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Frax
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 Posted: 08/29/04 - 03:31 Post subject: Democratic Senator to deliver key speech... at RNC
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From the NY Post:
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/29543.htm
| Quote: | KEYNOTER ZELL SET TO RIP KERRY
By STEFAN C. FRIEDMAN
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August 29, 2004 -- John Kerry's "miserable record" over the course of his 19-year Senate career will be a focus of Sen. Zell Miller's highly anticipated speech at the Republican National Convention, the renegade Georgia Democrat told The Post.
The 72-year-old Miller, who next Wednesday will become the first member of an opposing party to deliver the keynote address at a national convention, plans to hit Kerry over his political career — one that Miller claims has been spent pushing and voting for far-left issues.
"John Kerry's record in the Senate is a miserable one — it is a disgraceful one," Miller charged. "His record is far from the mainstream on nearly every issue. He is where 15 or 20 percent of people are."
Miller said many Americans are still in the dark about Kerry's voting patterns — primarily because the candidate himself has avoided discussing it.
"Watching the Democratic convention, the bio of John Kerry seemed to be 'I was born. I served in Vietnam. I am running for president,' " Miller said.
"They overlooked 20 years in the Senate. That's where you'll see the real John Kerry."
Miller called Kerry a flip-flopper, adding: "I want a president who is decisive, like a Harry Truman or a Ronald Reagan — and I think that's the kind of president George Bush is."
As for the details of the speech, Miller said he didn't want to give anything away.
Just 12 years ago, Miller, then governor of Georgia, stood in the same arena and gave the same keynote address — but at the Democratic convention, and in support of Bill Clinton's candidacy.
Now Miller nearly always steps across the aisle to vote with President Bush. |
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 11:35 Post subject:
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Cralen
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 13:50 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | |
And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat, burning down villages of those who he was not sure if they were allied with North Viet and the killing of thier cows and chickens.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 16:48 Post subject:
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| Cralen wrote: | | And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat, burning down villages of those who he was not sure if they were allied with North Viet and the killing of thier cows and chickens. |
yes, he said he 'personally' did all these things.
just like bush PERSONALLY did this....
------OR------
perhaps -'MAN'- has proven himself a cruel beast over time ( the actions of some ) and crimes are commited.
you must be too young to remember the coverage of vietnam
he (kerry) was not lieing.
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Confused
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 16:53 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Cralen wrote: | | And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat, burning down villages of those who he was not sure if they were allied with North Viet and the killing of thier cows and chickens. |
yes, he said he 'personally' did all these things.
just like bush PERSONALLY did this....
------OR------
perhaps -'MAN'- has proven himself a cruel beast over time ( the actions of some ) and crimes are commited.
you must be too young to remember the coverage of vietnam
he (kerry) was not lieing. |
Moron. John Kerry's own words were that he violated the geneva convention and murdered people by his own hand. He burned down their homes. You're trying to compare a leash that some soldier put around a terrorists neck without knowledge of the president and who is now going to serve prison time. You're an idiot...an epic idiot.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 17:03 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | John Kerry's own words were that he violated the geneva convention and murdered people by his own hand. He burned down their homes. |
amazing, if you are right.
please back up your claim.
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 17:18 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | John Kerry's own words were that he violated the geneva convention and murdered people by his own hand. He burned down their homes. |
amazing, if you are right.
please back up your claim. |
| John Kerry wrote: | | However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. |
June 30, 1971
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040503214623700
There's a video on that site. I watched the whole thing.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 17:56 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | John Kerry wrote: | | However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. |
June 30, 1971 |
odd you left out the rest of his statment there....
| John Kerry--CONTINUES TO SAY wrote: | | ... And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty. |
which is to say....NOTHING like | Cralen wrote: | | And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat....Cows and Chickens. |
OMG NOT THE CHICKENS!!
I admire honesty in leaders and balls
to say that took both
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Confused
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 18:00 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | odd you left out the rest of his statment there....
| John Kerry--CONTINUES TO SAY wrote: | | ... And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty. |
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Uh...what does him admitting that it's in violation of the Nuremburg principles have to do with anything?
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Cralen
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 19:41 Post subject:
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Kerry, just like the rest of the military was given a course on the Geneva Convention before being sent over seas. I is a lie for him to say
that he didn't know it was unlawful. Even if it wasn't against the law, would you want him doing those things(that he did admit to before Congress and before the Nation on TV)?
If you want to vote for Kerry, then good for you, practice your right as an American but don't compare Kerry's lack of morals to what happened in the jail at Iraq to being Bush's fault. Because unlike Kerry, Bush didn't do anything wrong. Again, unlike Kerry, those responsible will be punished, they're already in the beginning of the military trails.
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 20:19 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | John Kerry wrote: | | However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. |
June 30, 1971 |
odd you left out the rest of his statment there....
| John Kerry--CONTINUES TO SAY wrote: | | ... And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty. |
which is to say....NOTHING like | Cralen wrote: | | And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat....Cows and Chickens. |
OMG NOT THE CHICKENS!!
I admire honesty in leaders and balls
to say that took both |
Liberal scumbag.
You are a fat, lazy, liberal scumbag.
Show us the picture where you dress up like a fool and grin like an ass at the camera.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 20:58 Post subject:
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| Cralen wrote: | | Kerry, just like the rest of the military was given a course on the Geneva Convention before being sent over seas. |
this is a false statement
lieing liars and the lies they tell
there is no diff
the s***s have / will be shit today, in the past and in thr future
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 21:11 Post subject:
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| Kbarr wrote: | | Show us the picture where you dress up like a fool and grin like an ass at the camera. |
you remind me of the cymbal clapper monkey, you shit and bang bang bang
p.s. I do not have that picture, but would like it, find a copy for me. Its a good old photo.
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Confused
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 22:43 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Cralen wrote: | | Kerry, just like the rest of the military was given a course on the Geneva Convention before being sent over seas. |
this is a false statement
lieing liars and the lies they tell
there is no diff
the s***s have / will be shit today, in the past and in thr future |
Not to mention he was a political science grad from Yale. Your preposterous claim that he is without guilt for being ignorant of the law depends on him being a total fuckup in school. You think they wouldn't teach the nuremburg principles to a political science major at Yale? Dumbfuck. Two points for your ignorant ass:
1. Ignorance is no excuse. A murderer would not be let off for not knowing that murder is illegal.
2. Even if you were to bend the law so completely upside down as to suggest that ignorance is an excuse, then you're admitting that Kerry is a complete and absolute moron. I don't mean like an epic moron like yourself. I mean a moron to which no other moron could be compared. A black hole of ignorance, if you will.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 23:47 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Your preposterous claim that he is without guilt for being ignorant of the law |
I never made that claim, stop your lies.
more lieing liars and the lies they tell
p.s.
This;
| John Kerry wrote: | | However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground.... And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty. |
Does -NOT- equal to
This;
| Confused wrote: | | John Kerry's own words were that he ...murdered people by his own hand. |
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Posted: 08/29/04 - 23:55 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | Your preposterous claim that he is without guilt for being ignorant of the law |
I never made that claim, stop your lies.
more lieing liars and the lies they tell |
Really? Then you need to seriously work on your communication skills. Why don't you explain? I provided Kerry admitting to war crimes, and your dispute was a quote saying he was unaware of the law. Now clear up your claim, d*****t. You already support Saddam, now you support Kerry. I guess that makes you a supporter of war criminals. What do you think of Hitler?
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Wily
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 00:00 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Really? Then you need to seriously work on your communication skills. Why don't you explain? I provided Kerry admitting to war crimes, and your dispute was a quote saying he was unaware of the law. Now clear up your claim, d*****t. You already support Saddam, now you support Kerry. I guess that makes you a supporter of war criminals. What do you think of Hitler? |
more lies
I communicate clearly, you lie and spew. You lied and said he 'admitted to murdering' which he did not.
gee, your saying I support saddam sure makes its so.
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 00:58 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | I communicate clearly, you lie and spew. You lied and said he 'admitted to murdering' which he did not. |
What do you think a "free fire zone" is, moron?
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Wily
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:11 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | No goat is off limits to my **** passions |
free fire zone =
free strike zone
free strike zone
area where everyone was deemed hostile and a legitimate target by U.S. forces
and your saying?
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Cralen
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:16 Post subject:
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Wily, I didn't lie. You're taught the rules of war under the Geneva Convention before being shipped out.
Your next excuse is?
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Wily
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:20 Post subject:
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| Cralen wrote: | Wily, I didn't lie. You're taught the rules of war under the Geneva Convention before being shipped out.
Your next excuse is? |
b******t, you lie
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:30 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | No goat is off limits to my **** passions |
free fire zone =
free strike zone
free strike zone
area where everyone was deemed hostile and a legitimate target by U.S. forces
and your saying? |
Including innocent civilians. That means Kerry nowingly killed innocent civilians. That's murder according to the Geneva conventions. You just want to give this guy a free ride, don't you? Not even war crimes deter you.
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Cralen
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:31 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Cralen wrote: | Wily, I didn't lie. You're taught the rules of war under the Geneva Convention before being shipped out.
Your next excuse is? |
b******t, you lie |
You're right I do.
And seeing as how I am a liar, I do believe that I will go and register to vote tomorrow. I'll sign up as a Dem.
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Wily
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:44 Post subject:
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| Confused wrote: | | Ima rEEpublickan |
meaning, he participated, knowing only that the target area was deemed hostile by his superiours and acted accordingly, trusting his chain of command, imo.
meow
Reagan "KNOWINGLY MURDERS WOMEN AND CHILDREN"
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 01:51 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | I don't care if Kerry is a murderer/war criminal. I voted for Clinton and he's a rapist!
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I bet that if he went to church you'd hate him, though!
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 18:27 Post subject: -==-
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Worst attempt to demonize Reagan evar.
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 18:45 Post subject: Re: -==-
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| Vengar_OO wrote: | | Worst attempt to demonize Reagan evar. |
was not attempt, on my part, to demonize Reagan. your thinking is too simple, besides, he did that well enough on his own, it was, however, an illustration about how in time, over time, people often do things, via ignorance or through mis-information thatn they would not have done otherwise. Do you honestly think Reagan would have endorsed cigarettes then, knowing today what is known about them?
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 18:45 Post subject:
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| Wily wrote: | | Confused wrote: | | John Kerry wrote: | | However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. |
June 30, 1971 |
odd you left out the rest of his statment there....
| John Kerry--CONTINUES TO SAY wrote: | | ... And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty. |
which is to say....NOTHING like | Cralen wrote: | | And yet Wily will vote for John Kerry who has admitted to killing women, children, people not involved in combat....Cows and Chickens. |
OMG NOT THE CHICKENS!!
I admire honesty in leaders and balls
to say that took both |
Ahh so Kerry, who was an officer, somehow forgot to read that little piece of shit geneva convention card they are given? Plays it off as some innocent b*****d and he never knew it was wrong to kill innocent people? Honesty? Gimme a break...
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 18:49 Post subject: Re: -==-
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| Wily wrote: | | Vengar_OO wrote: | | Worst attempt to demonize Reagan evar. |
was not attempt, on my part, to demonize Reagan. your thinking is too simple, besides, he did that well enough on his own, it was, however, an illustration about how in time, over time, people often do things, via ignorance or through mis-information thatn they would not have done otherwise. Do you honestly think Reagan would have endorsed cigarettes then, knowing today what is known about them?
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That in no way compares to what Kerry said he did.
(insert this pic I found on the internet here)
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Posted: 08/30/04 - 21:20 Post subject: Re: -==-
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| Wily wrote: | | Vengar_OO wrote: | | Worst attempt to demonize Reagan evar. |
was not attempt, on my part, to demonize Reagan. your thinking is too simple, besides, he did that well enough on his own, it was, however, an illustration about how in time, over time, people often do things, via ignorance or through mis-information thatn they would not have done otherwise. Do you honestly think Reagan would have endorsed cigarettes then, knowing today what is known about them?
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Fat, lazy, liberal scumbag.
Bush is going to win:)
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