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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 00:35    Post subject: Front Projection TV's Reply with quote

Anybody own one? IF so, how do you like it?

I'm deciding between a front projection or DLP TV.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 00:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

projection is for huge screens. other wise go dlp. tamena is a good source for this stuff. also http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/ is the ultimate source for anything TV related
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 00:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 07:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLP all the way unless cash is an issue

what's your price range and where are you shopping?

I finally got smart and saved the "tv suggestion" info to make life easier Smile

Few things about TV's to keep in mind here...specially if you're in the USA.

1. They have not defined the way HDTV will be broadcast and will not "lock it in" until 2007. At that time the FCC has mandated that all tv's produced will have to be HD ready. There are around 9 different types of HD signals being used atm...this stops in 2.5 years, when they come up with the standard. *think Beta and VHS tapes...same kind of deal going on with HD atm*

2. Bigger can be better if you're buying the correct tv.
a.there are things to consider depending on what's important to you.
1Into detail? You want to see the feathers on the wing of that bird? The sweat on the players' brow in that game? Video so real it looks almost 3D? Rear projection DLP is the only way to go. Expensive yes...but unbelievable picture and it WILL hold it's picture quality over time. Be ready to spend a bit of $$ on one of these, but you will not be disappointed.
2 detail not all that important...you like it but it's not the end all be all, you just want a nice picture and quality all the way around? Go for a regular rear projection television. It will hold for a LONG time and you shouldn't have problems with it at all color wise, although you will need to do convergence on it occasionally *about once a year maybe* Lower cost than the DLP but still a lot of bang for the buck
3 CRT's are still the most stable picture and quality out there and by far the least expensive of the bunch. Problems are the fact that they are very bulky an weigh a ton. If you're investing in a CRT type tv...spend as much as you can afford and get the HEAVIEST tv you can...yes weight matters...the heavier it is the better chance you have of it being a lasting investment.

3 ALWAYS BUY THE EXTENDED WARRENTEE always...always always always.

4 Combo Units *TV + DVD+ VCR or any combo there of* = BAD....it is highly recommended that you buy seperate pieces, that way if something breaks you don't lose your whole system.

5 Surge Protection....MUST HAVE!! especially with the new equipment they make now. buy a good one, Monster Cable, Surgex, Panamax, Spike Master, Tripplite. Make sure the surge protector offers coverage if your item gets zapped. All of the makes I just mentioned offer replacement or repair coverage for anything that's plugged in thru them.
a anything that comes out of the wall should ALWAYS go thru the surge protector before being attached to the TV. ALWAYS. Think of it as an insurance policy for your toys. And your butt is covered if God forebid something happen and things go POOF!
b make sure the warrentee cards get sent in for the surge protector.
c CALL YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY!!! when you use this type of surge protection, your insurance company will sometimes give you a discount on your coverage. Personal experience talking here...we live in an older home, and I asked about this. They sent an adjuster out to confirm we had these things all over our home...he was thrilled and we got an extra 10% off our premium. Kinda the same thing as the smoke detectors and alarm systems, you're protecting yourself properly and they like that hehehe

6 Plasma - don't buy it, that goes for LCD too, unless for a special application like a bedroom,office,bathroom or kitchen. If this is a main TV you're buying, the dependability on the flat panel tv's is questionable at best. Yes they're pretty but you're better off with a rear projection DLP for the same if not less cash in the long run.



This is what I do for a living. I've worked with consumer electronics for the past 6 years and love it!! Right now I'm working at a place that does high end audio/video and home automation at distribution level, so I see and play with ALL the new toys when they come out *grin* A lot of the manufacturers listen to us when deciding what to develope and bring out for the public. It's a really neat job and I love it...I get paid to play with toys basically and make em sing and dance!!

A few suggestions for brands:
Samsung - rating #1 pretty much across the board atm. Picture, quality, sound, dependability and customer service are excellent. This would be my recommendation for consumer grade video products.
Mitsubishi - another good one, nice pic, a little pricyer than the Samsungs
Magnavox - decent stuff...good cost wise, dependable and good customer service
LG - good stuff, good service, good warrentee and great picture

Most TV's are good...
there are a few to stay away from tho. Number one there being Sony...DO NOT BUY SONY please?!?!?!?!?!?! RCA has seriously slipped in quality lately and so has JVC.
Mid range, but still ok and not as bad as Sony...Panasonic, Toshiba and GE.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 11:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just printed that out:)
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 12:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad to be of assistance Smile

Kbarr? check PM's
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 13:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, I just had an electrician surge protect my whole house (at the electrical panel) for $100.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 13:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad i read this, i would have bought a sony...

Im gunna need to get me a new surround sound system soon, prolly with tax return, what do you suggest? i was gunna get sony with a sony tv so i can run it all on the same remote, but if sony sucks what can i get, remember im real poor (haha pun).
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 15:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

House or apartment Ish and how big a TV?

just going on a guess but try this combo for a start:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1087341905175&skuId=6753523&productCategoryId=cat03006&type=product

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1077626340240&skuId=6314614&productCategoryId=pcmcat40200050004&type=product

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051826203678&skuId=5303664&productCategoryId=cat08065&type=product

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1065169560505&skuId=5426274&productCategoryId=cat08201&type=product

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384447132&skuId=3183799&productCategoryId=cat08055&type=product



that's an entire set up for you for around $1600 depending on sales tax in your area.
Add the DVD player and VCR you prolly already have and you're good to go. Might want to keep an eye on things too...
Best Buy offers 18 months interest free credit if you can get it....
get them now and pay them off competely when your return comes in.
Merry Christmas early that way Smile

also...
the big sales are on the way...
the weekend of Thanksgiving is the time to buy this stuff if you can stand the chaos and mayhem....
I know Draggyn and I will be out the day after Turkey day...
black friday, at 5am we will be SHOPPING! hehehehe
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 16:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry yall but extended warranties are pure shit, period.

www.clarkhoward.com then use search feature for extended warranty...
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 16:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

best buy replacement warrentee is decent as long as it doesn't cost a fortune...


on the LCD and Plasma it's an absolute must, as they WILL s***w up within 3-4 years of normal use.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a JVC about 3 yrs ago... I love it. It's a 32" CRT, weighs a fuckload... my buddy has the same tv, we moved it today, it sucked.

Mine squished my finger while moving... took a good chunk out of it.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 16:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

i live in an apt. i like yamaha surround sound setup.
I WISH i could get a Best Buy Credit Card, but i screwed up my credit when i was younger.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 17:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those 50 inch LCDs they're coming out with now look pretty tempting. Not sure how they'd work in a bright room though.

And lately I've been reading about ultrathin CRTs, like 18" deep, which sounds sort of cool too - guess they're not quite out yet though.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 18:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

LCD ...NO!
Plasma....NO...cept if it's for a special application and you are just trying to win a p*****g contest
DLP ...front or rear projection...YES

Sony and Bose...NO NO NO
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 20:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and BTW.



DLP is the color mechanism. You can get DLP with rear projection, front projection, plasma, LCD, etc, etc.


so why not get a rear projection with dlp and call it a day Wink
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 22:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ishmobbin wrote:
i live in an apt. i like yamaha surround sound setup.
I WISH i could get a Best Buy Credit Card, but i screwed up my credit when i was younger.


That's a great way to avoid debt.
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PostPosted: 11/19/04 - 22:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

rear projection DLP is what I've said to get over and over again if ambient light is an issue...
I assumed that people reading this realized that is what I was talking about after mentioning it in about 16 different threads already.

I will clarify I was speaking abour Rear Projection DLP when I say DLP....
front projection works too but only in low ambient light situations unless you're willing to spend upwards of $11k +
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PostPosted: 11/20/04 - 11:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zuldane wrote:
Ishmobbin wrote:
i live in an apt. i like yamaha surround sound setup.
I WISH i could get a Best Buy Credit Card, but i screwed up my credit when i was younger.


That's a great way to avoid debt.


Yeah, but now i could actually use it, and could manage it, but ah well.
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