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sinrakin
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 7044
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 12:50 Post subject: Do you think the contents of Realpoor is in the NSA/CIA logs
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Do you think that the stuff you write here ends up being scanned by a computer for keywords or patterns and possibly saved in a file or sent to some flunky for analysis? So that like, if you're constantly ranting about how you hate the US etc, and think everyone should die, maybe you'd end up on a no-fly list or something. I think about that every now and then - I've kind of assumed there was at least a chance of it. But realistically, what are the odds? I'm sort of a moderate conspiracy theorist, but sort of realistic too - I'm sure they'd do it if they could, but I'm not sure if it's feasible.
Especially since the board requires registration to read - it's trivial to make a fake ID, but seems like it might take human intervention. Then again, with vast amounts of money you could probably make automated software that would could make an account on most common systems without human intervention, then just poll it periodically like any other search engine. The intelligence agencies have huge resources - I wonder what's really beyond their capabilities?
Keeping a database of people who post on message boards might not be so hard to do after all if you had say, a trillion dollars (I made that up; I don't know their budget: it's probably not public anyway). You could probably match IP addresses to messages from monitoring traffic at selected core routers (not sure if they could do that without everyone finding out), and correlate msg board IDs with personal info.
So what do you think the odds are that what you post here is being scanned by the government? Realistically, I think I'd put the odds around 40%. Any other opinions?
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compusmack
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Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 6354
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 12:57 Post subject:
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A leeching script for a customized board might be a bit more work than they care to put in. They may very well have some kind of text ripper for phpBB boards, but it's unlikely they are gathering every piece of text on every board on the net.
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Ikkan
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 12:58 Post subject:
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They're coming
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Paco
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 12:59 Post subject:
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what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?
I hope so!
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Ikkan
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Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 3086
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:00 Post subject:
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PACO THE CIA SPY!
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Frostkiss
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Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 2018
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:00 Post subject:
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A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago.
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sinrakin
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 7044
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:01 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?
I hope so!  |
LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.
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khrath
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:04 Post subject:
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i gave the nsa access to the database, they don't need a leachscript
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Frax
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8489
Location: Fuck yoiu fucking fuckers
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:12 Post subject:
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| Frostkiss wrote: | | A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago. |
they 'made you' write a letter like that? Thats f****d up
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Paco
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:16 Post subject:
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| sinrakin wrote: | | Paco wrote: | what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?
I hope so!  |
LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.
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now i have to make you disapear
yay me!
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Frostkiss
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:17 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Frostkiss wrote: | | A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago. |
they 'made you' write a letter like that? Thats f****d up | Catholic school =/
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Ikkan
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Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 3086
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:24 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | sinrakin wrote: | | Paco wrote: | what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?
I hope so!  |
LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.
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now i have to make you disapear
yay me! |
ohnoez
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Occulis
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:35 Post subject:
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RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data.
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kemble
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 1909
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:47 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | | RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data. |
exactly. They don't need to spider webpages when they can just capture packets and scan for keywords. Thats how they monitor e-mail as well.
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sinrakin
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 7044
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:53 Post subject:
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| kemble wrote: | | Occulis wrote: | | RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data. |
exactly. They don't need to spider webpages when they can just capture packets and scan for keywords. Thats how they monitor e-mail as well. |
True. I assume they probably do do that to some extent. But all packets even for a single session don't necessarily follow the same path, so it's a little hard to be sure of getting an entire stream. Although if you monitor enough points, you can probably match them up.
I haven't seen any probability estimates besides mine though - who thinks that what you post here might be being read by the government? I'm just curious if I'm more or less suspicious than others. Not that I'm worried or anything: I for one welcome our national security overlords
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Frax
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 13:55 Post subject:
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I'd put the odds closer to 90% that this is at least being context scanned by a computer somewhere for illicit activities.
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Occulis
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 14:03 Post subject:
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what a s****y thread
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// stdafx.cpp : source file that includes just the standard includes
// Parse.pch will be the pre-compiled header
// stdafx.obj will contain the pre-compiled type information
#include "stdafx.h"
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Banzai
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 16:10 Post subject:
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I remember people freaking out when someone said "I'm going to kill the president" even with the registration.
The fear of big brother is better than it's limitations.
Oh shit, I might have just set off a red flag...
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 16:14 Post subject:
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Frax
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 16:22 Post subject:
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Skull and Bones Society!
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 17:12 Post subject:
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| Banzai wrote: | | I'm going to kill the president. |
Not a smart thing to say, Banzai.
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Tura
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 17:33 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | So that like, if you're constantly ranting about how you hate the US etc, and think everyone should die, maybe you'd end up on a no-fly list or something. |
Lets hope so.
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Paco
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 12939
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 17:57 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Skull and Bones Society! |
were you referring to kbarr's pic?
that's the illuminati not that faggy thing they made a movie out of
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Frax
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 18:13 Post subject:
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| Paco wrote: | | Frax wrote: | | Skull and Bones Society! |
were you referring to kbarr's pic?
that's the illuminati not that faggy thing they made a movie out of  |
no i'm referring to the 'real' skull and bones society, people think its some kind of Illuminati type organisation.
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kemble
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 18:42 Post subject:
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no i'm referring to the 'real' skull and bones society, people think its some kind of Illuminati type organisation.
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lirl
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Maelstrom
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 18:55 Post subject:
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Dont' they just watch for key words?
I don't know like anal , gay etc...
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Zapper
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 21:06 Post subject:
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Skull & Bones is a secret society @ Yale. They don't really do all that much but give scholarships & have dinners in the secret Hall & shit. Although they do have an endowment of about 5 million
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kireol
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 21:21 Post subject:
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Ciladar
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 21:28 Post subject:
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f**k the Dawson
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kireol
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Posted: 04/14/04 - 21:29 Post subject:
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you notice Mr 2fast2furious is in that? =)
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