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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 09/07/04 - 22:33 Post subject: Classes of The Win
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Rogue
Warrior
Warlock
Priest
Haven't seen the others in-depth too much yet. Holy cow, the melee is awesome in this game.
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 5599
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 00:11 Post subject:
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I like Paladins, but I'm sure Warriors a much more fun at this point. I like tradeskills--who'da thought!!!
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Finigan
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3817
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 00:21 Post subject:
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I really like hunters..
pet class + chainmail at 40 + dual wield + rockin' ranged dmg + speed buff = coolness
I like the rogues too.. but being stuck wearing leather is kinda weak. But their combo system is awesome.
I played a warrior the furthest (to lvl 24 now) and they are pretty dang good but will pretty much end up being the same as an EQ warrior, on the instanced dungeon I did my group made me go defensive (warriors have two stances, offensive or defensive) and just spam taunt over and over, it felt like EQ and made my soul cry..
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Gethy
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Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 5599
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 01:11 Post subject:
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Cheer up, atleast that means Warriors will have utility. Not that I've researched it, but if they've got two settings--defense and offense--therein lies that plus that EQ doesn't have for the Warrior class.
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kireol
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Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 01:52 Post subject:
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all classes will do their base thing in groups. it's what can u do outside of that norm that makes wow different. warriors can taunt for groups, and can also do good dmg solo. a great way to balance this was the way wow did it
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Gethy
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 5599
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 02:18 Post subject:
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| kireol wrote: | | all classes will do their base thing in groups. it's what can u do outside of that norm that makes wow different. warriors can taunt for groups, and can also do good dmg solo. a great way to balance this was the way wow did it |
I fully agree. So we've waited for an EQ killer, and now we must say, "Hello, WoW."
All fanbois have convinced themselves of such, but ex-EQers (let's f*****g hope to god) realize the very same--Blizzard knows what's up. EQ2 disgusts me; MMO's do not need state of the art graphics (and this is not saying EQ2 is of such a calibre) they need practicality. As well as a genuine thought process. Blizzard are doing a fine job. Period.
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Zab
Sir Postalot

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 1222
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 07:42 Post subject:
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Personally WoW doesnt have it for me. It was fun, but a week was enough. Couldnt play this game long term.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
Location: Moral Relativity Central
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 08:45 Post subject:
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Paladin was too slow for my taste. That was something I disliked about EQ paladins, too. Waiting 30 seconds to see you hit for 4 kind of sucks.
I love the sound effects in WoW. It is really immersive.
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Finigan
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3817
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 09:22 Post subject:
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The enviroments are friggin awesome too, each place feels unique and different, I didn't think I would like the whole art style at first but it really grew on me.
I gotta say im dissapointed with the gnomes though, I planned to play a gnome rogue but they were way too "cute" for me.
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Alerik
Sir Postalot

Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 1375
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 10:58 Post subject:
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And the eq one's werent? What the f**k is the difference.
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Catranizi
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 910
Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 13:25 Post subject:
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Druids are fairly interesting. Shapeshifting is pretty much like playing a second melee character.
However, the bear form is overpowered, or at least seems to be. I can kill solo non stop mobs 13-16 at level 15 without resting for about one hour...
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Selenar
Can't Stop Posting

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 584
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 16:26 Post subject:
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| Catranizi wrote: | Druids are fairly interesting. Shapeshifting is pretty much like playing a second melee character.
However, the bear form is overpowered, or at least seems to be. I can kill solo non stop mobs 13-16 at level 15 without resting for about one hour... |
So you don't find yourself having trouble compelting high yellow/orange quests? If not I'll have to yell at Ashwynd about his damn bellyaching!
-Sel
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 09/08/04 - 17:58 Post subject:
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I imagine Ashwynd is just a little confused. After 3 years of casting regen and thorns on level 13 shadowknights in Unrest, he probably has a very warped view on any class called druid.
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Omol
Luke Warm

Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 304
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 01:23 Post subject:
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Shamans for the win. Not alot they cant do.
| Quote: | | However, the bear form is overpowered, or at least seems to be. I can kill solo non stop mobs 13-16 at level 15 without resting for about one hour... |
I can do that with my shaman too.
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Catranizi
Toomuchtimeonhands

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 910
Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 07:58 Post subject:
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| Selenar wrote: | | Catranizi wrote: | Druids are fairly interesting. Shapeshifting is pretty much like playing a second melee character.
However, the bear form is overpowered, or at least seems to be. I can kill solo non stop mobs 13-16 at level 15 without resting for about one hour... |
So you don't find yourself having trouble compelting high yellow/orange quests? If not I'll have to yell at Ashwynd about his damn bellyaching!
-Sel |
Actually, make that mobs up to level 20 at level 15. 2 levels and up I have to shapeshift back and forth to cast a heal between fights. Red and orange quests are usually fairly easy, unless they involve dungeon crawling. The only mob that can cause problems (or that I won't be able to kill) is the occasional high level healer that still hits for 40+.
Anyway, while reading the boards, there are only 3 main classes it seems at high level (50+). Mage, Priest, Warrior. The rest is deadwood, at least according to beta testers.
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Frax
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 8489
Location: Fuck yoiu fucking fuckers
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 08:38 Post subject:
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Thats b******t. I've done Sunken Temple with a druid and shaman healing.
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Catranizi
Toomuchtimeonhands

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Posted: 09/09/04 - 09:46 Post subject:
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| Frax wrote: | | Thats b******t. I've done Sunken Temple with a druid and shaman healing. |
The posts I was reading were about BRD, where apparently a single priest is barely enough, 2 are recommended.
Thing is, it's most probably the fact that priests, mages and warriors have their talents implemented (as well as rogues) while the others don't, which creates an imbalance.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 10:13 Post subject:
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what the f**k am i replying to
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wibblewobble
Luke Warm

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 331
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 10:51 Post subject:
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i'v definatly enjoyed my mage thus far but i'm getting to where its kinda hard to solo unless i get a single pull w/ few resists
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 11:08 Post subject:
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| wibblewobble wrote: | i'v definatly enjoyed my mage thus far but i'm getting to where its kinda hard to solo unless i get a single pull w/ few resists  |
I've noticed that trend with mage. Last night I soloed something a few levels higher by chaining the ice snares and running off to firebolt. Felt like DAoC all over again.
Probably won't be going mage if I only get a single account.
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ZaritharSavageclaw
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Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 13:09 Post subject:
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The weird thing about it for me is that I have enjoyed every class I have tried so far... even the int casters (mage and warlock) which I couldn't stand to play in EQ. I am amazed at the versatility of warriors in the game... a big step forward from EQ melee classes.
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Occulis
RealPoor Jedi

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 13293
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 13:32 Post subject:
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| ZaritharSavageclaw wrote: | | The weird thing about it for me is that I have enjoyed every class I have tried so far... even the int casters (mage and warlock) which I couldn't stand to play in EQ. I am amazed at the versatility of warriors in the game... a big step forward from EQ melee classes. |
WoW makes melee awesome. I wish int casters had as many combos. I feel kind of linear playing a mage or warlock now.
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ashwynd
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1686
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 18:06 Post subject:
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| Occulis wrote: | I imagine Ashwynd is just a little confused. After 3 years of casting regen and thorns on level 13 shadowknights in Unrest, he probably has a very warped view on any class called druid.  |
Either that or mine is about to hit level 52 and I know a great deal about the class having been in this beta for a good while now Bear form overpowered? It's the only bone Blizzard has thrown the class thus far, I'm waiting until we are given talents to decide if I want to play a druid in retail. If you think bear form is overpowered, by all means go play a different class and tell me they don't have an "overpowering" solo ability, or quite possibly more than one (priest anyone?)
As far as druids go in PvP, mages are the only class I can almost constantly make my b***h, unless they specialize in fire talents where their stun > me and they rape me. With hunters, I'm about 75% successful and rogues it all depends on if I strike first with root, if they pop out of the shadows I'm f****d 100%. At 50+ the instances are far too demanding for our mana efficiency as far as heals are concerned, I'm OOM halfway through the fight and I have more or as much mana as the 2-3 55 horde druids in PvP. So there's my class synopsis for now, feel free to ask questions as you level Cat
As for temple Frax, try doing the new and improved Hakkar encounter with a druid and shaman, guaranteed your group will get your ass served to you on a silver platter unless the druid and shaman bring quite a few mana pots :p
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Finigan
RealPoor Guru

Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 3817
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 19:10 Post subject:
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Druids are quite versitile though, I did the Wailing Caverns instance with me (warrior), 3 druids, and a rogue.
One druid was on heals, one was in bear form as dps/secondary tank, and the other one played secondary healer/buffer
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kireol
RealPoor Master of Posts

Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 9517
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 20:20 Post subject:
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druids owned before they nerfed bear form and took away ummm axes was it?
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ashwynd
RealPoor Sensei

Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 1686
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Posted: 09/09/04 - 21:07 Post subject:
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ya axes. They just better give us shields so we don't have to rely on staves so much. There's only 1 decent orb off hand I've seen and that's a level 55 item from BRD :/ They need to add stats on all the instanced shit from temple and BRD too imo. Risk vs. reward in this game is pretty s****y thus far, but content is $$.
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artera
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Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 20
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Posted: 09/15/04 - 12:06 Post subject:
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I think there is too much of a reliance on the warrior in instanced groups. Hunters seem to be able to hold ok agro, as a shaman I can't hold agro on anything. I'll probably end up going warrior or shaman for release.
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GruntingCod
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Posted: 09/15/04 - 14:57 Post subject:
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Rogues and Druids are my favorite so far. Although playing every class, I like them all in their own way. Druids and Rogues are my favorite, where next would be a Shaman or Hunter, then mage, and then the last 3 would be Warrior, Priest and Paladin... Warrior being last.
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Nugjar Lives!
Luke Warm

Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 224
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Posted: 09/16/04 - 14:07 Post subject:
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| GruntingCod wrote: | | Rogues and Druids are my favorite so far. Although playing every class, I like them all in their own way. Druids and Rogues are my favorite, where next would be a Shaman or Hunter, then mage, and then the last 3 would be Warrior, Priest and Paladin... Warrior being last. |
No warlock in your list, do you care for them least, as you didn't even mention em? Reason I ask is that I played all the classes except druid and priest, and ended up enjoying the warlock the most. Maybe it was because I enjoyed the dwarf/gnome newbie lands the most. The tauren areea was too wide open and a bit boring for me, and the troll starting area had very few quests, and was rather bland... Undead rogue was also lots of fun for me, and I liked the hunter, but I don't think I'll go Tauren again, because of the boring factor in that are...
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Bricktop!
Luke Warm

Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 120
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Posted: 09/16/04 - 14:47 Post subject:
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52 druid, 36 priest, and a 30 war. Druid is a fun class, shadow priest rock, and Protection/arms war is cool. Druids need talents and a little more balance added to them and they are going to be a great class.
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