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Vekril
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 Posted: 03/01/05 - 18:48 Post subject: European supremacy!!
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| Quote: | German jobless rate at new record
More than 5.2 million Germans were out of work in February, new figures show.
The figure of 5.216 million people, or 12.6% of the working-age population, is the highest jobless rate in Europe's biggest economy since the 1930s.
The news comes as the head of Germany's panel of government economic advisers predicted growth would again stagnate.
Speaking on German TV, Bert Ruerup said the panel's earlier forecast of 1.4% was too optimistic and warned growth would be just 1% in 2005.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4307303.stm
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God damn are they superior to us crappy Americans 
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/01/05 - 19:36 Post subject:
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They sure made some nice tanks, back in the day.
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Kaldon
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 13:50 Post subject:
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Shit, they still do. Leopard 2A6 is considered to be even better than the M1A2 Abrams.
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Frax
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 13:53 Post subject:
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| Kaldon wrote: | Shit, they still do. Leopard 2A6 is considered to be even better than the M1A2 Abrams.
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how many wars has the leopard won?
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Kaldon
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 14:04 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Kaldon wrote: | Shit, they still do. Leopard 2A6 is considered to be even better than the M1A2 Abrams.
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how many wars has the leopard won? |
None, but the Leo has consistently beaten the M1 in evaluation tests, it is considered to be more reliable and have better gunnery results. That's why countries around the world prefer to buy Leos instead of M1s. I believe the only countries in the world that chose to buy M1s are Egypt and Saudi Arabia and this choice probably had to do with politics.
Not that M1A2 is not an amazing tank but there are better out there =)
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scrotum
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 14:49 Post subject:
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Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 15:00 Post subject:
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| Kaldon wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Kaldon wrote: | Shit, they still do. Leopard 2A6 is considered to be even better than the M1A2 Abrams.
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how many wars has the leopard won? |
None, but the Leo has consistently beaten the M1 in evaluation tests, it is considered to be more reliable and have better gunnery results. That's why countries around the world prefer to buy Leos instead of M1s. I believe the only countries in the world that chose to buy M1s are Egypt and Saudi Arabia and this choice probably had to do with politics.
Not that M1A2 is not an amazing tank but there are better out there =) |
Tiger tanks were a totally german thing, for the most part. Except for maybe the T 34, the germans led the world in tank construction back in WW2 days.
The leopard is just a collection of technologies mostly discovered by you know who, the USA, the armor, the sighting, all American from what I have seen on documentaries. I don't find them as impressive, even though they are superior to the Tiger and maybe even the M1. I have seen shows, one recently that states the new upgraded M1 is superior to everything now, faster, tougher, more accurate, who knows.
The Tiger is just the Tiger.
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Frax
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 15:58 Post subject:
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The T-34 was actually a USA designed tank. With the 85mm gun (known as the T-34/85 ) it put some serious hurtin on german tanks when it encountered them.
The reason the USA didn't produce many heavy tanks was the sea transport issue. The germans never had to move entire armies across the pacific or atlantic to fight, they never had to move them farther than across the Med, so it was easier for them to build these incredible monster tanks that could take a serious pounding.
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cheese
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 16:09 Post subject:
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I assume you talking about the EFA-2000 Typhoon?
Which offers some very cool new ideas to aviation but to say it owns all other aircraft is a stretch at this point.
Also everything I've been reading says the F-22 Raptor is the best plane on the planet. But there is debate between the F-22 and SU-37 I don't see the EFA-2000 in there at all... The SU-37 another plane that is looked over, mainly cause the 2 countries who fly them.
But it also depends on what the plane is built for as well..
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Paco
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 16:37 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: | | Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't. |
Wrong, shitfucker. I am well aware of what's available out there, and I don't recall ever debating what's currently the top of each pile. I know the germans make damn fine tanks, as well as the brits, the israelis, and even the french...however, compared to easternblock countries, there's nothing out there an M1 couldn't handle, let alone any of the other NATO country's tanks for that matter. Are you that ignorant in your assumptions that any blanket statement made like that are going to have repercussions? Don't you think that there were American consultants working on the EuroFighter? 
The Raptor should prove to be an interesting match-up when it's done. Not that you'd care to acknowledge it because it's American.
Furthermore, the American systems are battle tested. The Germans don't particularly commit their hardware beyond their borders, now do they? Duh. I hadn't heard of any EuroFighter stories during the recent campaign against Iraq...if you have anything to offer, please do.
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Herbgotti
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 16:39 Post subject:
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Maybe they should move the drinking age from 16 to 21 ..
Those drunk bums !!
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Occulis
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 16:49 Post subject:
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man this is changin my life, u no???
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Maldek
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 16:56 Post subject:
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Cobra had way cooler planes than GI Joe
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Herbgotti
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 17:02 Post subject:
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| Maldek wrote: | | Cobra had way cooler planes than GI Joe |
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Frax
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 17:13 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: | | Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't. |
Stick to your socialism and working to support heroin addicts and "reformed" criminals, leave defending the world to us.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 17:44 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | | Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't. |
Stick to your socialism and working to support heroin addicts and "reformed" criminals, leave defending the world to us.
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Europeans are p*****s. I have more respect for the chinese and the russians
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Ciladar
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 17:53 Post subject:
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Jellybean Mr. Reagan?
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Frax
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 20:10 Post subject:
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If you didn't like Ronald Reagan you had to of liked Jellybeans. If you don't like either, you == communist.
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Qaldyin
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 20:25 Post subject:
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Well, I'm European. I guess I am what I eat...
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Frax
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 20:28 Post subject:
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| Qaldyin wrote: | | Well, I'm European. I guess I am what I eat... |
a d**k?
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Ciladar
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 22:28 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | If you didn't like Ronald Reagan you had to of liked Jellybeans. If you don't like either, you == communist. |
I was bored and was more or less farting around with the fact that he loved them 
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 22:45 Post subject:
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can't beat the best.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 23:14 Post subject:
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| scrotum wrote: | | Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't. |
Yeah it's special...it's better then the 30yr old designs we use now. Sorry man but the F-22 is the best fighter.
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kbarr
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 23:26 Post subject:
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Currently the Israelis have the best active fighter jets. We sell them ours and they upgrade the f*****s.
Yeah, they upgrade them....
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Yanbik
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Posted: 03/02/05 - 23:53 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | scrotum wrote: | | Kinda like the Eurofighter. It's better than all the fighter planes made anywhere. Will be hard to convince Paco/Frax/Kbarr though. They are the ones that are so ultra-nationalist, facts don't get in their head unless they want it to. This is something they don't. |
Stick to your socialism and working to support heroin addicts and "reformed" criminals, leave defending the world to us.
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/devil's advocate
Hi welfare
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Paco
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Posted: 03/03/05 - 01:02 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Well, I'm European. I guess I am what I eat... |
a d**k? |
Zing!
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Isriam
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Posted: 03/03/05 - 03:11 Post subject:
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israel upgrades everything we give them. we should start buying shit back from them.
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Luturb
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Posted: 03/03/05 - 03:24 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Qaldyin wrote: | | Well, I'm European. I guess I am what I eat... |
a d**k? |
Zing! |
pwned
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Someone
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Posted: 03/03/05 - 03:33 Post subject:
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I'm partial to the F-14 Tomcat myself. Can carry 6 pheonix missiles and has it's expiration date is pushed back constantly.
As for giving out our airforce capabilities to other countries... it doesn't reflect 100% well on us, but if we ever decide to end their capabilities, we just stop sending them replacement maintenance parts.
Still, much <3 for the Eagle, Falcon and Superhornet. Even the American made Mig29's make for good training target practice.
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Zwadrich
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Posted: 03/03/05 - 07:48 Post subject:
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this is another bash the weak eurotrash thread.. Isnt this getting old to you guys?
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