $10 million dollars and you said you had it, you wouldn't be lying. You would be wrong but you wouldn't be a liar. That was what Scrabler said.

As for the real discussion, we have to stay in Baghdad for the same reason we need to keep troops in Fallujah. We aren't there to stabilize bits and pieces of the country, we're there to stabilize the entire thing. Pulling our military out of any major area (such as Baghdad) before the Iraqis are prepared to keep order themselves simply invites the terrorists to destabilize that area. Staying is not the easy choice, but it's the correct one.
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 05:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuldaan wrote:
scrotum wrote:
I believe there is 10 million dollars buried in my backyard, therefore it's true? Come on you f*****g hick.


As usual, you're misquoting and deliberately misinterpretting people. If you believed you had $10 million dollars and you said you had it, you wouldn't be lying. You would be wrong but you wouldn't be a liar. That was what Scrabler said.

As for the real discussion, we have to stay in Baghdad for the same reason we need to keep troops in Fallujah. We aren't there to stabilize bits and pieces of the country, we're there to stabilize the entire thing. Pulling our military out of any major area (such as Baghdad) before the Iraqis are prepared to keep order themselves simply invites the terrorists to destabilize that area. Staying is not the easy choice, but it's the correct one.

as long as there is iraqi peaople left alive on this earth, ... terrorism will never stop in bagdhad..... polls have shown for the past year that more than 85% of Iraqi citizens do not want america occupying iraq, reguardless of what america has done for them......therefore they will help in any and every way to get america out.....helping insurgents to spot/plan carbombs against american carriages .....i will say again this is guerilla warfare... not 3rd generation warfare as we are suited to dominate..... even iff we kill anyone and everyone.... take over the country... move in, and call it the 52nd state. Iraq would be a nation of history against america forever.
democrat?

republican?
wtf is so hard to just think for yourself, and use your own judgement?
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 05:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

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polls have shown for the past year that more than 85% of Iraqi citizens do not want america occupying iraq, reguardless of what america has done for them


Depends on how you ask the question. "Would you like America to take over your country and rule it or would you like to be an independant nation without Saddam?" Of coure people will say they want to be an independant nation, however in order to have a stabilized region with a government that can support itself (not collapse when terrorists see no US soldiers around so assassinate everyone then put in their own ruler) requires the US to be there until it's set up. The US remaining in the area until Iraq can take care of itself isn't anywhere remotely close to being the same thing as occupying it.
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President Bush will always be disliked because he acts on what he beleives and acts before there is a problem.

Europe and the U.S didnt act before WWI or WWII think what would have happened if we acted we could have saved millions of lives.

Now consider that same thing we have learned from History to act before these crazy dictators get out of control. Think if we left Saddam at bay for the past 20 years he would have taken over the middle east and mabye even attacked Eastern Europe and Africa bringing the world to a third world war he had the resources the money the fuel but we have chosen to stop him before any of this happened.

We could play what if all day but with nuclear weapons and terrorists we cant play that game we cant let them do that because terrorists dont care if they die.

The world is going to be safer and the middle east will be free when it is all done with.
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Melee wrote:
as long as there is iraqi peaople left alive on this earth, ... terrorism will never stop in bagdhad..... polls have shown for the past year that more than 85% of Iraqi citizens do not want america occupying iraq, reguardless of what america has done for them......therefore they will help in any and every way to get america out.....helping insurgents to spot/plan carbombs against american carriages .....i will say again this is guerilla warfare... not 3rd generation warfare as we are suited to dominate..... even iff we kill anyone and everyone.... take over the country... move in, and call it the 52nd state. Iraq would be a nation of history against america forever.
democrat?


I'm really glad that everyone doesn't agree with you. In your words, 'terrorism will never stop' so we should just...give up I guess? We should surrender areas of the country because it's just to hard to keep order? Good thinking. Rolling Eyes

I'm curious about the opinion polls you cited since what we see on the news today is in near diametric opposition to what those polls predict, possibly for the reasons Brael outlined. I didn't see the Iraqis embracing terrorists when they showed up in mass numbers to vote. Quite the contrary, I see exactly what George Bush predicted, a nation of people intent upon self-government, whatever the cost. It is necessary that our troops be there to ensure that that government and those people have a real chance at success. Pulling our troops out now is akin to running a marathon and quitting 100 yards before the finish line; it invalidates all of our previous efforts and our soldiers' sacrifices.
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scrotum wrote:
Scrabler wrote:
Melee wrote:
saddam was out of there long ago, he has no way of killing "200,000" iraqi citizens or wahtever you presume would happen if he was in power. i can see Iraq is not yet stable with their govt... so we have a reason to be there. Although i have my reasons we should have never gone to Iraq in the first place, so i would like to see us leave... .. I am specifically talking about Baghdad. America needs to GET THE f**k OUT.
sure we are there for a little of everything 'peace/freedom, war on terror, and oil, whatever... thats fine, and understandable if you give good reason ahead of time, ... but why the lies? isn't GW suppose to be our leader? how can any right thinking individual think its acceptable for the president of one of the most powerfull nations in the world, to lie straight to your face?


If we left him in power he would have killed hundreds of thousands by now if he kept up the same rate.

As for Bush lying..why do I keep hearing that from the liberal pukes? He was given info about Iraq and he had to act on it. He had no way of knowing if it was true or not. Besides that it's not a lie if you believe it..I believe there are WMDs somewhere in Iraq. It's one huge sandbox and he's already burried things in it before.


I believe there is 10 million dollars buried in my backyard, therefore it's true? Come on you f*****g hick. How can you f*****g be so naive and brainwashed? Official reports from the "weapon hunters" show there isnt a single trace of any WMD, and the likelyhood of there being any = 0. There isnt any, get the f**k over it. You look f*****g stupid. But hey, 75% of Bush supporters still believe Saddam(Iraq) had something to do with 9/11. Time and time again, idiots like yourself really do ruin the image of a "republican".


and 95% of all statistics are made up !
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Nuldaan wrote:


I'm curious about the opinion polls you cited since what we see on the news today is in near diametric opposition to what those polls predict,

thankyou for proving my point.



im talking about baghdad people, .... americans being there are the only reason ther is any carnage.
Brael wrote:
The US remaining in the area until Iraq can take care of itself isn't anywhere remotely close to being the same thing as occupying it.
do a google search on soley the word 'occupying' tell me what you find
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 14:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee wrote:
Nuldaan wrote:


I'm curious about the opinion polls you cited since what we see on the news today is in near diametric opposition to what those polls predict,

thankyou for proving my point.



im talking about baghdad people, .... americans being there are the only reason ther is any carnage.
Brael wrote:
The US remaining in the area until Iraq can take care of itself isn't anywhere remotely close to being the same thing as occupying it.
do a google search on soley the word 'occupying' tell me what you find


Since we all know Google is the end all of whats what on planet earth. Moron.
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PostPosted: 02/04/05 - 16:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

scrotum wrote:
Scrabler wrote:
Melee wrote:
saddam was out of there long ago, he has no way of killing "200,000" iraqi citizens or wahtever you presume would happen if he was in power. i can see Iraq is not yet stable with their govt... so we have a reason to be there. Although i have my reasons we should have never gone to Iraq in the first place, so i would like to see us leave... .. I am specifically talking about Baghdad. America needs to GET THE f**k OUT.
sure we are there for a little of everything 'peace/freedom, war on terror, and oil, whatever... thats fine, and understandable if you give good reason ahead of time, ... but why the lies? isn't GW suppose to be our leader? how can any right thinking individual think its acceptable for the president of one of the most powerfull nations in the world, to lie straight to your face?


If we left him in power he would have killed hundreds of thousands by now if he kept up the same rate.

As for Bush lying..why do I keep hearing that from the liberal pukes? He was given info about Iraq and he had to act on it. He had no way of knowing if it was true or not. Besides that it's not a lie if you believe it..I believe there are WMDs somewhere in Iraq. It's one huge sandbox and he's already burried things in it before.


I believe there is 10 million dollars buried in my backyard, therefore it's true? Come on you f*****g hick. How can you f*****g be so naive and brainwashed? Official reports from the "weapon hunters" show there isnt a single trace of any WMD, and the likelyhood of there being any = 0. There isnt any, get the f**k over it. You look f*****g stupid. But hey, 75% of Bush supporters still believe Saddam(Iraq) had something to do with 9/11. Time and time again, idiots like yourself really do ruin the image of a "republican".


um...this 75% of Bush supporters who believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11...where you gettin this? /boggle

As far as "Bush lying"...in Jan of 2003 Bush and all of congress had the same intel. It was then that John Kerry stood in front of congress saying Saddam must be stopped, and that he (Saddam) posed a huge threat to the US because of WMD's. So no one lied. We got bad intel thats it. But it wasnt just Bush...it was the congress, senate, and state dept that got that same intel. Check the senate reports.
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