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Luke Warm
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 Posted: 02/14/05 - 09:35 Post subject:
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| Haphasto wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text) |
Yeah, WoW has none of those quests, infact every quest I do, is absolutely different. Yesterday instead of killing 10 turtles, I killed 10 yetis. Then there was this one great quest where I killed 12 lions. |
Bounty quests - both games have it
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 09:48 Post subject:
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| Haphasto wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Haphasto wrote: | | never said you did, but since WoW is so superior to EQ2 in every way, I was just giving an example of that. |
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EQ2 blows WoW completely away. EQ2's models are pretty sweet, WoW is fairly cartoony.
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Oops. Here's the point of contention, because everybody has their own reasons why they like one game more than another. Can you convince me to like the Patriots because they are the best team in football? Of course not. Nor can you convince someone that they should play EQ2 because it's a better game on paper. I like WoW better because it fits in perfectly with my style of play and my timeframe. If EQ2 had been like WoW as far as soloability from the start, I'd still be playing right now. |
You liked EQ2's models? Personally I thought the males looked a little to feminin mostly in the facial structure and the eyes (hell everytime I looked at my barbarian I thought he had some trace of homosexuallity  . I did really love their level of customization though. WoW has no where near the number of choices for character avatars as EQ2 does, which is why you'll run around in WoW alot and see 10 others in the same zone who look exactly like you, if WoW would have given you more customizations options, I would probably favor it over EQ2.
And for the last part, that's all really true, and it's pretty much all you had to say in the first place. If you're like me, and go to a community college (homework is easy, except for papers), work all week, but live on very little sleep, and have up to 8 hours a night to devote to gaming (yes i'm a geek, but atleast I get out on the weekends), EQ2 is probably more your style of game (I don't play EQ2 anymore, but i'm considering going back after WoW flopped). But if your like my friend who started EQ2 with me a couple months ago, who worked from 9:00 A.M. - 5:00 P.M. and went to bed at 10:00 P.M. and therefore only have 4 hours at the most a night to devote to gaming, WoW is probably more your style, because it's extremely easy to jump in and start playing.
I didn't like it though, because i'd jump in and pretty much play for about 6-7 hours, and when you are playing that much in WoW, it can get very boring because of how easy it is, you really come to realize that the game lacks alot of content for hardcore players. Being more of a casual gamer though, you never really come to that realization, because you are happy getting what you want done, in a short period of time.
Now that this is obviously cleared up, i'm sure we can go on without anymore posts about (EQ2 > WoW) or (WoW>EQ2)[/b] |
As far as the bashing goes I don't really care who bashes what if you actually played both games and not just up until level 20 because that is not "playing" the games. Same problem with all the reviews and shit that came out ages ago when the games were released - none of those people who reviews the game actually "played' either game to give a realistic review on either
The only thing that bothers me is the a******s who come in here and say this is better then that and whatever who really have no idea and comment about things they read from some other j**k off online.
Regardless of which game I chose as my likinng or not I would feel the same way regardless of it being wow or eq2.
One thing that looks much more promising and is no secret is you know that SOE isn't going anywhere with their game and will be adding to the game years down the road - does the same hold up for WoW ? Personally I would bet against that, EQ2 has added so many zones, instances and such since release it easily could have been an expansion already and the changes to the game as well have been excellent, the dragon encounters or boss encounters are also great. Seeing Nagafan being level 100 looked cool as well 
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Frax
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 10:36 Post subject:
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Have you played WoW to level 60?
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Mogling
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 10:41 Post subject:
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SM:Well I dont enjoy the game, mostly due to crappy solo content.
EQ2Gimp01:But dude, it has these great lore quests.
SM:But, it lacks enjoyable solo content.
EQ2Gimp01:But the quests are somuch better then WoW's.
EQ2Gimp02:And WoW has kiddy graphics and bnet players!
SM:But I like wow due to the fast pace, as I have little play time.
EQ2Gimp03:They are buffing solo content tho!
SM:It wasn't like that when I was there and now I'm here...
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 13:12 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Have you played WoW to level 60? |
no but you don't need to be 60 in wow either to know what is ahead - level 56 is far enough
I know about 10-15 people who played to 60 and have all quit but 2 of them at the moment because there simply is nothing to do.
and to echo the same question to you Frax how far did you actually play EQ2 or did you at all?
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 14:39 Post subject:
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| Nictathan wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: |
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EQ2 has a nice variety of good songs
WoW has some good ones as well. A few of WoW's tunes are reminiscent of Dungeon Siege, a s****y game with awesome music.
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I seriously take offense to this as DS was one of my favorite games... I liked it lots and it was cool to play pre-release on a gold master, huzzah for a friend who worked on it.
Really though I spent lots of time playing this game and enjoyed it thoroughly for it's entertainment value. |
DS was linear and repetitive. You go in a straight line from the start to the end, and then start over with tougher monsters. Like I said, the music was incredible, and I liked the way the equipment looked.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 14:43 Post subject:
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| Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc. |
I have zero lag in town ever - actually no zone period.
The quests in EQ2 are some of the best parts of the game and if all you did was go get bounty quests then sure there is nothing special about them but really you need to get a clue because there is no question hands down the quests and content are so far above WoW's and yeah I have played them both and not just to level 20 in wow as well not that it doesn't take more then 2-3 days to get to level 20+ in WoW
You really have no idea what EQ2 is at the point you quit |
Let's see. I bought just about every book in Qeynos that I could complete, hoping they would be cool quests and they all were about the same: "Kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill...wtf? 10 more hawks? jesus christ...". The other books just have you run around to various places to discover the history of whatever race.
I want you to give me an example of one of the awesome EQ quests you're talking about, because most quests in general for mmorpgs suck.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 14:44 Post subject:
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| Violator wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Have you played WoW to level 60? |
no but you don't need to be 60 in wow either to know what is ahead - level 56 is far enough
I know about 10-15 people who played to 60 and have all quit but 2 of them at the moment because there simply is nothing to do.
and to echo the same question to you Frax how far did you actually play EQ2 or did you at all? |
Do they play on a PvP server?
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Overon
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:06 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc. |
I have zero lag in town ever - actually no zone period.
The quests in EQ2 are some of the best parts of the game and if all you did was go get bounty quests then sure there is nothing special about them but really you need to get a clue because there is no question hands down the quests and content are so far above WoW's and yeah I have played them both and not just to level 20 in wow as well not that it doesn't take more then 2-3 days to get to level 20+ in WoW
You really have no idea what EQ2 is at the point you quit |
Let's see. I bought just about every book in Qeynos that I could complete, hoping they would be cool quests and they all were about the same: "Kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill...wtf? 10 more hawks? jesus christ...". The other books just have you run around to various places to discover the history of whatever race.
I want you to give me an example of one of the awesome EQ quests you're talking about, because most quests in general for mmorpgs suck. |
there are some good ones that involve instanced zones ... nek castle for instance is really awesome .. and i liked the boat rides for island access a lot too
there are others that are cool like the jboots race and the trials for the shiny brass shield .. a lot of the quests are kill X and get Y but there are plenty that are more interesting than that .. the ability to have clicky items alone makes for cool possible quests .. i remember sneaking around stormhold where everything was WAY redcon to me trying to click artifacts for a quest .. was fun ..
but really theres more to the quests than just KILL X .. even sometimes that KILL X is an encounter that gets spawned just for you entering a location .. when you're a noob you dont get to see much of this except for when you choose your class and subclass (and when you first start out the game) .. and even so you dont see all that much of it unless you go looking for it .. but they do add depth to the game, and make it more interesting
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:33 Post subject:
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I think I'm just a little jaded on questing in general. The one I really liked was the bard subclass one in Freeport, where you play the music.
If most quests were like that, I would be in hog heaven. As it is, I'm just in hog.
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Andur Ravenblade
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:36 Post subject:
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Ok as a guy with a 51 druid, i've knocked out a large portion of quests in WoW, and I have a 28 Assassin in EQ2, and i've knocked out a quite few quests there.
They are the same. Both of them have quests that make your jaw drop cause they are just that good. And both have your very normal quests.
These games are very similar, the main differences lie in the grouping/soloing mechanisms, and how long it takes to level.
The other difference (at the moment) is the fact that the Sony devs are doing their job, and the Blizzard devs aren't. The amount of issues with the lack of anything to do at 60 in WoW coupled with the ease of leveling is really hurting. Also the raid lock, and bugs revolving around it is seriously killing WoW for the higher end raid guilds (basically you can raid Molten core once a week, and if half your guild gets the wrong lockout you need to wait two weeks to get it all settled).
Even with all the huge problems in WoW with the servers, and the minor class bugs/content bugs floating around, people are begging for an expansion after 3 months.
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:51 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Violator wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Have you played WoW to level 60? |
no but you don't need to be 60 in wow either to know what is ahead - level 56 is far enough
I know about 10-15 people who played to 60 and have all quit but 2 of them at the moment because there simply is nothing to do.
and to echo the same question to you Frax how far did you actually play EQ2 or did you at all? |
Do they play on a PvP server? |
2 of them do - 1 still does and 1 does not
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:55 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc. |
I have zero lag in town ever - actually no zone period.
The quests in EQ2 are some of the best parts of the game and if all you did was go get bounty quests then sure there is nothing special about them but really you need to get a clue because there is no question hands down the quests and content are so far above WoW's and yeah I have played them both and not just to level 20 in wow as well not that it doesn't take more then 2-3 days to get to level 20+ in WoW
You really have no idea what EQ2 is at the point you quit |
Let's see. I bought just about every book in Qeynos that I could complete, hoping they would be cool quests and they all were about the same: "Kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill...wtf? 10 more hawks? jesus christ...". The other books just have you run around to various places to discover the history of whatever race.
I want you to give me an example of one of the awesome EQ quests you're talking about, because most quests in general for mmorpgs suck. |
Are you for real!!??
Books from qeynos quests.....LOL
Honestly man you have not even began to play EQ2 if that is the extent to ANY quest you have looked at.
There is great quests in the game to sit here and name of 50 steps that some may have and the story lines that go along with them would take forever - if you really want to read some things on them then surf the net but in all honesty I have loved some of the quests in EQ2 to the point where I was disappointed it was over when completed.
If you really do like to "quest" then i highly recommend you giving it another shot for your own benefit
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 17:58 Post subject:
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| Andur Ravenblade wrote: | Ok as a guy with a 51 druid, i've knocked out a large portion of quests in WoW, and I have a 28 Assassin in EQ2, and i've knocked out a quite few quests there.
They are the same. Both of them have quests that make your jaw drop cause they are just that good. And both have your very normal quests.
These games are very similar, the main differences lie in the grouping/soloing mechanisms, and how long it takes to level.
The other difference (at the moment) is the fact that the Sony devs are doing their job, and the Blizzard devs aren't. The amount of issues with the lack of anything to do at 60 in WoW coupled with the ease of leveling is really hurting. Also the raid lock, and bugs revolving around it is seriously killing WoW for the higher end raid guilds (basically you can raid Molten core once a week, and if half your guild gets the wrong lockout you need to wait two weeks to get it all settled).
Even with all the huge problems in WoW with the servers, and the minor class bugs/content bugs floating around, people are begging for an expansion after 3 months. |
And really Andur you haven't even begun some of the real jaw dropping quests as far as EQ2 goes........you will see that yourself as time goes on.
I have almost 500 completed quests in EQ2 and about 100 of those are the useless ones I would say which are go kill 10 of this and what not but those are in EVERY zone as you progress for free xp and coin since you are killing X mob anyhow
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 18:26 Post subject:
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| Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc. |
I have zero lag in town ever - actually no zone period.
The quests in EQ2 are some of the best parts of the game and if all you did was go get bounty quests then sure there is nothing special about them but really you need to get a clue because there is no question hands down the quests and content are so far above WoW's and yeah I have played them both and not just to level 20 in wow as well not that it doesn't take more then 2-3 days to get to level 20+ in WoW
You really have no idea what EQ2 is at the point you quit |
Let's see. I bought just about every book in Qeynos that I could complete, hoping they would be cool quests and they all were about the same: "Kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill 10 juvenile hawks, kill...wtf? 10 more hawks? jesus christ...". The other books just have you run around to various places to discover the history of whatever race.
I want you to give me an example of one of the awesome EQ quests you're talking about, because most quests in general for mmorpgs suck. |
Are you for real!!??
Books from qeynos quests.....LOL
Honestly man you have not even began to play EQ2 if that is the extent to ANY quest you have looked at.
There is great quests in the game to sit here and name of 50 steps that some may have and the story lines that go along with them would take forever - if you really want to read some things on them then surf the net but in all honesty I have loved some of the quests in EQ2 to the point where I was disappointed it was over when completed.
If you really do like to "quest" then i highly recommend you giving it another shot for your own benefit |
I had nearly 500 quests completed before I quit. Most of them were of the variety I mentioned earlier, but they were glorified with flavor text. I was hoping the book quests would be different, but they weren't.
What else is there to say? Sure, 4% of the quests are awesome, but...well?
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Overon
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 18:34 Post subject:
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4% of 10,000 is still a lot of quests
it all just boils down to when the game gets boring for you
this is assuming you aren't just mindlessly climbing the levels
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Haphasto
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 19:42 Post subject:
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4 pages OMGZ!!!!
One thing I did remember in EQ2, was the great quests. Even on the noob island, I thought the quests were great, and that's why I think EQ2 was the best MMORPG start for me since EQLive, I was just drawn in. Once I got to Qeynos, my Shaman quest was a blast, and so was the Mystic one. I think I had about 100 quests completed at 27, and probably 20 of those were boring.
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| Haphasto wrote: | | 4 pages OMGZ!!!! |
Yeah, im just surprised Goraz hasn't showed up yet with his tool-box full of dildo's and EQ2 insults.
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