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wellspoken
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 Posted: 04/28/05 - 16:44 Post subject: Florida Governor Signs Deadly Force Law
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=8315468
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - Florida Gov. Jeb Bush signed a new anti-crime law on Tuesday that allows people to kill in self-defense without first trying to flee.
Supporters say the law is a logical extension of common law that allows homeowners who fear for their lives to use deadly force to defend themselves from an intruder in their homes.
The new law expands that doctrine to include people in public places who feel threatened and could be subject to death or great bodily harm.
"To suggest that you can't defend yourself against a rapist, who's trying to drag you into an alley, or against a carjacker who's trying to drag you out of your car is nonsense," said Marion Hammer, a former president of the National Rifle Association.
"The ability to protect yourself, your children or your spouse, is important, no matter where you are."
Critics of the new law, called the "Stand Your Ground" bill, have few objections to allowing people to protect themselves in their homes but say the bill will create a "Wild West" mentality in public, where residents may shoot first and ask questions later.
"There are going to be a lot of repercussions," said Rep. Eleanor Sobel, a Democrat. "You could have someone reaching into their pocket and if the person felt threatened he could shoot."
Like many states, Florida courts have ruled that homeowners have a right to defend themselves in their homes. Florida courts have expanded the doctrine to include employees in their workplace and drivers who are attacked in their automobiles.
Outside the home, however, courts have ruled that most victims must at least attempt to escape before using deadly force, a provision gun advocates say puts victims at greater risk. The new law removes that requirement if a person has a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.
"All this bill will do is sell more guns and possibly turn Florida into the OK Corral," Rep. Irv Slosberg, a Democrat, said during recent debate on the bill.
| Quote: | | Florida Gov. Jeb Bush signed a new anti-crime law on Tuesday that allows people to kill in self-defense without first trying to flee. |
Yay for shoot first, ask questions later.
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kbarr
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 16:48 Post subject:
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Xion
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 16:52 Post subject: Re: Florida Governor Signs Deadly Force Law
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| wellspoken wrote: |
Yay for shoot first, ask questions later. |
I'm pretty neutral when it comes to gun control, but you're just f*****g ignorant. Your statement completely over-simplifies the law.
The law leaves it up for the courts, and thus a jury of your peers, to decide whether you had a "reasonable fear" of death or injury. A guy reaching into his pocket would not be a "reasonable fear" and thus if someone shot that person, they'd go to jail.
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wellspoken
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 16:52 Post subject:
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nice gun
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Kurel
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 19:26 Post subject:
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About time.
I'm no gun nut, I don't even own a gun, but knowing there are responsable people out there with them makes me feel safer.
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Aeain
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 21:19 Post subject:
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Very Nice!
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Overon
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 21:21 Post subject:
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So does this mean dueling is legal?
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Frax
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 21:21 Post subject:
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I heard (haven't confirmed) that at least 8 states have even more lenient laws.
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Renork
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Posted: 04/28/05 - 21:23 Post subject:
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| Overon wrote: | | So does this mean dueling is legal? |
haha good point!
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wellspoken
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Posted: 04/29/05 - 11:35 Post subject: Re: Florida Governor Signs Deadly Force Law
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| Xion wrote: | | wellspoken wrote: |
Yay for shoot first, ask questions later. |
I'm pretty neutral when it comes to gun control, but you're just f*****g ignorant. Your statement completely over-simplifies the law.
The law leaves it up for the courts, and thus a jury of your peers, to decide whether you had a "reasonable fear" of death or injury. A guy reaching into his pocket would not be a "reasonable fear" and thus if someone shot that person, they'd go to jail. |
If it comes down to self defense, what would you do?
Ask your attacker if hes going to hurt you before you do anything about it?
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