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Docter
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 Posted: 03/27/05 - 21:30 Post subject: Cold Fusion...about to become a reality
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1444046,00.html
Long read, but well worth it.
One day your appliances might run themselves.
| Quote: | Chubb is equally excited about rumours of a breakthrough at a Las Vegas company called Innovative Energy Solutions. In November, it issued a press release heralding "clean energy technology" to "generate six times (12MW) more electricity than it consumes (2MW)". Rod Foster of the company says the technology is based on cold fusion, but could offer no more information about how it works.
"You're getting out enough heat that you can turn the supply off so you've got what looks like some kind of perpetual motion machine," Chubb says.
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Overon
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Barnacle Bob
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Posted: 03/27/05 - 23:59 Post subject:
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ATM Banana
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 00:57 Post subject:
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that heats my balls.
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Occulis
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 00:57 Post subject:
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They come out with reports like this once every 9 or 12 months. Then, strangely enough, no one hears anything else from the research team.
There was a kit you could license for $5k in 1998 which took input of 1 watt of energy and outputted 10 watts of energy, forever. A university (I want to say Stanford or something in CA but I have no idea) made it.
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Finigan
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 04:02 Post subject:
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Yeah this shit always pops up, until I actually can use it in my home I don't put much faith into it.
Plus if it was for real im pretty sure it would be much bigger news and we wouldn't have to read about it on a british news site.
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Maldek
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 09:58 Post subject:
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| Finigan wrote: | Yeah this shit always pops up, until I actually can use it in my home I don't put much faith into it.
Plus if it was for real im pretty sure it would be much bigger news and we wouldn't have to read about it on a british news site. |
the American energy industry wholly fears the development of such technology, they'd do everything in their power to discount such a discovery.
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kireol
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 10:10 Post subject:
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i imagine much like opec and hydrogen powered vehicles
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Galdaria
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 11:10 Post subject:
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I SOOOooooo love him. =/ Too bad he got fat.
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Eindar
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 19:01 Post subject:
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Also, this could be something that produces more energy than it uses, but it costs 3 million to build one large enough to power one home, and your energy bill to use it for a month would be $3000. Scientists are big on discoveries, and much smaller on practicality. It comes from spending someone else's money to do experiments for years and years.
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Finigan
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 19:30 Post subject:
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| Maldek wrote: |
the American energy industry wholly fears the development of such technology, they'd do everything in their power to discount such a discovery. |
I think its really f*****g sad for humanity as a whole that people would actively try to stop something that would benefit mankind on such a large scale.
Kinda like how you always hear shit like drug companies have a vaccine for aids, but they make more money off selling aids drugs, etc.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 19:35 Post subject:
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| Finigan wrote: | | Maldek wrote: |
the American energy industry wholly fears the development of such technology, they'd do everything in their power to discount such a discovery. |
I think its really f*****g sad for humanity as a whole that people would actively try to stop something that would benefit mankind on such a large scale.
Kinda like how you always hear shit like drug companies have a vaccine for aids, but they make more money off selling aids drugs, etc. |
The US gov made AIDs and gave it to black people too..didn't you know?
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Finigan
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 19:37 Post subject:
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| Scrabler wrote: | | Finigan wrote: | | Maldek wrote: |
the American energy industry wholly fears the development of such technology, they'd do everything in their power to discount such a discovery. |
I think its really f*****g sad for humanity as a whole that people would actively try to stop something that would benefit mankind on such a large scale.
Kinda like how you always hear shit like drug companies have a vaccine for aids, but they make more money off selling aids drugs, etc. |
The US gov made AIDs and gave it to black people too..didn't you know? |
The FBI killed JFK and Martin Luther King Jr.
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Scrabler
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 19:54 Post subject:
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| Finigan wrote: | | Scrabler wrote: | | Finigan wrote: | | Maldek wrote: |
the American energy industry wholly fears the development of such technology, they'd do everything in their power to discount such a discovery. |
I think its really f*****g sad for humanity as a whole that people would actively try to stop something that would benefit mankind on such a large scale.
Kinda like how you always hear shit like drug companies have a vaccine for aids, but they make more money off selling aids drugs, etc. |
The US gov made AIDs and gave it to black people too..didn't you know? |
The FBI killed JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. |
OMG they got MLK??? Now I'll have to add another page to my "I hate the government" notebook.
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Confused
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Posted: 03/28/05 - 20:07 Post subject:
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"Cold Fusion" is an oxymoron.
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Tiluvas
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Trebel
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 01:39 Post subject:
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| Eindar wrote: | | Also, this could be something that produces more energy than it uses, but it costs 3 million to build one large enough to power one home, and your energy bill to use it for a month would be $3000. Scientists are big on discoveries, and much smaller on practicality. It comes from spending someone else's money to do experiments for years and years. |
That is very bad misinformation. It may cost 3 billion to build, but the fact of cold fusion is that, according to theory, the force required to push the atoms together would be approximately 1/12 of the amount of energy released when they did infact go together. So the fact of the matter is that if this were possible, not only would it decrease energy costs signifigantly in the long run, it would also help the environment a shit load. Less fossil fuels = good.
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Silvermouse
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 03:35 Post subject:
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With cold fusion, someday our towns can be like Camineet on Palma. *sigh
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atarom
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 03:36 Post subject:
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they totally stole those trees from final fantasy
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Eindar
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 17:55 Post subject:
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| Trebel wrote: | | Eindar wrote: | | Also, this could be something that produces more energy than it uses, but it costs 3 million to build one large enough to power one home, and your energy bill to use it for a month would be $3000. Scientists are big on discoveries, and much smaller on practicality. It comes from spending someone else's money to do experiments for years and years. |
That is very bad misinformation. It may cost 3 billion to build, but the fact of cold fusion is that, according to theory, the force required to push the atoms together would be approximately 1/12 of the amount of energy released when they did infact go together. So the fact of the matter is that if this were possible, not only would it decrease energy costs signifigantly in the long run, it would also help the environment a shit load. Less fossil fuels = good. |
I'm not claiming this for a fact. It's just a very common ocurrence for scientists to get excited about some groundbreaking discovery that isn't practically feasible. Assuming You're right, we should be seeing cold fusion replacing coal burning power plants in the next 5 years, right? RIGHT?
Exactly.
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Occulis
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 18:07 Post subject:
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I'm pretty sure if I had a box I could get free electricity from, I could find a way to solder a wire to my PC's UPS.
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kireol
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 18:39 Post subject:
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nanotubes are real. and just about as cool as cold fusion. supposedly one of, if not, the strongest material ever.
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Frax
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Posted: 03/29/05 - 19:19 Post subject:
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Fuckwits,
Regards,
Eduin
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