Ebonlore YAAY!!!

GruntingCod · RealPoor Master of Posts Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 6399

Here are meeting notes. We were forced by being kicked out of the guild, to come to this 2 minute meeting last week. I had to cancle shit I was doing and stuff. I am definantly leaving this pos guild. Sorry Horaxe, Doc, Buntz.

(02:00 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Welcome to the weekly IRC meeting
(02:00 PM) * Joins: [APP]the_oven (the_oven@adsl-17-172-212.bhm.bellsouth.net)
(02:00 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> 1st thing on the agenda today:
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(02:00 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> GUild Emblem Contest
(02:00 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> http://ebonlore.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1021
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(02:01 PM) * Parts: [MBR]Korom (noone@adsl-17-172-212.bhm.bellsouth.net)
(02:01 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> If you have skills go for it... a little birdie said this could help - http://ebonlore.org/test/ps8
(02:02 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Also Lesser has stepped up to the plate to provide professional avatars for the guild
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(02:02 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> PM him on the boards if you are in need
(02:02 PM) * @[IC]Corwyn cheers for [MBR]Lesser
(02:02 PM) * Parts: [APP]the_oven (the_oven@adsl-17-172-212.bhm.bellsouth.net)
(02:02 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> We are still working on the new sig design for Beta... We've got some very cool ideas brewing...
(02:02 PM) <@[IC]Draco> whew
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(02:03 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> I've been working on the html mockups for the DKP system this week (About half way done - http://ebonlore.org/dkp)
(02:04 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> The Proglue winner should see their work posted on the main site soon
(02:04 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> DKP Rules Draft #2 are posted for comments at http://ebonlore.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1032
(02:05 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> If you are still lacking a professional EL issued sig please PM Lesser, Quasar, and Sirus on the boards
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(02:06 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Please make sure you hit the profile button on the boards and update your character selections
(02:06 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Well be expanding it out with place holders soon for the classes
(02:07 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> I also would like to remind the guild that the public IRC channel is moderated
(02:07 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Please refrain from Politics, racism, religion, pizza toppings: easiest ways to start stupid fights
(02:07 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn>
(02:07 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Go Pepperoni!
(02:08 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> And picking on people for **** preferences... Excluding Trilsk
(02:08 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Thats all I have IC you have the floor
(02:08 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn> Please let me know if you guys have anything weird happen on the boards
(02:09 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn> Like stuff not saving or bugging out
(02:09 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn> Beslan and I are going to be doing the backend for the dkp system - so we'll be "here" but mostly hacking code
(02:09 PM) <@[IC]Draco> little message from me
(02:10 PM) <@[IC]Draco> go buy FFXI now or you will all be kicked out
(02:10 PM) <@[IC]Draco> :/
(02:10 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> lol
(02:10 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Draco must be lonely
(02:10 PM) <@[IC]Draco> nah
(02:10 PM) <@[IC]Draco> my monk is going places
(02:10 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Marissa is propbally in game now knowing her
(02:10 PM) <@[IC]Draco> =D
(02:11 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Addicts looking for a fix
(02:11 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn> Hey, I went to eq
(02:11 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> I've been working allot of OT lately myself
(02:11 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> so no FFXI for me
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Draco> heh
(02:12 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> The monorail opens on Jan 20 so I'll be RAWRing for EQ2 http://www.lvmonorail.com
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Draco> DAOC just doesn't do it for me anymore
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Draco> so i needed a new fix
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Draco> and that fix is FFXI
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Draco> =D
(02:12 PM) <@[IC]Corwyn> Don't worry everyone, beta/release will be here before you know it
(02:13 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Anyways IC anything else? Ninmh is sitting here waiting on me to show her how to hack a Tivo
(02:13 PM) <@[GL]Ewle> Ok I'll open the channel for questions :0-

Here is the week or 2 before.

Ebonlore Chat Log: October 26, 2003

* [IC]Beslan sets mode: +m
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* [IC]Corwyn sets mode: +o [IC]Vendra
[IC]Quasar Welcome to the weekly guild meeting
[IC]Quasar not alot to cover this week so we are going to make this brief and then open it up for DKP discussion at the end
[IC]Quasar First of all
[IC]Quasar 4 Applicants were approved this week
[IC]Quasar Draxxus
[IC]Quasar Balak
[IC]Quasar Kane
[IC]Quasar and
[IC]Quasar Milenko
* [IC]Corwyn cheers
[IC]Beslan Congrats
[IC]Quasar Glad to have you guys aboard
[IC]Quasar 2 Applicants were cut due to inactivity, Persephone and Vital
[IC]Quasar Next item is the Ebonlore Prolugue
[IC]Quasar Prologue
[IC]Quasar You guys stepped up to the plate and did a fantastic job
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* ChanServ sets mode: +o [GL]Ewle
[IC]Quasar We have come to a decision on these *drum roll*
[IC]Quasar The winners are 3 people
[GL]Ewle 12• 11Thanks for the @ 12•
[IC]Quasar We are going to combine Mandela's and Horaxe's into one story, taking the best of both
[IC]Quasar and we are using Zoriouz's in the new Flash Intro
[IC]Quasar Congratulation Guys!
[IC]Quasar that's all we have for now, the IC has a few points to make about DKP
[IC]Quasar and then we will open it up for discussion
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[IC]Corwyn We have been reviewing your responses to the dkp post
[IC]Corwyn Very good comments (as well as some frustrations voiced). We are always open for talking about issues and want this system as fair as possible.
[IC]Quasar http://ebonlore.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=959
[IC]Corwyn We are taking a lot of the input into account for the dkp system, which may evole over time (I expect this when we see what works in our ranks and what doesn't).
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[IC]Quasar Alts, Bots and Artisans are key/touchy subjects right now
[IC]Quasar and applicants
[IC]Beslan Very
[IC]Corwyn Yes
[IC]Quasar everything else we all seem to agree on
[IC]Corwyn Alts/bots/artisans = we will most likely set a system and flesh out how it works in beta and early release
[IC]Corwyn Applicants, don't feel left out too much! If you are here and working your butt off (more than just idling), we will notice
[IC]Quasar For Applicants, don't count on this, but the way I see it is this...
[IC]Quasar If you make it into Beta, most likely you will be some sort of full member come release
[IC]Quasar because we have gotten a taste of your play tim, style and attitude in game
[IC]Quasar for those of you who don't make it into Beta
[IC]Quasar keeping up with the rest of the guild (time) will be a key issue
[IC]Quasar aswell as your attitude in game
[IC]Corwyn Yes. We need to see people in action of some sort and go above and beyond outside of game (guild dedication).
[IC]Quasar I don't forsee it taking more than 2-4 weeks for you to make it in as a full member in all honesty considering the amount of time you have put forth pre-beta
[IC]Quasar I know I wouldn't want to wait another 2 months to get approved after 6-7 months of participating on forums and in the guild so I don't expect to treat you that way
[IC]Corwyn At the same time, remember, you submitted an application to the guild. That's all we know about you. Its up to you to show us what you're made of.
[IC]Quasar but talking and acting are 2 separate games and we MUST see in game performance before making a decision either way
* [IC]Quasar agrees
[IC]Quasar We will most likely not start raiding untill after 1-3 months anyways
[IC]Quasar depending on the level of difficulty involved in leveling
[IC]Quasar Before we open this up
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[IC]Quasar let me say this
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[IC]Quasar everything we are about to talk about in an Open DKP Discussion are the independant thoughts of the IC
[IC]Quasar and should not be considered the commandment of God by any means, it is what it is...a discussion
[IC]Quasar we have opinions just like you, with that said we will open it up to any questions you may have
[IC]Quasar PLEASE
* [IC]Beslan sets mode: -m
[IC]Quasar keep the topic to DKP for the time being
[IC]Beslan The DKP system is supposed to be a fair method of rewarding members who are active in the guild.
[MBR]Korom On DKP, will the group consensus be taken or will IC rule as they want to in the end?
[MBR]Scaredwolf Ok, I just have one Question, What in Raids will determine the dkp point value of each raid, or is that just up to the IC?
[MBR]Lesser I would like to congratulate Draxxus, Balak, Kane, and Milenko on making applicant! Good work guys! ^_^
[IC]Beslan Agreed Lesser! Congrsts again guys!
[MBR]Lesser heh sry, back to topic
[MBR]Scaredwolf i lied i have another question, also, will outstanding performance in Raids be rewarded?
[APP]Zoriouz congratz!
[IC]Quasar Korom if we didn't care what you had to say, it wouldn't be open for discussion
[APP]Zinah welcome Apps, and great work you 3 on the EL prologue... I really like the works )
[APP]Milenko thanks guys
[APP]Wound|Tainted Welcomes
[IC]Beslan Yes, Scaredwolf, but probably not in a DKP sense.
[IC]Quasar yes, grats again to everyone, Apps and Contest winners
[MBR]Korom Understood Q, but I have seen the will of the masses ignored before (ie Rebecca) and I don't want to see that happen again
[APP]Zoriouz I like the DKP that we have drafted up atm. It seems fair. One thing I like though is blind bids
[IC]Beslan Outstanding performance will lead to other rewards and increased responsibility in the guild.
[MBR]Scaredwolf ahh cool'
[APP]Manifest How long do we have to be at the raid to make it count as part of our 4 raids a week?
[IC]Quasar lol, there should be no Rebecca factor, trust me, everyone learns from the past
[MBR]Lesser responsibility = work =p
[APP][ManaDr] I still dont get why if your botting someone elses char with urs on, why would they get dkp too? They arent there they should be not accounted for.
[GL]Ewle 11•12[IC]Vendra11• .
[APP]Retrad I have a question to the post where DKP can be taken away from you if you leave, get booted and so forth from the DKP you have earned earlier that week. The question I have is what if you have to leave/booted but have not earned any DKP that week? Will DKP be subtracted from your total or will you just be in the negative and the DKP you earn from then on will be taken away til you're out of the whole?
[MBR]Korom I am ssoooooooo glad to you you say that Q...
[IC]Beslan Blind bids are good Zoriuz... but we kind of want to keep everything transparent.
[IC]Beslan Zoriouz, I mean.
[IC]Quasar I am in agreement with you ManaDR
[MBR]Korom I agree with Manadr as well
[IC]Quasar my personal feeling is if you play a bard but we need you to play a chanter for the Raid, your bard gets the DKP
[APP]Zoriouz Blind bids keeps someone from making you use up all your dkp and also makes you use what you think that item is worth instead of just over bidding and keeping the dkp economy spiked
[APP][ManaDr] Atleast some do
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore I agree with ManaDr as well.
[MBR]Korom the person who plays earns DKP, not the toon they are playing
[IC]Corwyn Ok, that makes sense but
[APP]Zinah but.. if you let your roon up for lets say an IC to play on a raid, should there not be any kind of reward? I dont think you should get full DKP tho, it isnt fair
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Half?
[IC]Corwyn From an administrative perspective, how to we track who is really behind the screen?
[APP]Retrad i dont like the blind bidding...people IE me who don't know the worth could over bid or under bid and would gladly bid more if they knew someone had out bid them
[APP][ManaDr] How they act ingame
[APP]Zinah that could be hard corwyn
[APP]Milenko no
[MBR]Korom But you are not there Zinah... you are not playing... your toon will get exp and maybe some rot loot... that is enough. If you are not there and your toon is then its not fair that you get DKP when others there are actually there.
[APP]Zoriouz you need to get to know in game items better then
[APP]Milenko people that arent there shouldnt get DKP
[APP]Zoriouz I mean really
[APP]Zinah I agree korom on the DKP
[APP]Zoriouz you should know if that item will "RELLY" help your stats or not
[APP]Milenko that means the valuable classes IE clerics and chanters will get dkp while hybrids will have a disadvantage
[APP]Zoriouz really
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore I see no problem logging someone in for rotting loot...
* [APP]Zoriouz agrees
[APP][ManaDr] yea i dont see a problem with that
[IC]Corwyn You choose to play another person's character
[APP]Wound|Tainted Will we have a "private" forum for those who get into beta, not even other members who are in Ebonlore will be able to read/post there ?
[MBR]Scaredwolf DKP will change drastically once the game is actually out people, remeber this, it is all speculation, we don't know how items are really going to be valued in the gamer
[MBR]Korom Corwyn, its about playstyle... You will not know who is there and who isn't for sure... but I think after some time you will be able to tell... make the penalty for getting caught abusing the system so bad noone will try it... like 0 DKP or reduction to app status
[IC]Beslan BOTS will only be allowed on raids when there are open spots anyway... no one will be turned away from a raid so a bot can leech.
[APP][ManaDr] but I see a big problem with someone else playing another char and that character gettin the dkp they shouldnt be getting for not being there.
[MBR]Lesser well the problem with alot of this botting and alts stuff is that the IC is not omnipotent, they really can't tell
[IC]Corwyn [mbr]korom: More like booted from the guild
[APP]Tahh you would need a private forum most likely due to the NDA right?
[APP]Zoriouz you cant patrol that Mana
[MBR]Korom Sounds good to em Cor
[MBR]Korom em = me
[APP]Zoriouz there is no way in heck you can
[APP][ManaDr] Lesser, if you are playing someone elses char why wouldnt ut ell them ur on it so that ur char could get the dkp instead?
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Yeah Tahh
[APP]Wound|Tainted They will have a Beta forum sony side, im talking about an Ebonlore beta secret site ?
[APP]Wound|Tainted err
[APP]Wound|Tainted nm
[APP]Kalamar lol?
[APP]Wound|Tainted NDA, nm that
[APP]Sobe .
[MBR]Korom thought this was still focused on DKP for the time being?
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore We should respect SOE and it's NDA.
[APP]Zinah I thought I knew a guy after playing with him for 3 years.. turned out he was played by 2 people, hence his insane play hours. My point: Its really not possible to tell who is behind the screen
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Aye, it was Korom'
[APP]Retrad nah
[APP]Retrad lol
[IC]Quasar [APP]Wound|Tainted most likely we will have either a section of the site for Members and Applicants who are in Beta OR just a private section for everyone
[MBR]Lesser ya SOE is not Wolfpack... I've had that explaned to me already =p back to DKP tho
[APP]Milenko yeah that is true Zinah, but if you lie to us then we really shouldnt have you in the guild anyway
[MBR]Scaredwolf Hey Q, look at the message I sent you in IRC, hehe
[APP][ManaDr] If u dont know they are the same person then so be it zinah.. Theres nothin we could do to change it
[APP]Kalamar we should at least know more about classes so that those that do not get into beta can draw conclusions
[APP]Zoriouz Well anyways, just my opinion on the DKP blind bid
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Well, I will be the only one playing my toon...but will give the login info to a select few in case I can't make a raid and they need me to unlock chests.
[IC]Quasar We aren't going to loose our beta over giving some noob that visits our site NDA breaking information
[APP]Retrad peace guys time for work..lol they called me in and she apologized for being mean to me=)
[IC]Quasar Sony knows who we are, they hit our site weekly
[MBR]Lesser well... I would =p but I'm not allowed
[MBR]Korom understood Zinah... but if that guy/gal gets caught and booted from guild for it... I think they would think to act differantly... ie... Ewle in SB was played by Ewle and her husband... it was not announced who was playign... but we pretty much just understood it was "them" that was GL not just ewle herself
[APP]Kalamar noone said to put it on our site - why not in private forum or something?
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* [APP][ManaDr] coughs at khorne, im a scout too
[APP]Wound|Wtf Humm.. good.. disconnected again
[APP]Kalamar lol
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[IC]Corwyn 4,1FOR THE LOVE OF GOD -- STOP PASTING THE PRIV CHANNEL KEY IN THE PUB CHANNEL
[IC]Corwyn thx
* [MBR]Lesser agrees
[APP]Kalamar who is?
[APP]Wound|Wtf huh?
[APP]Kalamar i havn't seen a paste/copy yet
[APP]Milenko private bids are bad, it spawns suspicion. Did they really bid those points? id unno
[IC]Corwyn every week at least 1 or two people do
[APP][ManaDr] someone did earlier
[APP]Kalamar hmm
[MBR]Lesser el4life --[/b] the password --[/b] Don't post in main channel
[APP][ManaDr] Private bids are lame
[APP]Wound|Wtf OH lol
[MBR]Korom agree again manadr
[APP]Wound|Wtf yea, thats not ood hah
[APP]Milenko everything should be in the open, every member should know wtf is going on
[APP]Wound|Wtf good*
[APP]Zinah Im not saying its wrong, maybe you and your GF plays your toon for fun or a chance to do something together (as we all know EQ can be hard on your social life)
[APP]Milenko i hate privacy, makes people jealous or suspicious
[IC]Quasar we will not be hiding anything from anyone
[APP]*Chubby Muffins* lmao zin
[APP][ManaDr] If you want to private bid it, u better be wanting a ass whooping
[IC]Quasar this isn't a used car auction
[APP][ManaDr]
[IC]Corwyn lol
[APP][ManaDr] lol
[APP][ManaDr] I knew guilds that did it
[IC]Quasar we know each other and I know membership
[APP][ManaDr] its unfair and pathetic
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Usually guilds will announce who the winner of the loot that was bidded on, with the total DKP for that bid.
[MBR]Korom If my GF played my toon for fun as a change or pace or to do something we can both enjoy then I would let the IC know about it and I would never allow her to go on a raid
[APP]Zoriouz Yes thats how its done
[IC]Quasar they will have the DKP standings on our site just waiting for someone to bid who doesn't have the DKP for it
[APP][ManaDr] The bidding goes in guild chat.. thats how it goes
[APP]Kalamar sounds fair
[IC]Quasar it's all open and honest
[APP]Kalamar fine w/ me
[APP]Zoriouz you dont HIDE anything, you bid what you think its work to you then if you win the IC will announce who won and how much was spent on it
[APP][ManaDr] Thats the way to do it
[MBR]Scaredwolf Quasar look at my private message, its important to me hehe
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Just don't announce the peeps until there is a winner.
[APP]Zinah I really only have 1 concern about DKP. What if a class (or player) obviously needs the item more than the guy with a million DKP stacked
[MBR]Korom to bad
[APP]Zoriouz hes screwed lol
[APP]Theo exactly
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Unfortunate.
[APP][ManaDr] to **** bad lol
[MBR]Lesser yeah =p
[APP]Wound|Wtf wai
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore But there will be more then one of those items.
[APP]Wound|Wtf Isnt it for class/race first
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[APP]Wound|Wtf then its for the guild
[APP][ManaDr] ?
[APP]Zinah Ive seen a lot of DKP farming and selling (I realise that is grounds for guildremoval but the harm would already be done)
[MBR]Korom IC determines who race/class/level can bid
[APP]Milenko hehe zoriouz, i dont think anyone would do this or whatever, buuut what if someone sends the IC member a msg and they are friends, and they say hey, i will bid 10 over the highest bid
[APP][ManaDr] WOund
[APP]Zinah ya thats good Korom
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Aye, what Korom said
[APP][ManaDr] since items ahve a certain lvl to wear it good, then it will be going by that yea
[APP]Banedor|UT2k3 4Question: 7Could we do an example DKP Bid, I never did DKP before and I'm rather confused with the bidding system
[APP]Wound|Wtf Good
[APP]Zoriouz cant do that
[APP]Zoriouz all bid are final
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore And God help the IC if they make a bad class/race/level call.
[MBR]Korom correct Khorne...
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore lol
[MBR]Lesser lol yeah they'll get bitched at
[APP]Theo God doesn't exist
[APP][ManaDr] yea
[MBR]Lesser heh later theo later
[APP][ManaDr] they sure will
* [MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore smacks Theo
[APP]Zoriouz heres the thing now and think about this......
[MBR]Korom I will smack Sirus down so fast he will think he was Christopher Raldukin solo meeting an EL hunting party...
* [APP]Kalamar smacks theo also
[APP]Milenko OH
[IC]Quasar if something is ALL ALL and obviously a Melee item, we will announce the classes that can bid
* [APP]Theo dodges
[APP]Milenko people who cant directly use the gear at the moment shouldnt be able to use
[APP]Zoriouz lets say you want an item bad and someone else has the same dkp or more than you. But, he/she wants to be an ass. So they keep bumping up the bid and then make you spend you dkp up then back out!! how is that fair?
* [MBR]Korom agrees with Theo
[APP]Milenko if they have better shouldnt be able to bid
[APP][ManaDr] I remember in eq when only velious was out and my bro was in ToV and a plate bp dropped and they said only cleric and warrior could roll and he was a shadowknight so he **** bitched at themt ill they allowed sk's and the rest of the plate wearers to roll
[MBR]Korom its not Zor... but you can do it tothem as well.
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore You have to trust your friends and guild mates Zoriouz.
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore No one should know who's bidding...only announce the winner.
[APP]Zoriouz Aye we all should but can you count on that to happen?
[MBR]Korom it wil even out in the end and peeps prob will not do this as they will get butt **** by everyone else
[APP][ManaDr] what khorne?
[IC]Corwyn [APP]Zoriouz : it depends on the type of market we are doing
[APP][ManaDr] thast wrong
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore And peeps should only be bidding on the items that HAVE to have...not to add to their mounting sword collection.
[APP]Zoriouz just making a valid point is all lol im done
[IC]Corwyn type of auction
[APP][ManaDr] U start bidding at like 10
[APP][ManaDr] everyone says in GUILD CHAT 15 , 20 etc..
[APP]Tahh if someone has more dkp than you, then they've put more time into the guild than you, and should be able to bid on that item if they can use it regardless
[IC]Quasar we will have all of your gear right in front of us
[MBR]Lesser I don't think anyone whose an ass will last very long in this guild at all
[APP]Zinah good point
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore AYE
[IC]Quasar having some sort of Magelo profile will be mandatory
[MBR]Korom question: Why is IC going to determine a minimum bid... why not make the first bid minimum?
[APP]Milenko ManaDR that was a reasonable thing in the beginning of Velious, dress out your warriors so you were able to do mobs more easily
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[IC]Quasar plus we know what you have from past bids
[APP]Zoriouz I know but you never know, it happens a lot even in the tightest guilds
[APP]Zinah in my guild it was warrios, clerics, paladins...all plate classes before SKs, and I was a sk =)
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Quasar, why not have those member websites that have been set up...make some sort of template...then everyone can put their gear on it.
[IC]Quasar if someone is pushing you up who has a better sword then that, they will be called on it privately at first
[APP]Zinah and by the time it was our turn, we stopped farminf HoT =p
[IC]Corwyn Yep. Everything bid on and won is going to be known (database).
[APP]Milenko thats dumb, it should only be warriors
[APP][ManaDr] Khorne i cant do it..
[APP][ManaDr] my magelo is fuxed
[APP]Zoriouz if its done that way then thats a good thing Q that would help
[APP][ManaDr] its in ascii text
[IC]Quasar for those of you who are applicants and never seen the IC in action
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Let's not use Magelo...let's do our own template.
[MBR]Korom Zinah: thats the beauty of this open bid and no favoritism... it drives the entire guild to keep raiding those same spots till everyone has what they need
[IC]Quasar we know our *doggy poo* and are on top of everything 150%
[IC]Quasar ask current members
[MBR]Scaredwolf oh they know
[MBR]Scaredwolf they know
[APP]Zinah if we had used DKP I wouldnt have that issue
[IC]Quasar we just want a system that everyone thinks is fair so we don't have to spend all this time while in game
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore IC, is there a way for peeps to get raid help to acquire a certain item that want/need...especially for artisans?
[APP]Milenko yeah i also dont think some guy is going to keep bidding up, what if you pull out instead of him? he is stillt aking a risk
[MBR]Korom Except Sirus... he is gimp who stands around a lot... (since he is not here he gets picked on)
[IC]Corwyn At any point, we can do an equipment check -- anyone passing/selling outside the guild might be facing the rest of the guild in pvp (murder/death/kill/booted/etc) at the ic's discretion. We don't like our guildies being screwed over.
[IC]Beslan Yes Milenko, we already plan to do special raids to help people with quests and uber-hard items.
[APP]Zoriouz By the way thanks for choosing my audio proclaimation for the flash intro, I am truely honored
[IC]Quasar
[APP]Zinah hehe it sent chills down my spine Z
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore When I was in a DKP system...I only bidded 1 for any item I needed, thus if others needed it more then me, I let them...just the way I am.
[APP]Zoriouz heh thanks
[IC]Quasar too short for a prologue, but great for a Flash Intro
[APP]Zoriouz aye thats what I made it for really
[IC]Corwyn Q, hehe and that was with 400+
* [IC]Corwyn shudders
[IC]Quasar I know huh
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Hey, answer my question. =P
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore When I was in a DKP system...I only bidded 1 for any item I needed, thus if others needed it more then me, I let them...just the way I am.
[IC]Quasar anything else? questions we may have missed?
[APP]Zoriouz im gonna be waiting like a kid on christmas morning to see that flash lol
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore IC, is there a way for peeps to get raid help to acquire a certain item that want/need...especially for artisans?
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Bah!
[MBR]Korom he answered it gimp
[IC]Beslan Yes Khorne.
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore Thanks.
[IC]Quasar anything else? questions we may have missed?
[IC]Beslan we already plan to do special raids to help people with quests and uber-hard items.
[APP]Zoriouz newp im a happy camper
[IC]Corwyn We want everyone to have their epics/gear/etc
[MBR]Korom if Sirus is left standing for hours on end in the guild hall and we PK him for doing so (remember Sirus the Statue in EL City in SB) will we be booted from the guild?
[MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore If they say there are epics in EQ2...I will personally go to CA and kick the bejeesus out of the development team.
[APP]Zoriouz lets hope epics are better in EQ2
[MBR]Xzaroth where is Draco?
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[APP]Sobe will the guild own a boat?
[APP]Milenko i think there are epics
* [MBR]Khorne_Ebonlore groans
[MBR]Korom I hope there are no epics

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