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Banzai
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 Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:23 Post subject: f*****g Pop-ups
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There is a new bread of pop up that ignores Pop-up stopper, pop up blocker and the google toolbar pop up blocker.
It uses message windows only useable by network admins to spam you, then they try to sell you a package to stop the spamming.
I just got hit with it the other day and it's f*****g annoying as hell and it took over my toolbar even though I removed it. I didn't even want ti installed but I ran another program and it piggy backed on it.
Anyone know how to dig this f****r out?
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Booker
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:29 Post subject:
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Malik
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:34 Post subject:
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I haven't seen these new pop-ups you speak of... But what's just as worse = flash. Almost all major sites are using those annoying popup flash ads now because they know ppl got the popup blockers =/
btw, my google tool bar is up to 3842 blocked! 
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:38 Post subject:
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I wish I could. Work has retarded admin privalages to set up even browser upgrades so I can't even do that.
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compusmack
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:43 Post subject:
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| Malik wrote: | I haven't seen these new pop-ups you speak of... But what's just as worse = flash. Almost all major sites are using those annoying popup flash ads now because they know ppl got the popup blockers =/
btw, my google tool bar is up to 3842 blocked! |
I had flash blocked for quite a while, but i finally caved in again a couple days ago because some sites absolutely have no non-flash content or site map. :/
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izrion
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 13:53 Post subject: popups
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if it's windows messenger service, the only way that I can think of is to go into your services and turn it off. Doubt you can do that without admin access tho. This is the only thing that worked on my home pc's.
This was quite awhile ago, 8 mos or so, I don't remember it taking over my toolbar, but it would toss me out of whatever program/game (EQ) was playing.
Hope that's a little help at least
Iz
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r00typooh
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:16 Post subject: Re: popups
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| izrion wrote: | if it's windows messenger service, the only way that I can think of is to go into your services and turn it off. Doubt you can do that without admin access tho. This is the only thing that worked on my home pc's.
This was quite awhile ago, 8 mos or so, I don't remember it taking over my toolbar, but it would toss me out of whatever program/game (EQ) was playing.
Hope that's a little help at least
Iz |
yes, this is what it sounds like you're getting ...
in xp, right click my computer, go to manage, go to services, go to Messenger, go to properties, and select disable.
that should solve your problem =P
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:17 Post subject:
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Thanks Iz
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Brash
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:20 Post subject:
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my computer >Control panel > Nework Connections > Local Area Connections >Properties > advanced > Click protect My computer > Ok : )
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:25 Post subject:
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| Brash wrote: | | my computer >Control panel > Nework Connections > Local Area Connections >Properties > advanced > Click protect My computer > Ok : ) |
Nice.
thanks for that Brash, got all the way dow to "advanced" and got admin blocked.
Looks like Mozilla here I come!
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izrion
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:26 Post subject:
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Welcome, only hope you can apply the fix without having admin permissions. I've never tried it in a secured network, and depends on how "good" or how much of a d**k your admins are =P
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 14:26 Post subject:
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Check this shit out, it's my lucky day:
http://money.cnn.com/services/tickerheadlines/djh/200311052037DOWJONESDJONLINE001746.htm?cnn=yes
FTC Expected to Crack Down on 'Windows Messenger' Spammer
November 5, 2003: 20:37 p.m. EST
Dow Jones Newswires
WASHINGTON -- The Federal Trade Commission is expected to announce Thursday it will restrict some activities of a company that has been exploiting a feature in Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Windows to send out a unique form of spam.
The FTC is not blaming Microsoft itself for the illegitimate use of a feature in Windows called Windows Messenger Service. Not to be confused with the MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger instant messaging services, Windows Messenger Service appears to users as a pop-up window and is intended to be used by computer network administrators to send messages to users on the network.
The FTC won't disclose the name of the targeted company prior to a press conference scheduled for 11 a.m. EST Thursday. Nor will the FTC discuss its specific action against the company.
But a name that has commonly surfaced in complaints about so-called "messenger spam" is a San Diego-based firm called D Squared Solutions Inc. Complaints in on-line forums say that the company sends the unwanted messages - and then attempts to sell users software that will block the spam.
An attorney for the company did not immediately return calls seeking comment.
The pop-up ads look like a typical Microsoft window, and are labeled " Messenger Service." But the text includes advertising, pornographic messages and other unwanted solicitations, as well as advertisements for $30 software meant to stop the messages, according to complaints received by consumer groups and others.
Unlike typical spam, the messages can appear independent of e-mail in word processing applications and other programs.
"It's happened to a lot of people who have Microsoft Windows XP," says Ari Schwartz of the Center for Democracy and Technology. While high-speed Internet users who are always connected are more likely to get the messages, even users of slow dial-up modems have been hit "if they stay online a long time."
The FTC will also be announcing steps consumers can take to stop the messages. Microsoft itself has posted a fix on its Web site.
In addition, Microsoft will disable Windows Messenger in its update of Windows XP, expected to ship in the first half of 2004, since the feature isn't needed by most home users. Network administrators and others who need the feature will be able to turn it back on again.
The FTC's announcement will come a day after Microsoft announced the creation of a $5 million reward fund for information leading to the capture and conviction of individuals who have launched damaging viruses and worms. While the FTC isn't blaming Microsoft for the messenger spam, one critic of the company is.
Microsoft's Windows monopoly has "such a huge impact," says Ed Black of the Computer and Communications Industry Association, which represents a number of Microsoft's rivals as well as customers. "They are partly responsible for the spam problem because they have made it so easy to go through this hole."'
-By Mark Wigfield, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-828-3397; Mark.Wigfield@ dowjones.com
Corrected November 5, 2003 22:50 EST (03:50 GMT)
Dow Jones Newswires 11-05-03 2037ET Copyright (C) 2003 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Paco
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 15:09 Post subject:
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Poor Banz. You're such a user. 
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r00typooh
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 16:45 Post subject:
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| Brash wrote: | | my computer >Control panel > Nework Connections > Local Area Connections >Properties > advanced > Click protect My computer > Ok : ) |
that does a lot more than jsut block messenger ads though =/
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 16:55 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | Poor Banz. You're such a user. |
End user... never thought I'd be this far down the chain =/
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KapnKimchi
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 17:30 Post subject:
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1. Go to Start, then Run and type in services.msc Click Ok
2. Scroll to Messenger, select it, right click it and choose Properties.
3. Under startup choose "Disabled", then choose Stop.
4. When stopped, click Ok.
Voila, no more popups.
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Banzai
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 17:38 Post subject:
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| KapnKimchi wrote: | 1. Go to Start, then Run and type in services.msc Click Ok
2. Scroll to Messenger, select it, right click it and choose Properties.
3. Under startup choose "Disabled", then choose Stop.
4. When stopped, click Ok.
Voila, no more popups. |
Got to Stop then "Access Denied".
But your skillz are impressive.
The force is strong with this one.
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Tamrissa
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Paco
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Posted: 11/06/03 - 18:38 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | KapnKimchi wrote: | 1. Go to Start, then Run and type in services.msc Click Ok
2. Scroll to Messenger, select it, right click it and choose Properties.
3. Under startup choose "Disabled", then choose Stop.
4. When stopped, click Ok.
Voila, no more popups. |
Got to Stop then "Access Denied".
But your skillz are impressive.
The force is strong with this one. |
Dude, log on as admin. I mean, c'mon. Call your IT people.
If it's your own machine, shame on you.
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Tura
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Posted: 11/07/03 - 10:34 Post subject:
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Dunno, but this takes care of Jehovas Witnesses:
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Occulis
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Posted: 11/07/03 - 10:36 Post subject:
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EBONLORE!!!!!
DANCE INTO THE SHADOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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