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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 12:50    Post subject: Do you think the contents of Realpoor is in the NSA/CIA logs Reply with quote

Do you think that the stuff you write here ends up being scanned by a computer for keywords or patterns and possibly saved in a file or sent to some flunky for analysis? So that like, if you're constantly ranting about how you hate the US etc, and think everyone should die, maybe you'd end up on a no-fly list or something. I think about that every now and then - I've kind of assumed there was at least a chance of it. But realistically, what are the odds? I'm sort of a moderate conspiracy theorist, but sort of realistic too - I'm sure they'd do it if they could, but I'm not sure if it's feasible.

Especially since the board requires registration to read - it's trivial to make a fake ID, but seems like it might take human intervention. Then again, with vast amounts of money you could probably make automated software that would could make an account on most common systems without human intervention, then just poll it periodically like any other search engine. The intelligence agencies have huge resources - I wonder what's really beyond their capabilities?

Keeping a database of people who post on message boards might not be so hard to do after all if you had say, a trillion dollars (I made that up; I don't know their budget: it's probably not public anyway). You could probably match IP addresses to messages from monitoring traffic at selected core routers (not sure if they could do that without everyone finding out), and correlate msg board IDs with personal info.

So what do you think the odds are that what you post here is being scanned by the government? Realistically, I think I'd put the odds around 40%. Any other opinions?
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

A leeching script for a customized board might be a bit more work than they care to put in. They may very well have some kind of text ripper for phpBB boards, but it's unlikely they are gathering every piece of text on every board on the net.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 12:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're coming Sad
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 12:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?

I hope so! Wink
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

PACO THE CIA SPY!
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:
what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?

I hope so! Wink

LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.

Laughing
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

i gave the nsa access to the database, they don't need a leachscript
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frostkiss wrote:
A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago.


they 'made you' write a letter like that? Thats f****d up
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinrakin wrote:
Paco wrote:
what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?

I hope so! Wink

LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.

Laughing


now i have to make you disapear

yay me!
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
Frostkiss wrote:
A bit off topic, but when I was in high school our religion teacher made us write some letters to certain governments to "free political prisoners". It was some Amnesty International petition thing. I ended up writing a letter to China. When my dad had to be there for business, and applied for his visa, they asked him questions about it. It took em quite awhile to get his visa. And this is almost 10 years ago.


they 'made you' write a letter like that? Thats f****d up
Catholic school =/
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:
sinrakin wrote:
Paco wrote:
what makes you think they have to run anything when there's someone here right now, just capturing the contents as they read it?

I hope so! Wink

LOL I MADE U BLOW UR COVER DIRTY GOVERMENT SPY! HAHAHA!!.!.

Laughing


now i have to make you disapear

yay me!


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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Occulis wrote:
RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data.


exactly. They don't need to spider webpages when they can just capture packets and scan for keywords. Thats how they monitor e-mail as well.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

kemble wrote:
Occulis wrote:
RealPoor web pages aren't encrypted or anything. Everytime someone loads a thread there are 2-40 computers seeing the traffic in plain text. Some of these computers might even use satellite links to transfer data.


exactly. They don't need to spider webpages when they can just capture packets and scan for keywords. Thats how they monitor e-mail as well.

True. I assume they probably do do that to some extent. But all packets even for a single session don't necessarily follow the same path, so it's a little hard to be sure of getting an entire stream. Although if you monitor enough points, you can probably match them up.

I haven't seen any probability estimates besides mine though - who thinks that what you post here might be being read by the government? I'm just curious if I'm more or less suspicious than others. Not that I'm worried or anything: I for one welcome our national security overlords Smile
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 13:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd put the odds closer to 90% that this is at least being context scanned by a computer somewhere for illicit activities.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 14:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a s****y thread

Code:

// stdafx.cpp : source file that includes just the standard includes
//   Parse.pch will be the pre-compiled header
//   stdafx.obj will contain the pre-compiled type information

#include "stdafx.h"
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 16:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember people freaking out when someone said "I'm going to kill the president" even with the registration.

The fear of big brother is better than it's limitations.

Oh shit, I might have just set off a red flag...
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 16:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skull and Bones Society!
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 17:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banzai wrote:
I'm going to kill the president.


Not a smart thing to say, Banzai.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 17:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So that like, if you're constantly ranting about how you hate the US etc, and think everyone should die, maybe you'd end up on a no-fly list or something.


Lets hope so.
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 17:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:
Skull and Bones Society!


were you referring to kbarr's pic?

that's the illuminati not that faggy thing they made a movie out of Wink
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 18:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paco wrote:
Frax wrote:
Skull and Bones Society!


were you referring to kbarr's pic?

that's the illuminati not that faggy thing they made a movie out of Wink


no i'm referring to the 'real' skull and bones society, people think its some kind of Illuminati type organisation.


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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frax wrote:

no i'm referring to the 'real' skull and bones society, people think its some kind of Illuminati type organisation.




lirl Laughing
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 18:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont' they just watch for key words?

I don't know like anal , gay etc... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 21:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skull & Bones is a secret society @ Yale. They don't really do all that much but give scholarships & have dinners in the secret Hall & shit. Although they do have an endowment of about 5 million
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 21:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

kireol wrote:


f**k the Dawson
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PostPosted: 04/14/04 - 21:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

you notice Mr 2fast2furious is in that? =)
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