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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 17:54    Post subject: Classes Reply with quote

Trying to decide between sk vs ranger. If anyone has played either in beta let me know. Also was wondering if there are any good sites out there outlining the shadowknight class. Thanks.
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 17:55    Post subject: Re: Classes Reply with quote

Clevinger wrote:
Trying to decide between sk vs ranger. If anyone has played either in beta let me know. Also was wondering if there are any good sites out there outlining the shadowknight class. Thanks.


Haven't made it to ranger yet but thus far I really like my scout. He's alot of fun.
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 18:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want to be a ranger you have to be aligned to qeynos

no ranger trainers in freeport - good only

just an FYI Smile
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 18:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obmar wrote:
if you want to be a ranger you have to be aligned to qeynos

no ranger trainers in freeport - good only

just an FYI Smile


Betrayal!

Actually Ob I'm going to go Troll Mage of some sort or a Gnome shaman for release over in FP Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and Ob, check your PM's b***h!
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 18:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

betrayal works for races

i other words you can be an Ogre paladin if you betray freeport

but you can't live in freeport and be a paladin

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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

there were like 2 billion 'crusaders' in Freeport the other day - if people play them as much once the game goes live, I predict getting groups is going to suck for some people.

Not that a cleric, a druid and 4 crusaders wasn't a good group - we sure owned and DPS was pretty decent.
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 19:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

We played last night 1 sorc, 1 clr, 1 dru, 1 pred, 1 rogue and did very well with the rogue tanking.
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PostPosted: 11/02/04 - 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crusaders (Paladins/Shadowknights) are every bit as good as Warriors (Guardians/Berserkers) in tanking, the differences are minute.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 01:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for info. So Ob, if I wanted to be an evil ranger, I could betray Qeynos, but I wouldn't be able to live in Freeport? Also, are there any good sites that have a spell list/ability chart for shadowknights. I know sony released a list that showed 3 lines of spells + unholy steed, but was looking for more.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 01:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be playing a Ratonga Ranger. I am going to betray freeport. If you betray a city you live in the other city. Such as myself, I am going to betray freeport and will be kos there but will be perfectly fine living and doing everything else in Qeynos. This is the only way i can play a rat and be a ranger.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 01:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will either be a DE Enchanter Or an Ogre warrior type thing to be determined. I really liked Freeport during the beta and commonlands/nek forest etc is way more appealing to me than anything Q had to offer.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 01:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the ratonga's. But i really like being a ranger. I played beta enough to get up to lvl 15 in beta and loved the class completely. Now to convince my wife she wants to play a rat!
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 01:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zab wrote:
I really like the ratonga's. But i really like being a ranger. I played beta enough to get up to lvl 15 in beta and loved the class completely. Now to convince my wife she wants to play a rat!


then you've never played as a ranger, you were a preditor, which you could be just as well in freeport, though you'd turn into an assassin instead...

The betrayal quest must be iniated before chsing your final profesion, and you have to compleat it once starting before being able to choose said final prof.

So classes that are good/evil must be played in the good/evil city you get them from. Betrayl is only a way to play a good/evil race in the oposing city.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 02:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, i've never played a ranger. I have played a predator and a scout. I like both. I have played a ranger at some point in every MMORPG i have ever played. I enjoy them the most.

I do not want to be an assassin, therefore i will be a ranger.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 02:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clevinger wrote:
Thanks for info. So Ob, if I wanted to be an evil ranger, I could betray Qeynos, but I wouldn't be able to live in Freeport? Also, are there any good sites that have a spell list/ability chart for shadowknights. I know sony released a list that showed 3 lines of spells + unholy steed, but was looking for more.


technically you cannot be an evil ranger

you could be an inherent evil race playing a ranger in qeynos (but only because you betrayed your racial origins) because you are now "good"

there are no ranger trainers in freeport at all - so you just cannot live there and be a ranger period.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 03:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need to visit a trainer to get skills, you get them as you lvl. To upgrade them you need items crafted through tradeskills and dropped on mobs.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 03:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obmar wrote:
Clevinger wrote:
Thanks for info. So Ob, if I wanted to be an evil ranger, I could betray Qeynos, but I wouldn't be able to live in Freeport? Also, are there any good sites that have a spell list/ability chart for shadowknights. I know sony released a list that showed 3 lines of spells + unholy steed, but was looking for more.


technically you cannot be an evil ranger

you could be an inherent evil race playing a ranger in qeynos (but only because you betrayed your racial origins) because you are now "good"

there are no ranger trainers in freeport at all - so you just cannot live there and be a ranger period.


So how detrimental is not having a trainer?
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 06:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regan wrote:
You don't need to visit a trainer to get skills, you get them as you lvl. To upgrade them you need items crafted through tradeskills and dropped on mobs.


When he says Ranger Trainer he means the guy that gives the class to you
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 12:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

You get the class by doing a quest, the guy who gives preditors their quest in FP tgives you a quest that turns you into an assassin, the guy in qeynos gives you one that turns you into a ranger. you have to betray before doing the quest. Once you betray you can't go back into your old city.
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 12:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you have to betray before you choose your final class?
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PostPosted: 11/03/04 - 14:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silvermouse wrote:
Don't you have to betray before you choose your final class?


Yeah
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PostPosted: 11/06/04 - 16:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad I'm spending most of my time in freeport, just to avoid the inevitable glut of Dark Elf Rangers named Drizzzttt
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PostPosted: 11/06/04 - 17:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

nm i misread
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