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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 10:41    Post subject: France is trying to look important again Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050628/wl_canada_nm/canada_energy_france_nuclear_col
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 10:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a secret plot to blow-up France..shhh
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 11:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously, let france waste their money, who cares =p
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 12:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it not worry anyone else that water, a somewhat important resource for living beings, will possibly be used for fuel?
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occulis wrote:
Does it not worry anyone else that water, a somewhat important resource for living beings, will possibly be used for fuel?


So you enjoy the taste of salt water?
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

You end up drinking salt water cause it evaporates, child.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qaldyin wrote:
You end up drinking salt water cause it evaporates, child.


Idiot.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long-term projects are important - noone can expect the fuel problem to be solved in just a few short years. At least someone's doing something...
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of renewable, pollution-free energy solutions.

The competition for resources is going to be very interesting when those resources supply not just mechanical fuel, heat and light but also provide life.

Aren't you eager to pay Exxon 30% of your income?
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be like the guy on " I <3 Huckabees " and ride a bycicle everywhere. You enviorment killing bastards!
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 13:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

The solution is very matter-efficient at first, but as you probably well know, the human 'need' for electricity grows to match the supply. New, popular gadgets will become affordable because the huge energy requirements, previously cost prohibitive, will suddenly be affordable. Doesn't every aspiring artist need a 250,000 watt kiln to fire their pots in at home? Why have an efficient CPU using only 3 watts of energy when 300,000,000 watts is just as cheap?

People are gluttonous, stupid creatures who can barely see past the end of their nose. We are as blind to subtle changes as the proverbial frog in a pot of slowly heating water.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

We won't be dependant on this for fuel like we are with oil.

Physics has changed so much and grown so fast lately, I doubt fusion will ever become the planets main energy source.

By the time they develop the means to make it effecient, it will be old technology, and we'll be harvesting raw energy from thin air.

So like I said, let france waste their money, who cares.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 15:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occulis wrote:
The solution is very matter-efficient at first, but as you probably well know, the human 'need' for electricity grows to match the supply. New, popular gadgets will become affordable because the huge energy requirements, previously cost prohibitive, will suddenly be affordable. Doesn't every aspiring artist need a 250,000 watt kiln to fire their pots in at home? Why have an efficient CPU using only 3 watts of energy when 300,000,000 watts is just as cheap?

People are gluttonous, stupid creatures who can barely see past the end of their nose. We are as blind to subtle changes as the proverbial frog in a pot of slowly heating water.


Good show!
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 15:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
Occulis wrote:
The solution is very matter-efficient at first, but as you probably well know, the human 'need' for electricity grows to match the supply. New, popular gadgets will become affordable because the huge energy requirements, previously cost prohibitive, will suddenly be affordable. Doesn't every aspiring artist need a 250,000 watt kiln to fire their pots in at home? Why have an efficient CPU using only 3 watts of energy when 300,000,000 watts is just as cheap?

People are gluttonous, stupid creatures who can barely see past the end of their nose. We are as blind to subtle changes as the proverbial frog in a pot of slowly heating water.


Good show!


not really, as ineffecient as crude oil is, we're still far from exhausting the oil supply we have, and it comes nowhere near to the 2/3rd mass of the planet like water does, it would take us eons to exhaust it all
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 15:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

khrath wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
Occulis wrote:
The solution is very matter-efficient at first, but as you probably well know, the human 'need' for electricity grows to match the supply. New, popular gadgets will become affordable because the huge energy requirements, previously cost prohibitive, will suddenly be affordable. Doesn't every aspiring artist need a 250,000 watt kiln to fire their pots in at home? Why have an efficient CPU using only 3 watts of energy when 300,000,000 watts is just as cheap?

People are gluttonous, stupid creatures who can barely see past the end of their nose. We are as blind to subtle changes as the proverbial frog in a pot of slowly heating water.


Good show!


not really, as ineffecient as crude oil is, we're still far from exhausting the oil supply we have, and it comes nowhere near to the 2/3rd mass of the planet like water does, it would take us eons to exhaust it all


Exactly. Getting worried about using up our oceans is stupid.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 16:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

khrath wrote:
Silvermouse wrote:
Occulis wrote:
The solution is very matter-efficient at first, but as you probably well know, the human 'need' for electricity grows to match the supply. New, popular gadgets will become affordable because the huge energy requirements, previously cost prohibitive, will suddenly be affordable. Doesn't every aspiring artist need a 250,000 watt kiln to fire their pots in at home? Why have an efficient CPU using only 3 watts of energy when 300,000,000 watts is just as cheap?

People are gluttonous, stupid creatures who can barely see past the end of their nose. We are as blind to subtle changes as the proverbial frog in a pot of slowly heating water.


Good show!


not really, as ineffecient as crude oil is, we're still far from exhausting the oil supply we have, and it comes nowhere near to the 2/3rd mass of the planet like water does, it would take us eons to exhaust it all


I was talking about his comments about humans.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 16:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

France will be broke in 50 years anyway because their Colony Money from the Imperial Age is about to run out and no one in france works or does anything they just live off the past and drink wine.
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PostPosted: 06/28/05 - 22:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do realize the only reason there aren't city-sized cruise ships is fuel issues, right?

If people could literally destroy (not evaporate - but destroy) 500 gallons of water per second so their "Floating Atlanta" could cross the ocean, they would.

And if you think 500 gallons per second is ridiculous, consider this: People in developed countries use twice as much electricity as those in non-developed. The amount of electricity used is directly proportional to the amount of electricity available.

In other words, the more electricity you can cheaply spend, the more you think you need to use cheaply. I don't see anyone here giving up their 6.5" 2kW fridge in favor of an energy efficient one.

When there are renewable resources available, burning water doesn't make any sense at all.
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