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Nictathan
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 Posted: 02/13/05 - 05:37 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Baha wrote: | | SM, you moron: Qeynos -> EL -> Nekt. it requires you to zone twice, with no walking whatsoever. Of course soloing needed a buff, my point is, you don't seem to realize how ridiculous your b******g about soloing is in regards to a Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, especially the fact that you quit over lack of effectiveness in it as you "approached" higher levels. I mean, hello, we all played EQ1 right? Least you(every class) can solo in eq2. EQ2 also has the *best* class ballance. |
I had no idea I could zone to EL before level 30. Thanks! That's a good thing to know...
The reason they buffed soloing was that a large contingent of SOE's base (including me) bitched about how much it sucked, and in a desperate attempt to keep our revenue, they actually got off their ass and made a change. That means that lots of other people felt like me. Call it Mass Multiplayer, but apparantly a huge chunk of that are people like me.
And I soloed just fine in EQ as a druid! I think I grouped like twice in 65/100. |
25+ for EL and Zek
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 10:45 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Baha wrote: | | 1, solo got seriously buffed. 2, so you're saying you purchased play time on an MMORPG to solo and got mad when you couldnt do it as well? wow. just wow. 3, amazing you thought that, I thoguht 1-20 sucked compared to the rest. neat. also, who are the fuckwads b******g about travel time? eq2 owns wow for travel time. ever been to the barrens? |
Can you think of a reason why SOE would buff soloing? I want you to think hard about this... |
Because people are too much of a p***y to get into a group and it wasn't ONLY solo that was buffed so was groups of a few people.
Some people just prefer to be alone in life I guess..........heh
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 10:48 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Isriam wrote: | | shit eq2 owns travel more than eq1 did lol. gate to your city, ring bell to east freeport, that teleports you to 4 of the major dungeons immediatly. f*****g idiots on realpoor. |
So that's how you get to Nektulos from Qeynos? Or TS from Freeport? I had no idea it was so easy. Thanks for clearing that up, Isram. |
Lol silver - get a ticket to ANY of the continents from Qeynos and u hit the bell from there to either TS or Nekt or whatever - use your head it is all of 1 minute to get to Nekt from Qey and that is if you zone slow
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 10:56 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Baha wrote: | | SM, you moron: Qeynos -> EL -> Nekt. it requires you to zone twice, with no walking whatsoever. Of course soloing needed a buff, my point is, you don't seem to realize how ridiculous your b******g about soloing is in regards to a Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, especially the fact that you quit over lack of effectiveness in it as you "approached" higher levels. I mean, hello, we all played EQ1 right? Least you(every class) can solo in eq2. EQ2 also has the *best* class ballance. |
I had no idea I could zone to EL before level 30. Thanks! That's a good thing to know...
The reason they buffed soloing was that a large contingent of SOE's base (including me) bitched about how much it sucked, and in a desperate attempt to keep our revenue, they actually got off their ass and made a change. That means that lots of other people felt like me. Call it Mass Multiplayer, but apparantly a huge chunk of that are people like me.
And I soloed just fine in EQ as a druid! I think I grouped like twice in 65/100. |
You can zone to EL at level 25 and from qeynos to TS isn't that far off either when u can take a bird right there
Basically there is no arguing the travel because really there isn't much at all in EQ2 regardless if u play or not anymore simply there is next to none - period
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Isriam
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 10:59 Post subject:
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Think of Nektulos and TS as PoK. From there you can get to almost anywhere. But if you're going to your hometown ie Kelethin or Neriak you might have to zone 1-2 times to get to your city.
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 11:07 Post subject:
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| Aviger wrote: | | Quote: | | I don't get why almost no one can just come out and say "they both have their highs, and they both have their lows, and are both great in their on respect" |
Let me be the first. They do both have benefits and defects.
Personally i like WoW much better simply because the graphics look better TO ME.
EQ2 has immensely beautifull backdrops and zonelayout but the character models and chat system (the chat bubbles) are just f*****g ugly and s****y.
Wow to me has funner char graphics but simpler world graphics.
They both fall short of the awe and wonder of EQ1, and they just dont draw me in as much.
The biggets problem with EQ2 is the fact they designed it to run uber on a system 3 years away. that just makes me go "wtf".
I buy a game, i want all of it to be good. not have to wait 3 years and buy a new computer 
WoW is defenitaly easier on the casual player though.
But they both wont be as "big" as EQ1 |
Ahhhhh you can turn off the chat bubbles........
It runs perfectly fine on my system pretty much every option maxxed
P4 3.2 - 2gigs ram - X800 video card
You obviously didn't look too much into the 800 options that EQ2 has if you didn't even find the chat/bubble options
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 11:08 Post subject:
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| Overon wrote: | | Haphasto wrote: | | Either way though EQ2 is for the more hardcore MMORPG fan, and WoW is for the more casual. For me WoW was too easy, and repetitive, and EQ2 was just repetitive. (I swear I didn't leave Varsoons for 7 levels, I had to stare at Clay Guardians for what seemed to be an eternity, casting ward over and over and over on the tank.) |
you didnt have to stay in varsoons for 7 levels ..
thats just being rigid
you cant blame EQ for your inability to explore |
I almost thought the same thing.......why would you stay there for so long heh
You sure didn't have to
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 15:25 Post subject:
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| Violator wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Baha wrote: | | 1, solo got seriously buffed. 2, so you're saying you purchased play time on an MMORPG to solo and got mad when you couldnt do it as well? wow. just wow. 3, amazing you thought that, I thoguht 1-20 sucked compared to the rest. neat. also, who are the fuckwads b******g about travel time? eq2 owns wow for travel time. ever been to the barrens? |
Can you think of a reason why SOE would buff soloing? I want you to think hard about this... |
Because people are too much of a p***y to get into a group and it wasn't ONLY solo that was buffed so was groups of a few people.
Some people just prefer to be alone in life I guess..........heh |
haha classic
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 15:27 Post subject:
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Anyway, it's time to wrap up this thread: WoW is awesome, EQ2 sucks. People that play WoW are f****n tight, people that play EQ2 are f****n p*****s
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Baha
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 15:31 Post subject:
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yeah, all these 12-14 year olds sure are "f*****g tight" (haha, you're a n**d, pls dont). my favorite part about them is how they ditch a group after power looting all their applicable quest items.
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Gethy
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 15:52 Post subject:
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But does EQII have the better storyline or what? The official story on the website was downright rivetting.
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Grizmaster
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 16:02 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Anyway, it's time to wrap up this thread: WoW is awesome, EQ2 sucks. People that play WoW are f****n tight, people that play EQ2 are f****n p*****s |
WoW sucks completely, it's too fast paced and 2/3 of the population in that game are 12 year old immature kiddies playing it. EQ2 has better content, more things to do, and definately has a much better storyline than WoW(They should rename WoW to World of Shit since it's pure shit anyways, lol). The only thing WoW has that's better than EQ2 is in some ways I like the interface better, that's it. Hell, you can raid in EQ2, but if you try to raid in WoW, you're in for a long night because of the gay shit lag that's constantly there, oh and it's not my connection nor my computer, I can run Doom 3 damn well and it's much better graphically than EQ2 or WoW combined.
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Frax
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 16:15 Post subject:
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SM vs the EQ2 Fanboys
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Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 17:04 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | SM vs the EQ2 Fanboys |
In all honesty it has nothing to do with fanboys, thing is if you actually played both significantly there really is no comparison if you ask me in pretty much all areas.
EQ2 has much more involved quests, much better story, much better end game, higher level of intelligence playing the game, much better graphically in my mind as I prefer to play crashbandicoot games on my xbox over a game I pay monthly to be invovled in.
Really all these online games are what you want out of a game and your time, if you want an easier game, faster levelling game, a game that basically has next to no penalty for deaths then WoW is your game.
I don't care what you or anyone else plays, bottom line is the f**s that dis games who have not played them - I have played both and I prefer what I play for many reasons that out weigh the latter and if it were the opposite then that is what I would be playing but it just isn't period.
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Andur Ravenblade
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 17:13 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | SM vs the EQ2 Fanboys |
Except i'm not a fanboy Frax. I still play WoW. It just failed to be even close to what was expected. It's EQ again, so might as well go with the one that has the Dev's doing their job at the moment, which is EQ2.
When the WoW devs get off their asses, then i'll probably start playing WoW more again,
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Baha
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 19:04 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | SM vs the EQ2 Fanboys |
whats interesting about that is, I see b******t I'm gonna call it b******t, regardless of the medium of dispute. despite all that what game do I play? wow. because thats where my friends went.
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Overon
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Posted: 02/13/05 - 19:26 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | SM vs the EQ2 Fanboys |
i havnt played WoW that much .. but if it wasnt for having to buy it and pay monthly for 2 games id definitely play it some .. if anything to see how PvP is
i also play EQ2 because thats where my friends are ..
i'm pretty sure both games have their strong points .. maybe when i'm done with EQ2 ill try wow ..
so dont give me this b******t, theres always some idiot fanboys in any game you play that are too arrogant and narrow minded to even consider that they might enjoy it more if they put their money into the competition (it just itches me as so pathetic being that its just a f*****g MMORPG) .. the whole reason I posted my first post in this topic was because i kept seeing random wow players coming to this forum and posting that EQ2 sucks for no apparent reason .. i mean, what the hell is the point? are you trying to prove one by coming here and posting "LOL U ALL SUX"? because the only one youre proving is that youre a f*****g fanboy
ugh, i shouldnt have even wasted my time posting this
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SkilledShaman
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 00:18 Post subject:
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i once over dosed on drugs, played wow and gain 15 levels in 1 night
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Grizmaster
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 01:41 Post subject:
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I've played eq2 to level 20 the first month it came out and I played WoW to level 20 when I got it last month. I'm not back into EQ2 and enjoying it again, much better than WoW.
Honestly, there's nothing in WoW I like except for the way they do tradeskills, the graphics are too much simular to Warcraft 3's graphics which sucks compared to the graphics of today's games. WoW's too fast paced for me as well, you can get levels in no time. The main reason I don't like WoW is because there's too many immature kids everywhere you got in that game and it's hard to find a group even with a popular class.
As for EverQuest 2 I like the quests, the storyline, the ability to betray your hometown, combat(heroic opertunities), and the way death is. Also, it's much more enjoyable than WoW since there's not as many kiddies around in EQ2. 
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 01:56 Post subject:
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Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc.
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Grizmaster
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 02:11 Post subject:
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The lagginess in towns seems to have improved a bit for me since starting back up compared to the first month eq2 came out, it's still choppy, but not as horrible as it was at release time.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 03:07 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text) |
Yeah, WoW has none of those quests, infact every quest I do, is absolutely different. Yesterday instead of killing 10 turtles, I killed 10 yetis. Then there was this one great quest where I killed 12 lions.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 03:21 Post subject:
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| Haphasto wrote: | | Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text) |
Yeah, WoW has none of those quests, infact every quest I do, is absolutely different. Yesterday instead of killing 10 turtles, I killed 10 yetis. Then there was this one great quest where I killed 12 lions. |
Did I say that the WoW quests were in any way unique? I scrolled up, but I didn't see the part where I said that. Was it a deleted post, or...?
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Haphasto
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 04:08 Post subject:
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never said you did, but since WoW is so superior to EQ2 in every way, I was just giving an example of that.
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Xieroth
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 04:53 Post subject:
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Name of the game is insult one negating the other.
Please follow the rules.
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Nictathan
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 05:01 Post subject:
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I played both, quite a bit even...
My char had around 2 days played on him when I quit EQ2
I quit because I started losing friends to WoW.
WoW has PVP, that's the only real advantage it has, everything but graphics are equal. In the graphics dept EQ2 is more to my liking.
I also like the fact that I can actually help my friends if I want (PL'ing), I don't feel I should be unable to assist friends to get to the point I am just because I have more playing time and can get higher.
EQ2 when it came to content seemed to be on par with WoW, and vice versa, no real winner here I'm thinking (at least at the point I am now)
I think EQ2 has more high end content but I haven't experienced either for myself so I can't say.
Really though, being able to have fun and do stuff like duel my friends really wins out in the end. Just my 2 cents.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 05:32 Post subject:
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| Haphasto wrote: | | never said you did, but since WoW is so superior to EQ2 in every way, I was just giving an example of that. |
WoW is not in the slightest better than EQ2 in every way.
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EQ2 has a nice variety of good songs
WoW has some good ones as well. A few of WoW's tunes are reminiscent of Dungeon Siege, a s****y game with awesome music.
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EQ2 by a landslide, although I got pretty tired of hearing Naysayer Nosno saying "The end is near! Flee while you can, the shattering was only the beginning..." over and over and over.
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EQ2 blows WoW completely away. EQ2's models are pretty sweet, WoW is fairly cartoony.
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Both games have "hail X, gather Y, kill Z" as the majority of their quests. Nothing special here. EQ2 tends to dress theirs up better with more flavor text, however.
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Oops. Here's the point of contention, because everybody has their own reasons why they like one game more than another. Can you convince me to like the Patriots because they are the best team in football? Of course not. Nor can you convince someone that they should play EQ2 because it's a better game on paper. I like WoW better because it fits in perfectly with my style of play and my timeframe. If EQ2 had been like WoW as far as soloability from the start, I'd still be playing right now.
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Nictathan
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 06:11 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: |
Music
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EQ2 has a nice variety of good songs
WoW has some good ones as well. A few of WoW's tunes are reminiscent of Dungeon Siege, a s****y game with awesome music.
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I seriously take offense to this as DS was one of my favorite games... I liked it lots and it was cool to play pre-release on a gold master, huzzah for a friend who worked on it.
Really though I spent lots of time playing this game and enjoyed it thoroughly for it's entertainment value.
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Haphasto
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 06:28 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Haphasto wrote: | | never said you did, but since WoW is so superior to EQ2 in every way, I was just giving an example of that. |
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EQ2 blows WoW completely away. EQ2's models are pretty sweet, WoW is fairly cartoony.
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Oops. Here's the point of contention, because everybody has their own reasons why they like one game more than another. Can you convince me to like the Patriots because they are the best team in football? Of course not. Nor can you convince someone that they should play EQ2 because it's a better game on paper. I like WoW better because it fits in perfectly with my style of play and my timeframe. If EQ2 had been like WoW as far as soloability from the start, I'd still be playing right now. |
You liked EQ2's models? Personally I thought the males looked a little to feminin mostly in the facial structure and the eyes (hell everytime I looked at my barbarian I thought he had some trace of homosexuallity . I did really love their level of customization though. WoW has no where near the number of choices for character avatars as EQ2 does, which is why you'll run around in WoW alot and see 10 others in the same zone who look exactly like you, if WoW would have given you more customizations options, I would probably favor it over EQ2.
And for the last part, that's all really true, and it's pretty much all you had to say in the first place. If you're like me, and go to a community college (homework is easy, except for papers), work all week, but live on very little sleep, and have up to 8 hours a night to devote to gaming (yes i'm a geek, but atleast I get out on the weekends), EQ2 is probably more your style of game (I don't play EQ2 anymore, but i'm considering going back after WoW flopped). But if your like my friend who started EQ2 with me a couple months ago, who worked from 9:00 A.M. - 5:00 P.M. and went to bed at 10:00 P.M. and therefore only have 4 hours at the most a night to devote to gaming, WoW is probably more your style, because it's extremely easy to jump in and start playing.
I didn't like it though, because i'd jump in and pretty much play for about 6-7 hours, and when you are playing that much in WoW, it can get very boring because of how easy it is, you really come to realize that the game lacks alot of content for hardcore players. Being more of a casual gamer though, you never really come to that realization, because you are happy getting what you want done, in a short period of time.
Now that this is obviously cleared up, i'm sure we can go on without anymore posts about (EQ2 > WoW) or (WoW>EQ2)[/b]
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Violator
Luke Warm
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Posted: 02/14/05 - 09:31 Post subject:
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| Silvermouse wrote: | | Yeah, EQ2 just isn't the game for me. I didn't really like the story, the quests were nothing special (talk all you want about heritage quests, they are just longer versions of "kill X, gather Y" with more flavor text), the graphics were too laggy in town, I don't like the battle system, soloing was a b***h, etc. |
I have zero lag in town ever - actually no zone period.
The quests in EQ2 are some of the best parts of the game and if all you did was go get bounty quests then sure there is nothing special about them but really you need to get a clue because there is no question hands down the quests and content are so far above WoW's and yeah I have played them both and not just to level 20 in wow as well not that it doesn't take more then 2-3 days to get to level 20+ in WoW
You really have no idea what EQ2 is at the point you quit
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