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gotissues68
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Goraz
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 Posted: 01/25/05 - 16:42 Post subject:
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awesome
half a MB / sec download is BANGING
ill put my fileplanet account to good use now
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 16:45 Post subject:
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For 10 bucks more you can get the gold upgrade and apparently its 6 meg by 768 =) I'm gonna do that once I see how the speeds are with this new ugprade.
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Paco
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 16:46 Post subject:
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heh, almost 4.5mbps, is more d**k to rub in dsl faces
yay!
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myndwarrp
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 16:55 Post subject:
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LOL and I'm about to change from 5 meg cable to 3 meg DSL hahahahahah
I have toooooo many neighbors on cable now so I'm lucky to get a full meg at bight/weekend. Thats the only downfall to cable....
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kireol
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:09 Post subject:
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Wish they'd come up off the bandwidth now and just make us all happy.
this giving out an extra few KBPS every year is annoying
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Nictathan
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:11 Post subject:
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mmmmm 4 meg connection, happy in the pants
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:21 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | Wish they'd come up off the bandwidth now and just make us all happy.
this giving out an extra few KBPS every year is annoying |
A meg at a time isn't bad.. besides in order to offer some speed increases they may need to upgrade infrastructure.. it takes time..
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Paco
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:23 Post subject:
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Actually..when they're done with the "internet 2", they won't have to upgrade much.
Then it just gets silly regarding speed, and NOBODY will complain. If they do, they will be promptly beaten down with a bat, rusty nails optional.
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kireol
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:35 Post subject:
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| gotissues68 wrote: | | kireol wrote: | Wish they'd come up off the bandwidth now and just make us all happy.
this giving out an extra few KBPS every year is annoying |
A meg at a time isn't bad.. besides in order to offer some speed increases they may need to upgrade infrastructure.. it takes time.. |
ya. because they need to upgrade things for upgrading upload bandwith? *cough*
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wellspoken
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:47 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | | gotissues68 wrote: | | kireol wrote: | Wish they'd come up off the bandwidth now and just make us all happy.
this giving out an extra few KBPS every year is annoying |
A meg at a time isn't bad.. besides in order to offer some speed increases they may need to upgrade infrastructure.. it takes time.. |
ya. because they need to upgrade things for upgrading upload bandwith? *cough* |
yes i believe they have to. i work for mci, we can only upgrade a connection to 1.5/768.
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kireol
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 17:50 Post subject:
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I find it really hard to believe that comcasts connection is asynch.
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Nandaben
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 18:12 Post subject:
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Good Bye One Link Speakeasy 6.0/768 $115.95
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r00typooh
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:13 Post subject:
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they had speed issues when tehy upgraded to 3Mb... now you're going to have the option of doubling your speed? it's not liek they have unlimited bandwidth at their disposal...
upgrading speeds requires getting larger pipes, more data transfer may require the upgradeing of internal infrastrure if the current setup cannot handle the increased demand.
i'm sure there are many many expenses involved in this upgraded rollout
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kireol
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:17 Post subject:
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nobody knows the difference between upload and download. this makes me cry
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r00typooh
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:18 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | | nobody knows the difference between upload and download. this makes me cry |
you mean there's a different :p
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kireol
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:35 Post subject:
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You see, maybe I should have been more clear. I made the assumption that people would think that a few KBps was ~ 1-10, not the 100KBps the DL is getting.
we are getting NO upgrade in regular service upload speed. It's averagining like 2KBps each year upgrade to UL speed.
and if anyone here thinks that that is overloading their systems by upgrading that 2KBps avg each year, while they upgrade their DL speeds about 70KBps/year, then you need this:
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:44 Post subject:
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I realize the differences in upload/download I do work for a networking company kthx  and it just could be asynch versus synch and and it very well could require new infrastructure to offer the incremental upload speeds we're seeing. You have to remember the technology this is running over too, the bandwidth spectrum for upload is quite a bit smaller then the download spectrum on straight copper/cable so there's only so far you can go anyways, especially if you're running additional services over the same wire. People will stop b******g when there's fiber to the curb 
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just occured to me, could be due to egress bandwidth charges too. ISP's have to pay for bandwidth just like users do but on a much larger scale. They may have Cogent feed's coming inbound (which does not charge a usage fee) and for best routing practices use Verio outbound (which does charge for bandwidth)...
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Eindar
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 20:44 Post subject:
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All I know is that it's very rare that I cap out my 150kbps on my DSL. It costs me 27 dollars per month. I don't have to deal with the c*********g bastards at Comcast in Indy. I don't have to fight with the suburbanite teenagers for bandwidth.
For me, the only positive about cable is that it seems to have better UL speeds.
But whatever, enjoy the upgrade 
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r00typooh
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 21:20 Post subject:
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i cap out my 3Mb DSL all the time- unfrotunatly comcast isn't in my area so the best i can get is another 3Mb connection from my PoS cable company- which i plan to do shortly 
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/25/05 - 21:22 Post subject:
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| r00tus wrote: | | i cap out my 3Mb DSL all the time- unfrotunatly comcast isn't in my area so the best i can get is another 3Mb connection from my PoS cable company- which i plan to do shortly |
If you're on a directly connected CO, you should roll w/ Covad @ 6 down 768 up r00ty
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kireol
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 01:21 Post subject:
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| gotissues68 wrote: | I realize the differences in upload/download I do work for a networking company kthx and it just could be asynch versus synch and and it very well could require new infrastructure to offer the incremental upload speeds we're seeing. You have to remember the technology this is running over too, the bandwidth spectrum for upload is quite a bit smaller then the download spectrum on straight copper/cable so there's only so far you can go anyways, especially if you're running additional services over the same wire. People will stop b******g when there's fiber to the curb
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just occured to me, could be due to egress bandwidth charges too. ISP's have to pay for bandwidth just like users do but on a much larger scale. They may have Cogent feed's coming inbound (which does not charge a usage fee) and for best routing practices use Verio outbound (which does charge for bandwidth)... |
I personally believe it's "we dont want people running web servers and sharing warez easily so we cap it". But if not, then the part you editted in would be my guess.
But, you can today, right now, with the old caps, still download at almost 10 Megbit already. 400KB is the cap. however if you grab something that's cached at comcast like the free version of AVG Antivirus you can get 10 Megbit speeds. that tells volumes to me.
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Rennol
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 01:23 Post subject:
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The network at my school sucks balls, I went from Comcast and the pleasures of low ping, high bandwidth to like 1200ms pings in WOW and crappy ass download rates. GAH. I'd pay $60 just to get it right now. =(
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 14:31 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | | gotissues68 wrote: | I realize the differences in upload/download I do work for a networking company kthx and it just could be asynch versus synch and and it very well could require new infrastructure to offer the incremental upload speeds we're seeing. You have to remember the technology this is running over too, the bandwidth spectrum for upload is quite a bit smaller then the download spectrum on straight copper/cable so there's only so far you can go anyways, especially if you're running additional services over the same wire. People will stop b******g when there's fiber to the curb
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just occured to me, could be due to egress bandwidth charges too. ISP's have to pay for bandwidth just like users do but on a much larger scale. They may have Cogent feed's coming inbound (which does not charge a usage fee) and for best routing practices use Verio outbound (which does charge for bandwidth)... |
I personally believe it's "we dont want people running web servers and sharing warez easily so we cap it". But if not, then the part you editted in would be my guess.
But, you can today, right now, with the old caps, still download at almost 10 Megbit already. 400KB is the cap. however if you grab something that's cached at comcast like the free version of AVG Antivirus you can get 10 Megbit speeds. that tells volumes to me. |
Well yes you're going to get 10 megabit speeds inside their network ... it can be capped at the head end and at the router level as well. Where I work we cap at the dslam and also at our agg and border routers. We synced my buddy up @ 8 meg down on his parents DSL connection but he was getting like 384k since I forgot to remove the cap at the agg router heh.
[another g*****n edit]
I'll have to grab a copy of the DOCSIS standard and see what its capable of, if you read it then you'll know what the gear that comcast is running is capable of. The current ADSL DMT spec allows for up to 8 meg down period. ADSL2 is in the works though and has been for awhile.. they've fixed a bunch of shit in the spec too so when it comes out it'll probably be able to compete with cable =)
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Kenbin
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 15:06 Post subject:
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Having T3 owns.
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 15:22 Post subject:
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| Mogling wrote: | http://www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/Fios/packagePrice.asp
Some people in this area can get it, can't wait till i can. |
jesus christ.... that pwns.. I need to move into verizon territory
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Yellow Journalist
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Posted: 01/26/05 - 22:28 Post subject:
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I work for Comcast . They are always upgrading their infrastructure to negate what r00tus just said. We have customers that actually exceed and go over the download and upload speeds. It just depends on where you live. Rural or not Rural.
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gotissues68
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Posted: 01/27/05 - 01:29 Post subject:
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Ok so I have to ask them YJ can you actually "uncap" your cable modem? Or is that some giant myth?
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r00typooh
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Posted: 01/27/05 - 01:40 Post subject:
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what areas is the fios service available in? anyone know? i read about it a long time ago on /. but never really looked into it since i'm not in a verizon area 
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